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Re: Obama Showing Movement on Residual Troops (none / 0)

Interesting post, but why do you keep describing Obama as "hedging"? I don't see it as hedging at all; he has updated his proposal and changed his plan to reflect what he sees going on in Iraq. I've long thought the antiwar Democrats were wrong to leave so many missions open for residual troops: as long as we're there, I believe we foment violence and make any government complicit in an occupation, depriving Iraqis the opportunity to develop a government worthy of their respect or allegiance. I am very pleased to see that Obama's plan now subtracts training from the stated mission, making it contingent on political developments there. And that antiterrorist forces might be stationed only outside the country. That seems to me to greatly reduce the likely number of residual forces and their negative impact.
   The explicit denunciation of moves toward war with Iran and the call for a new constitutional convention are two other very positive and significant elements of Obama's speech.
   
by skeptica on Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 01:51:39 AM EST

Re: Obama Showing Movement on Residual Troops (none / 0)

I agree about the term "hedging." I don't think psericks is using it in the conventional sense (i.e., equivocation). Indeed, the diarist appears to mean the opposite (clear, direct). Clarification would help.


by DPW on Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 04:07:10 AM EST
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Re: Obama Showing Movement on Residual Troops (none / 0)

That's a good point, it's the wrong word.  My point was merely that he's starting to restrict his statement and add lots of qualifiers.  And that these qualifiers are going to open up a path for mainstream Democratic candidates to dramatically scale back the numbers of residual troops that have been talked about previously.

I guess I was also trying to fend off a couple of the polemics yesterday directed at Obama by some of the folks at Open Left by... trying to meet them halfway, I guess.

I've actually never really thought about the word "hedge" before.  What I was getting at was the sense of newly restricting a statement in such a way as to allow for a different outcome --- such as 'to hedge your bets.'  I didn't really mean the intention to confuse or mislead part that you're right about.


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by psericks on Thu Sep 13, 2007 at 11:50:46 AM EST
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