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Re: Clarifying on the Need for Upheaval (none / 0)

Cuellar. Oh wait.


"There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America"- Bill Clinton
by bluenc on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 08:25:35 PM EST

Re: Clarifying on the Need for Upheaval (3.00 / 1)

We got started late on him.  Try again... this time we've got more time.


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by bedobe on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 08:27:11 PM EST
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Re: Clarifying on the Need for Upheaval (none / 0)

Were Republicans able to take Democratic primary ballots in that race?  I've heard speculation that there were crossovers voting for Cuellar.
If that's the case, a 2008 challenge makes sense.  They probably won't vote in a Democratic Congressional primary if there's a contested GOP presidential primary.
by ChgoSteve on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 09:12:24 PM EST
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Re: Clarifying on the Need for Upheaval (none / 0)

Ciro ran a bad campaign.


by Matt Stoller on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 09:17:57 PM EST
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Re: Clarifying on the Need for Upheaval (3.00 / 1)

The problem here is that you are totally wrong. Your justification for your characterization is based in no fact, just some weird characterization of what you think Schumer's mindset is.

Look at his voting record. He's a liberal; you just don't like him because he doesn't check every box on your progressive check list.


by DemocraticBass on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 09:21:13 PM EST
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Re: Clarifying on the Need for Upheaval (none / 0)

well, we might know his mindset from having spoken with him:

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/03/31/re ason-30452-to-give-to-ned-lamont/


by Pachacutec on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 09:28:51 PM EST
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Re: Clarifying on the Need for Upheaval (none / 0)

This is such a typical response. You completely ignore my point. I don't care what you interpret his inner motivation to be based on one or two interviews. The guy votes as a Democrat. Calling him center-right is just stupid.


by DemocraticBass on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 09:31:55 PM EST
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Re: Clarifying on the Need for Upheaval (3.00 / 1)

right. going by what someone says is totally irrelevant and irrational.  the voting record might be all that mattered if he wasn't in a leadership position.  since he is, he has to be judged on his leadership as well as his votes.


by Lucas O'Connor on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 10:45:45 PM EST
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But was crossover voting allowed? (none / 0)

The number of voters in Cuellar's areas seemed much higher than in Ciro's.  Was that crossover or just poor GOTV work on our side?
I think there should be more analysis of what went right and what went wrong after a campaign in which the blogosphere gets financially and emotionally involved.  Otherwise it can seem that we're just trying one "Hail Mary pass" after another.
by ChgoSteve on Mon Apr 03, 2006 at 09:33:09 PM EST
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