Expecting civil discourse on DKos is pretty pointless.  It's tiltly wildly towards the left's version of freep, and that's pretty pathetic.

Even though I'm not a Hillary supporter, I tend to hang around here more than DKos because there's actually some reasonable difference of opinion here.  And it doesn't move eight million miles an hour.

But yeah, talking about "shutting someone down" is just sort of sad.  If someone's libelous, point out how what they're saying is a lie, and move on.