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Re: I don't trust any polls this early. (none / 0)

How is the governor of a small state like Arkansas an insider?

How is the governor of a large state like California, and the son of a former governor, an outsider?

Brown couldn't even win his own state.
The only reason he finished 2nd is because everybody else had the good sense get out when it became apparent that Clinton was going to be the nominee.  Brown just hung around.

by v2aggie2 on Sat Apr 30, 2005 at 02:22:00 AM EST
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Re: I don't trust any polls this early. (none / 0)

Clinton was thoroughly an insider. Why do you think half of Washington endorsed him before the New Hampshire primary?

As for Brown, he was an ex-governor, another similarity with Dean. He hadn't been governor since 1982. And I really can't think of a candidate from the past twenty years, with the possible exception of Jesse Jackson, who was as much of an outsider as Brown was in 1992.

Read this speech and tell me that the speaker was an "insider." Key phrases include "bought-and-paid-for politicians" and "the Incumbent Party up in Washington."

Also, he won the Maine caucus a week after the New Hampshire primary and the Colorado primary a week after that, when everyone else was still in the race.

by craverguy on Sat Apr 30, 2005 at 03:05:29 AM EST
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Clinton railed against Washington.
Governors can do that.

Hell, even Bush did.  Does this make him an outsider?

Look, I like Jerry Brown, and I do think he had good points during the 1992 campaign.

But if he was an outsider, it was only because he couldn't win higher office besides governor.  He lost the presidency twice and the US Senate in 1982 to a fairly mediocre Pete Wilson.

Winning does matter.

by v2aggie2 on Sat Apr 30, 2005 at 12:39:48 PM EST
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