I think you'll all be much happier here at MYDD. It's a Clinton love-fest all the time. It's best not to expose yourself to too much reality about your candidate. It's hard to keep drinking the kool aid when you can see what else is offered.
I am in the middle about Clinton and Obama. I see both of their strengths and weaknesses. But I have been appalled at the tone at DailyKos and by Kos' own willingness to do anything for his candidate, and to allow his site to devolve into a hate zone.
It might be misogyny on his part, or a willingness to look the other way when misogyny rears its' head. I don't know. But I find it SO disheartening for a so-called progressive Democrat to behave this way.
I don't see Jerome crossing the line the way Kos does. (I think Markos knows he went over the top about the video darkening, "racism" accusation, and that's why he got so defensive in his follow up posts. Save us from insecure tyrants who can't see their own mistakes, biases and failings. Sort of reminds me of, gosh, who was the guy? ...let me think.... oh yeah: W.)
I understand that it's impossible to police every diarist and posting, but some sort of regular statements about maintaining civil discourse, and refraining from hate speech, AND setting a personal example in one's own statements is not too much to ask. You don't have to be neutral, but you should make an effort to be fair and truly progressive.
We should be decrying baseless slurs against both candidates, and keeping the MSM as honest as possible. Because we'll need every last resource to beat McCain in the general.
I will vote for whoever our Democratic candidate is, happily. I'm not walking away and giving McCain an easy ride the the WH, and I hope anyone who has said otherwise comes to their senses.
Our planet can't tolerate another 4 years of Republican selfish & shortsighted administration.
I would like to take umbrage with one comment from the diary....
"I think they draw a sharp contrast between Obama's and Hillary's supporters...."
I tour a lot of the blogosphere on any given day, my mainstays are here (lurker for quite a while), Kos, TPM, Huffingtonpost, Politico, as well as some MSM blogs...
To be honest with you, I have seen vitriol on both sides. For as many insults and arrows I have seen flung at Clinton supporters, I see them flung back at Obama supporters... I once mentioned that I admired the way his campaign was being run and got called a "kid in search of a messiah"...although not quite as nicely. For the record, I'm a 40 year old heretic, so that could not be further from the truth.
The knives cut both ways.
I'm voting Democratic in November... who the top of the ticket is will not impact that decision. John McCain is simply that unacceptable...
I am hoping against hope that I have a lot of company... The party will need all of you.
And I agree, it's been both sides that have done it. Including, to my regret, me at times.
I think there should be a difference between a site dedicated to trash one candidate, like NoQuarter/Taylor Marsh, and sites that lean(heavily or not) towards one canidate.
I will say that MyDD and Talk left lean Hillary, while DailyKos and Open Left lean Obama. Heavily or not.
Wait, am I supposed to be posting here? I lean heavily towards Obama....but will vote for Hillary if she somehow wrangles the nomination. Ahh Hell, I ain't on no 'strike'.
Boycott?
I lean towards a boycott. heh-heh
I used to enjoy Alegre's diaries, they were one of the few good diaries about Hillary that allowed me to believe that supporting Hillary was ok if she won.
I don't like links to NoQuarter. They have gone way too far over there and look like some kinds of lunatics/freepers.
And that's what I don't get. Doesn't anyone know the difference between disagreeing and degrading? Differences on issues and innuendos that constitute charachter slimes?
Ahh well, consider this my middle of the road MyDD mini-diary.
I disagree with your "Clinton love fest" assessment of MyDD. I was an Edwards supporter who is leaning Obama, but I couldn't take the hatred being spewed at Kos. And the poster above is right, the Obama darkening claims that Kos front-paged was the jumping the shark moment for me. That he hasn't had the class to apologize for those accusations just affirmed that I had made the right choice.
I see a fair amount of pro-Obama diaries here, though there is no doubt there appears to be more Clinton supporters. However, the invective here is considerably less than at Kos on both side. There are notable exceptions: I've seen overt racists here trashing Obama, and I've seen some of the same, non-thinking juvenile attacks on Clinton that dominate at Kos. But for the most part, it's been a far better place to visit.
It is the Obama supporters on DKOS who appear unable or unwilling to engage in substantive discourse on the democratic primary process. All I care about is electing a D in November. I am not firmly in either candidates's camp and will support either in November. However, the hatred and vitrol that masquarades as commentary on DKOS became too ugly to tolerate. The most vile rhetoric was directed solely to Clinton and her supporters by the legions of mob mentality Obamabots who lack even basic critical thinking skills. Avoiding hate is sane, not Kool Aid.
