than anything Wright had to say. And posts that got hundreds of comments and lots of attention, too.
I'm not saying that Wright wasn't wrong.
I'm saying these sorts of tirades are as commonplace in the left side of the blogosphere as they are on the right side of the blogosphere as well as in real life situations from both the left and the right.
Show me the links to progressive bloggers who've used "Hillary" and the "N" word in the same sentence. Show me a reference to the U.S. of KKKKA. Show me prog bloggers who've said "God damn America." I want to see it.
9/11 consiracy diaries.
HIV was created by the government, yep, seen that many times over the years.
It's real. It happens. Deal with it.
sorry buddy, I spy a copout...if you can't defend your post, don't dismiss Jerome's.
Come now, Walter. Please. Ooooh, some unknown users on some blogs had mean posts, really mean and nasty. Look, Wright is a 'leader' in his community and has influence. Obama is in his community and is an idol of his (both ways). Obama is running for president. Obama approves of Wright because he is dedicated to his ministry. Obama did not throw Wright under the bus and Obama only 'addressed' the issue after being caught.
Following your logic, let's not fault Bush for [fill in the blank] because somebody, somewhere, posted something worse than Bush.
'I'm not saying Wright wasn't wrong', uhhh, yes you are.
a spiritual mentor and friend for 20 yrs, it carries a bit more weight than when it comes from an anonymous poster on a blog who has zero relationship to the candidate.
Wright's tirades are reflecting badly on Obama and that's a fact.
Was Kerry asking to swiftboated when he opposed the war in Vietnam and testified in congress, even saying some things that turned out to be false? His comments, while good intentioned, ended up hurting a lot of people, including a lot of Democratic veterans.
He never apologized, and progressives never expected him to, because they understood that the man was essentially good, and felt it was unfair that he was painted as something he wasn't.
Unless progressives believe that Obama concurs Wright's divisive language, they should be willing to stand up and defend him. Willing and eager. Sitting on your hands while a good man is tarred and feathered by the Right, is not progressive. It's cowardly.
Please don't compare John Kerry, a war hero, to Rev. Wright.
I wasn't. I was comparing him to Obama. Read it again please.
I don't think Obama can be compared to Kerry.
Why?
Regarding Kerry--I think it was dishonest for him to run for president as a "decorated war hero" even though he was a combat veteran who earned a number of medals, because his place in the history of Vietnam was as the young man who testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He was an anti-war hero, really, rather than a "war hero." If Obama is really a devotee of Rev. Wright, then he isn't quite who he presents himself as--someone who is "beyond race." I can kind of understand how Obama could have fallen under the Rev's spell, being a black man raised by his white grandparents and never really knowing his father...but that is at odds with being the miracle worker that his campaign has built him up to be.
Fair enough. But that's not what I hear on this site. The question is very simple. Do you think Obama is a "race hustler" trying to pull the wool over America's eyes? If you do, go ahead and hold him to the impossible standard set up by the Right. That's why I compare him to Kerry here. Kerry made some mistakes that the Right exploited. Obama has clearly made some mistakes on this issue. But unless you believe he is a bad man, you should be able to see him, at the very least, as on the same team.
Helping the Right throw Obama over the bus is just as divisive as Wright's comments.
I have a lot of respect for Obama, I think he's a wonderful person but I am not comfortable with him as our nominee this year. I don't think this thing with Rev. Wright should be a permanent stain on his career, more of a speed bump...which might or might not prevent him from earning the presidential nomination this year.
So, if you go to a church for years and years and 95% of what is being said there is great and 99% of the people are wonderful you should walk away because 5% of what is said is over the line and 1% of the people are nutjobs?
I walked by the other day and there was a molehill....yesterday it was a friggin' mountain.
Everyone needs to just step back a little and calm down.
You're assuming, of course, that the only heinous things Wright said are the few minutes of videotape we've seen.
No, but I am assuming that for every 5 unreasonable things he said he said 95 reasonable ones; and doesn't that seem far more likely than the incredibly exaggerated theory that every word that came out of the man's mouth was vile, evil, and divisive.
If you have 99% good white lies (i.e., your hair looks great!), and 1% bad white lie (i.e., I know he molested my son/daughter!) which one pretty much cancels out all the others?
Do you believe for even a moment, that the 527's will not go after Hillary...? It doesn't matter if it is truth, lies, or innuendo, the right-wing 527's will go after our nominee regardless of who it is.
Seriously, they both have baggage that the Repubs will attempt to exploit.. all the more reason for us to stand together.
maybe i'm too picky, but when i run into that kind of talk, i get up and walk out. too bad your candidate didn't, walt.
also, those imaginary Obama coat-tails, if they ever were to be, are getting thinner all the time.
