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Re: The Taylor Law is a good law (3.00 / 3)

Let me add to this.  I'm with the workers because:

  • Productivity has skyrocketed over the last twenty years, while workers have been squeezed from every angle
  • I saw an article in which I learned that a very large percentage of workers forgo their earned vacation time because they don't want to give management a reason to fire them
  • The wealthiest amonst us are capital investors and their gaines have been huge - but as I said earlier - the workers making their investments pay off have been screwed over and over again
  • I've worked at the highest levels of corporate america - I've seen executives treated like royalty - from the limos that pick them up in the morning, to the food that is catered to their offices, to the 5 star accomodations they use when traveling, to the elite events they attend in their cororate sky-boxes...  and I've seen workers in the same building without health insurance

The only thing I really don't understand is why the other NYC unions aren't showing some solidarity.  NYC could be a catalyst if the rest of the organized workers joined the strike - even in symbolic ways.  The PD could refuse overtime.  Doormen could show up 1/2 an hour late.  Hotel workers could take a sick day.  

What this country needs (amongst so much else) is a real discussion about the decline of the worker.  All this shit about offshoring jobs pales in comparison to what we have done to the workers that get up in the morning every day, do a solid days work, and get chumped by management over and over again through the years.  Workers have become conditioned to being fucked - witness the vacation story referenced above (you do the search - it's out there)...

Anyway.  Count me as one more NYer that supports the strike.

by Mike Stark on Thu Dec 22, 2005 at 12:26:16 AM EST
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Re: The Taylor Law is a good law (none / 0)

When TWU announced the strike, the heads of the teachers' union, the building maintenance union, and the police union were all there in solidarity. Pat Lynch of the police union said that the police officers "while on the other side of the barriers now are with you in their hearts." It would be nice if the media did a better job of reporting the fact that the teachers and cops support the transit workers.
by Scott Shields on Thu Dec 22, 2005 at 12:38:08 AM EST
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unlikely to happen- they have a narrative that they are going with and facts aren't crucial to it
by bruh21 on Thu Dec 22, 2005 at 12:46:04 AM EST
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Re: The Taylor Law is a good law (3.00 / 1)

Count me as one more NYer that supports the strike.

And me.

I had to walk about a mile total and take the East River water taxi and the PATH train today.  But the TWU are doing what they have to do.

What angers me are people who say, "I don't even have a pension.  Why should the transit workers get one at age 55?"

That is the mentality of sheep -- of servants who have been conditioned to love being kicked around, and to pull down any one who tries to demand better.  It's a slave mentality, frankly.

No, most of us don't have pensions.  My company (a large specialty publishing and information firm) stopped giving its workers pensions a few years before I started there.  So because corporate (and government) America is shafting many of its workers, all the others should get the shaft too?

Being a transit worker can involve dangerous, filthy, deafening conditions, hostile customers, and long and grueling hours.  Retiring at 55 is not unreasonable.

Oh, and the MTA would have the cash to meet its pension obligations if Pataki and co. in Albany hadn't been raiding the budget for the last several years.

by Maximus on Thu Dec 22, 2005 at 01:18:01 AM EST
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What angers me are people who say, "I don't even have a pension.  Why should the transit workers get one at age 55?"

That is the mentality of sheep -- of servants who have been conditioned to love being kicked around, and to pull down any one who tries to demand better.  It's a slave mentality, frankly.

Wow, this really cuts to the point. Essentially, they're saying my job sucks, so everyone else's should suck, too. It's been stunning to hear such anti-union garbage from supposed progresives.

by Scott Shields on Thu Dec 22, 2005 at 01:28:25 AM EST
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Join a union! (none / 0)

What angers me are people who say, "I don't even have a pension.  Why should the transit workers get one at age 55?"

As Dave points out at Seeing the Forest, these people should join a union:

If that hasn't dawned on you yet then maybe you aren't smart enough to make a better living.

by Gary Boatwright on Fri Dec 23, 2005 at 06:19:22 AM EST
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I think the Unions in this country are responsible for building the middle class.

If you're so concerned about old people that could freeze, pressure the mta not the unions.  They live 10 yrs less than the typical person because their jobs are so difficult. All these people who claim to care about the poor, don't care at all that the working class and poor can't afford to live in New York City anymore.  Why do you think so many port authority workers were living in New Jersey on 9/11. This is a self serving complaint. "OH, my underpaid maid can't afford a cab to scrub my toilet!"

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by Dameocrat on Thu Dec 22, 2005 at 08:29:23 AM EST
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Hey,
 other unions did show support. They were overwhelmingly in support of the strike and were at all the rallies leading up to it: PSC, SEIU,and others were very visibly out in support on the picket lines, which all of our unions attended. Unfortunately, because the strike was a surprise to most of us, most unions - including the TWU - were not ready with an on-the-ground 'educate the public" solidarity campaign.
 
by redbecca on Fri Dec 23, 2005 at 09:16:01 AM EST
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