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I was there (none / 0)

And no offense, it was very full with people coming and going during the session.

Some form our delegation didn't show, I'm sure there were many others of similar issue.

I was curious why so few stayed for the Vice-Chair session.  We need excellent Vice-Chairs and I do recall the shirts from the morning, but not the afternoon.

Our committee was told that the list was closed off (we had our names in two weeks in advance) for space and space alone.  I'm glad you got in, but I'm curious why it is this session didn't have a central organizing committee that set up how to handle these inquiries.  Instead of it having been a personal issue with rank and file it simply seemed in need of more structure before the event to ensure that everyone who wanted to attend could attend.

by bendygirl on Wed Feb 02, 2005 at 04:02:31 PM EST

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The reason people were coming and going during the session probably has something to do with the fact that in the end event organizers had resigned themselves to allowing it to be an open session, thanks to Elena's hard work.  Even if that would have been the case anyhow, the problem still remains: they were telling people that the caucus was closed, spreading the word through the ether that the grassroots were not welcome.  So even if, in fact, you could just show up and get in, how many people did not show up at all, because the word on the streets was that they wouldn't be allowed in the door?
by Woodhouse on Wed Feb 02, 2005 at 04:42:10 PM EST
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I found the "space" arguement that organizers used to be just completely ridiculous. This is NYC, for God's sake- it's not like it would have been impossible to find a place that could accomodate a larger crowd. I also was annoyed because the organizers weren't expecting or prepared for a crowd of ordinary dems to turn up. Why wouldn't they have expected us? People had turned up at every other caucus- did they really think that no one would show up in NYC? Or did they think at all?

I want to say though that the people who worked the caucus were very patient and gracious, and they and Elena handled very well what otherwise could have become messy. I loved the fact that there were so many really young people working there; They're the future of this party. I was so glad to have gotten the chance to attend; it was truly a wonderful experience.

(I personally didn't stay because I had a 12 year old who had a soccer game to get to, but some of the driving votes folks did go back to watch the afternoon session.)

by sneemteam on Wed Feb 02, 2005 at 04:48:43 PM EST
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I'm reluctant to jump to conclusions, but based on the meager information that was being provided to us, it appeared that the "space limitations" excuse was worse than ridiculous -- it was a lie.  After we were told that the reason they were closing the caucus was because of the room size, one of the folks who signed up with Driving Votes to attend called the Roosevelt.  The hotel staff told her that the room seated 700, and that the caucus organizers had booked the room with a total list of 340 names.
by Woodhouse on Wed Feb 02, 2005 at 04:58:05 PM EST
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No offense taken.  I just want to clarify, I saw the empty seats when I was seated in the balcony (I entered right before the meeting started).  I am glad if those seats filled up.  I'm simply pointing out that we brought over 60 people and everyone had a seat.  

As I said, there was no system for accomodating the rank-and-file.  A lack of such a system, and an unwillingness to create one, indicates a disinterest in including the rank-and-file.  Or at least an aversion to change.  They should've reacted to the public interest and established a procedure for allowing us to attend.  Instead, they deliberately misinformed us.  

I did stay for the Vice-Chair session. That certainly WAS an empty room!  I'm glad I did, though.  Those were the most interesting speeches to me because the candidates talked more about party policies and procedure and there was a little less theatrical.  Or maybe it just seemed that way because there was no press and all the observers left.

Interestingly, I was not even aware that the Vice-Chair candidates were speaking until I arrived there.  The NYSDC had told me the session would last until noon.  We had told those who had contacted Driving Votes that the session would last until noon, so I suppose most of our attendees had only planned on staying until then. I think it was  Nancy Jane Woodside who mentioned that it was the first caucus the VC candidates had been invited to speak at!  

by Elena on Wed Feb 02, 2005 at 05:13:00 PM EST
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