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George Allen?! (3.00 / 1)

wow. Obviously these 'insiders' are skeptical about a non-bolshevik Republican having a chance in '08.

But I have to think McCain is the guy: he's just as wingnutty as the others, but normal Americans aren't afraid of him (at least if they don't follow politics closely).

I have little or no opinion on our guys; the worst among them (i.e., Lieberman) would be Abe Lincoln compared to Bush or whoever they run next.

by ktheintz on Thu Apr 28, 2005 at 07:31:10 PM EST

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Do not underestimate George Allen. He was way behind Mary Sue Terry early in his Gubernatorial win, and he stormed back and killed her. Then he sliced and diced Chuck Robb. He is an electoral bad-ass. He is the Republican I most fear in all of this.

Only charisma can beat him... he will wax the floor with Hillary or Mark Warner or John Kerry. There's some hope for Bayh because he's a centrist and has rural/Red State appeal. Edwards could match him smarmy smile for smarmy smile, but has weaknesses that Allen doesn't have.

I think Bayh is the best matchup for Allen.

I'm no Allen lover, but I've seen him operate in Virginia and like I said, no one should underestimate him.

by redsoxkangaroo on Thu Apr 28, 2005 at 09:10:29 PM EST
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I am not a Hillary supporter, but to say she lacks charisma is simply not true.  She isn't her husband, but I have seen her speak and was impressed with her everytime.  Still not voting for her in the primary but to compare her charisma to Kerry's really isn't a fair comparison.  Also, if charisma is a worry, Bayh is not the guy to pick.  
http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:23:34 PM EST
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I'm surprised that you find Hillary's public speaking to be charismatic.  I heard her only once, but it was the opposite of charisma.  I found her to be monotonous, uninspired, trite, hectoring, tedious, egotistical, and generally loathesome.  As for any telegenic qualities, never have I seen/heard any clips of her speaking when she's inspired any desire in me to go on listening to her.  My automatic response to her voice is to reach for the remote.  I'm not at all sure that, were she nominated, I could force myself to vote for her.  I'm pretty sure she stands for nothing at all, and would sell out nearly anything I hold dear should she ever deem it expedient.  From almost any perspective, a disastrous person to nominate.
by smintheus on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 09:36:09 PM EST
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Re: charisma?? (none / 0)

I have seen her several times... She isn't Bill but she is engaging.  It seems your dislike for her might cloud some of what you are saying, but no big deal.
http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Mon May 02, 2005 at 10:03:27 AM EST
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i think Allen would be a stronger candidate for Republicans than Frist. McCain would be the strongest but the christian coalition will not support him.

among the choices mentioned, i agree with you that Bayh may be the best matchup against Allen because of  his red state/rural appeal .

Warner needs more political experience under his belt to show.

that's why I hope Mark Warner challenges Allen in 2006. that would be a heavyweight battle. If Warner pulls it off, Allen can kiss '08 good bye.

by fightingLadyinblue on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 02:00:50 PM EST
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McCain?! (3.00 / 1)

McCain will never make it out of a Republican primary.
by Gary Boatwright on Thu Apr 28, 2005 at 09:43:50 PM EST
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All things are possible. (none / 0)

If the Dems do their job right, and the Christine Todd Whitmans and Colin Powells out there do their duty to their country, Red America could be fed up enough to back a perceived maverick moderate in 2008.

Of course, that's an awful big bag of if. But it's possible.

Are we safer yet?
by catastrophile on Thu Apr 28, 2005 at 09:50:57 PM EST
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i agree! McCain will never get the nod of the right wing of the party. He & Guiliani are in the same predicament as far as the Far right is concerned.
by fightingLadyinblue on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 02:02:39 PM EST
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Mc Cain is pathetic.. He has lost his spine... (none / 0)

And Arizonans have the most regressive tax system in the nation.. the poor subsidize the rich on a massive scale.. see
http://www.ctj.org
by ultraworld on Thu Apr 28, 2005 at 11:29:07 PM EST
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I wouldn't call McCain a wingnut.  He is a republican no doubt about it, but he is no Delay or Bill Frist.  
http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Fri Apr 29, 2005 at 12:24:15 PM EST
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