I guess perhaps, your perspective is that you should take action against the person who is trying to defeat torture in the United States.

Not many people know that Gingrich spent alot of time reviewing old movies of Hitler. He really does get the grassroots movement better than anyone, he helped the GOP to go in this direction.

I am a member of Moveon because I don't like theatre. I like simple, every day action like sidewalks and jogging trails. And drug bills that work, and boring old "peace" instead of weird "pre-emptive self defense" wars on innocent countries.

Tell me truthfully. IF Moveon.org were to take up a kitty against McCain, how many members do you think would support it?

Thought so.  Whats next, stoller?

I'm pretty sure McCain is part of the theater; I think it's clear that the establishment accepts McCain and takes advantage of him (though on the other hand, McCain himself isn't I think aware of the nature of his role.)

BTW, another interesting article on McCain is in David Foster Wallace's new book of essays (Consider the Lobster) -- DFW covered McCain's primary challenge in 2000 for Rolling Stone, and while it's rather fluffy and DFW definitely missed the "real story" of the 2000 GOP, it has some interesting material on how McCain was "handled" by his advisors.