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Electability (none / 0)

was a big concern among those Dems that switched from Dean to Kerry the last few weeks. If Hillary's electability problems receive more attention Obama could benefit. Obama's strategy should be:

1. Remind voters of his and Hillary's different history on Iraq.

  1. Show voters that Hillary as a nominee will hurt the Democratic Party. (This should probably be done by surrogates rather than Obama himself)
  2. Capture the black vote.
  3. Turn out the youth vote.
  4. Peel off some Edwards voters who are strongly anti-Hillary.

Obama's chances are excellent in my opinion. A lot of voters haven't made up their minds yet, and those 60%+ who won't name Hillary now are not likely to vote for her in the primaries. Hopefully Obama will outraise Hillary in Q2 sending shockwaves through the MSN. His position in Iowa and New Hampshire is already quite good and will improve once he starts campaigning there seriously.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Mon May 28, 2007 at 05:24:30 PM EST

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"Obama's chances are excellent in my opinion. A lot of voters haven't made up their minds yet, and those 60%+ who won't name Hillary now are not likely to vote for her in the primaries."

That is nonsense by any measure.  You are assuming that as candidates peel away that Clinton will not pick up a singulary voter from other candidates.  That is ridiculous reasoning.   Besides, she gets a huge percentage of first AND second choice votes (65%,) a much higher level than either Obama or Edwards.  Her support universe at this point is a lot higher than either Obama's or Edwards'.    


by georgep on Mon May 28, 2007 at 06:03:16 PM EST
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Unfortunately, I agree.


by Korha on Mon May 28, 2007 at 09:51:39 PM EST
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I am talking about undecided voters at this point.

And people do not have two votes.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Tue May 29, 2007 at 02:51:27 AM EST
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Second choice vote means that she's second in preference. She might not get those votes, but they sure do point that claiming that Hillary will never get a vote she doesn't have already is not supported by any facts.

There is nothing that suggest that Hillary can't gain votes from undecideds


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Ernst on Tue May 29, 2007 at 11:17:00 AM EST
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I don't support Obama, but I would not call him an "empty suit."  I have to disagree with you there.  Too harsh.  You have a point, but it could have been made without that gratuitous attack on Barack Obama.  

I think his experience will be an issue.  The people will decide.


by littafi on Mon May 28, 2007 at 10:01:38 PM EST
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How come noon talks about the "inexperience" of Edwards, Guiliani, Romney and Thompson? They have no more experience than Obama's six years in Illiniois senate and four years in US senate (after 2008).

I guess it's either because Obama is black (not so much in here) or because he looks young.


The history of the left is a history of purists betraying the progressive movement so that they can feel good about their righteous selves.
by Populism2008 on Tue May 29, 2007 at 02:53:28 AM EST
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Because most of them have been around since the '90.

And Edwards has been running continuesly since 2003. Obama is simply the newest kid on the block. That obama is young looking doesn't help as well.

But Edwards, Guiliani, Romney and Thompson will likely be grilled on that subject if one of them becomes the nominee. it's just that they've all got worse problems right now.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Ernst on Tue May 29, 2007 at 11:26:18 AM EST
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