sorry, I forgot, I was hopefulcanadian over there.

I think this is what you meant right?  Our yahoo group has over 230 members so far and everyone's welcome to join us.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HillarysVo ice/

Just submit a request to join and one of our moderators will approve it in paretty short order.

I tried to sign up at the Yahoo site but couldn't get through.  There is something buggy going on between me, my password and Yahoo.