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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (2.00 / 2)

That is the problem you guys have.  You want to alienate Hillary's supporters right up until the day she concedes, at which point you expect them to hop on board automatically.  It's an insulting approach and it's no wonder so many of her supporters are disgusted.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 06:46:12 PM EST
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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (none / 0)

But look at it from an Obama supporter perspective, in our viewpoint, Clinton has fired at will at Obama.  She wants to deeply wound him to get popular votes and then win with superdelegates.  This infuriates Obama supporters, but aren't we expected to suck it up and deal with it if she gets the nomination?  Yes we are.  


by nrioq on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 07:01:00 PM EST
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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (none / 0)

And we will. I mean, John McCain? Are we totally nuts?
by Pat Flatley on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 07:02:03 PM EST
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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (none / 0)

Let's hope not.


Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.
by fogiv on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:14:11 PM EST
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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (1.00 / 1)

when has a BHO sucked anything up? it is a constant whine-fest of distortion and re-cycled crap from the Arkansas Project in the 90's, using the very words of Flush and Billdo.


by zerosumgame on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:12:27 PM EST
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From my perspective (2.00 / 1)

Your perspective is completely unrecognizable as a descriptor of reality.  And that's not just snark, it's literal truth.  I literally cannot see what you wrote as describing what has happened in this campaign.


by Trickster on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:44:28 PM EST
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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (none / 0)

I don't want to alienate anybody.  It's just as stinging for us Obama supporters to be attacked by Hillary supporters as it is for you to be attacked by Obama supporters.

We can sit here for hours and argue about who started what, and who's a bigger meany, but when it's all said and done, WE ALL WANT AND NEED A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT IN 2009!

I'll be the first to admit that I would sulk, bitch, and whine if Hillary ended up getting the nomination.  I'll also vote for her, and depending on how deep the wounds are, campaign for her.


by doschi on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 07:05:27 PM EST
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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (none / 0)

I agree. I will be pissed if Obama gets the nomination by cheating and depending on how arrogant he acts before and after the nomination (if he gets), I will decide whether to campaign for him. But I will vote for him even if he acts as a hypocrite.


by Sandeep on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 07:28:45 PM EST
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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (none / 0)

How in the world would he get the nomination by "cheating"?


by ChrisKaty on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:06:38 PM EST
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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (none / 0)

By suppressing the elected delegates in MI and FL. If they are not seated as elected or there are new elections, then Obama's candidacy will be regarded as illegitimate by many Democrats. His offer to split the delegates 50/50 is something many see as vote stealing.


by DaleA on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:35:12 PM EST
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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (none / 0)

Clinton only won a bare 55% in Michigan running an uncontested vote. 2 out of 5 Democrats chose to turn up only so they could vote against her.

A primary she had pledged not to participate in and had claimed would not count -- same as Bill Clinton never had an affair with Monica and Bush's America doesn't torture. Typical lies, all depending on redefining the words to mean something other than what would otherwise be their plain sense.

A bit of nerve talking about "illegitimacy" given these circumstances.


by Aris Katsaris on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:14:31 PM EST
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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (none / 0)

How did Obama suppress the elected delegates in MI and FL?

The MI and FL delegates will get fully seated after Obama reaches 2025 without them, so this is all a moot point anyway.

Hopefully between this election and next we'll get a more fair nomination process.


by grover738 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:10:13 PM EST
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Re: Sen. McCain brings a lifetime of experience (none / 0)

Those are not my words, they are Sen. Clinton's words. Words matter. She has not repudiated them yet. That would be a first step towards reconciliation.


by LibDem on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:42:49 PM EST
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When will Obama repudiate these words? (none / 0)

He said this on national TV, in a high-def network broadcast.  All the GOP has to do is burn a DVD to make their ad.  (And bear in mind that he was standing right next to her looking her in the eye when he said it.)

Now, this, I think, is one of the things that's happened during the course of this campaign, that there's a set of assertions made by Senator Clinton, as well as her husband, that are not factually accurate.

And I think that part of what the people are looking for right now is somebody who's going to solve problems and not resort to the same typical politics that we've seen in Washington.

Not only did he say these things, the entire theme of his campaign that week was Bill and Hillary are nasty liars who will say anything to win.  Even Kennedy and Kerry were pushing it after they came on board (which was right after this).


by Trickster on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:58:10 PM EST
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Re: When will Obama repudiate these words? (none / 0)

You really think the R's would use a statement that tame? No, they'll just say "SHE'S A LIAR!!!!", as they will to BO.


by grover738 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:12:38 PM EST
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Obama just pointed out the obvious (none / 0)

He does not need to repudiate it. Sen. Clinton has made up outrageous falsehoods throughout this campaign. Most recently she was caught red-handed  the Bosnia sniper story.

Sen. Clinton is a Democrat, as far I know. I take her at her word. I mean I have no reason to doubt that.


by LibDem on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 08:39:48 AM EST
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