But you can accept Dean's premise and still wonder whether his 50-state strategy is really the best way to go about building the party. Even some Democrats who support Dean's larger vision have doubts about whether he has built enough accountability into his model for financing state parties. Republicans, as I saw firsthand in Ohio during the 2004 campaign, demand certain metrics of their local organizers. Field workers are expected to sign up so many new voters, or knock on so many doors, by a given date, and people who don't meet their quotas and deadlines can find themselves replaced -- even if they're volunteers. Republican staffs in the states are required to take part in an unrelenting succession of conference calls with Washington.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/magazi ne/01dean.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all&a mp;oref=slogin
I think CGI is doing nothing new. Even Republicans demand metrics and goals on their volunteers. So if you cant hack then dont join.
I'm not sure this is a conversation about the evils of metrics. I don't think you'll find anyone who runs any electoral campaign, does any voter registration, implements GOTV programs, or builds membership-based organizations who doesn't whole-heartedly believe in setting goals, tracking numbers, and demanding accountability to them.
If there are no goals then it isn't a real effort, it's just feel-good civic masturbation.
For me the real question is what is canvassing and what is organizing and why is the difference crucial?
I don't think that Jasmine has ever actually organized a day in her life. She clearly has horrible people skills. I am willing to bet that she wouldn't be able to maintain relationships with volunteers if she tried. And if she worked with paid staff, her turn-over rate would be through the roof. I sincerely hope that Jasmine never works on a campaign for progressives and/or democrats. I would be more than happy if she worked for the republicans because it would be a guaranteed loss for them.
Jasmine-
I have read all of your ignorant comments. Don't take your inability to organize out on people that have done more for the progressive movement in the past week than you have in your whole life. And yes, I am very aware that this is an ad hominem attack. It's hard to argue with someone's reason when they do not have any.
Can you be more transparent on the nature of your group? How many are you? Who funds your protest group. What is your goal. Increase your salary? Lessen your hours or just disband GCI?
Because this is an organized takedown of GCI and the progressive movt. Republicans have a counterpart. So it seems this is not just exclusive of the Dem Party.
Talking about people skills? Look who is talking--debating by bullying and punching below the belt.
Umm, are you seriously saying the GCI is synonymous with the progressive movement?
And what would really be lost with no GCI?
I'm not advocating a position here, but this is strikes me as a fairly paranoid post.
I'm fully prepared to accept that GCi does very useful things, but I'm not prepared to accept that they are building a base or delivering infrastructure to a progressive movement. They are fundraising and they are doing paid door-to-door GOTV canvasses and they are mostly doing it with young activists who don't have a connection to the communities in which they work.
This is not evil, but it isn't building a movement either.
Does Jasmine work for GCI? Of course she does. Ignore trolls, esp. Astroturf Brand<c> Trolls, and they go away.
No I dont work for GCI and I think you work for GOP or a disinfo campaign.
Mouth, meet foot. Mmmm, the taste of shoe leather.
Walks away, shaking head
