Cheney was quite effective -- and had Hillary's support.
What that shows is that experience without wisdom and compassion is perhaps not just pointless, but even dangerous.
ahhh yes, Naive and inexperienced, just like Obama, way to take the bait a la Obama/Novak.
You confuse good american policy with effectiveness and experience.
you dont think cheney was effective???
2 Scotus jusices who will have a say in american policy much longer than the next 4 presidential elections combined.
The big business group that supported Bushco. have screwed over the average american, lined their pockets with more surplus that was imaginable, and will continue to do so for quite some time.
Haliburton execs are swimming with glee, even with all the bad press they have gotten because of cheney.
Have been allowed to run around international law and found holes where holes dont exist when it concerns "enemy combatants." Litigation has continued and thousands upon thousands of hours have been put into that work without even reaching the merits of any case.
The repugs have dominated national security for 6 years, securing the 2004 nomination, and only now are the tables turning on Bush/Cheney.
Cheney and co have made immigration into a bad topic for dems by demonizing Mexicans and South American immigrants, solely to screw over dems because they knew the democrats had and have a better position.
The administration have ruined the American economy, but lined the pockets of the wealthy, the same people that will offer jobs to Bush and Cheney when they are done in Jan of 09.
They knew they were going down in 08, so they just did what they wanted for the people they wanted, so when a dem comes in in 08 (if a dem is elected) things will be so fucked up and will take so long to fix, that in 4 years, the party can fix itself and retake the whitehouse.
And even when things looked sour in 2004, they were effective in getting gay marriage amendments in key states to be on the ballot in order to keep power.
Cheney is despicable. He is scum to me. He's a load that should have been swallowed because he's been able to ruin so many things, but ineffective he is not. Shrewd, heartless, a coward, yes, ineffective? No.
"Cheney is despicable. He is scum to me."
And hillary voted in favor of the worst he put forward -- Bankruptcy, NCLB, Patriot, Iraq.
If that's "the benefit of experience," we could do with less of it.
keep on with those talking points.
she didnt vote for the bankruptcy bill in 2005.
NCLB - she wants to repeal it, if it was properly funded, it might have been worth it, but Bush decided against actually funding it.
Iraq - we've hashed out thousands of time on this thread.
As for the Patriot act - its a shame that Bush/Cheney abused it. But Obama voted for it as well.
Guess you are voting uncommitted?
She voted FOR the 2001 bankruptcy bill. She voted FOR NCLB. She voted FOR the Patriot Act. She voted FOR Iraq.
She was FOR the worst of Bush/Cheney before she was against it.
Live with it. She certainly has to.
