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Josh TPM (none / 0)

Many of Josh's analyses are insightful, e.g. on Social Security.  But his political choices are disasterous, e.g. his strong endorsement of Lieberman.  And let's not forget he supported the invasion of Iraq.  "Fool me once..."  

Yes, that Josh.  Look it up.  E.g., www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/001684.php .  He wrote in October, 2002:
"Let me recommend a book to you in very strong terms. It's called The Threatening Storm: The Case for Invading Iraq by Ken Pollack.  ... [A]t the end of the day he thinks that the only real option is to topple Saddam's regime and that the only real way to do that is by force.  Now, I know many regular TPM readers don't agree at all with that proposition. It's one I find both deeply troubling and, I think, inescapable."  

To listen to him now about Simon Rosenberg would invoke "shame on you."  

by Roger on Fri Jan 28, 2005 at 05:42:26 PM EST

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The idea that Saddam needed to go is hard to argue with, and the idea that it required force is absolutely true. If I'd believed for a second that the war was about cleaning up the mess we helped make during the Cold War, I probably would have been for it. I'll bet some of the rest of the developed world would have pitched in, as well.

The problem lies in the fact that the Cheney-Rumsfeld axis carried it out in a way that was calculated not to produce a free Iraq, but an client state, dependent on the US for survival and therefore compliant with multinational corporate interests. People who were too optimistic/gullible to realize this can be forgiven (though running one of them for President was a lousy idea). I'd say Josh deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Are we safer yet?
by catastrophile on Fri Jan 28, 2005 at 06:18:13 PM EST
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Josh is a DLC democrat in the worst sense of that term.  It's no surprise that he's endorsed Rosenberg.
by eRobin on Fri Jan 28, 2005 at 07:27:47 PM EST
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Roger,

Could you please cite, quote or link to Marhsall's "strong endorsement of Lieberman."  I don't remember that one.  But maybe it was there.

Also, it's pretty clear he's acknowledged he was wrong on the invasion of Iraq.  It's not as good as being right in the first place, but it's more than a lot of liberal hawks can say, to say nothing of those on the other side.

This is no brief for his endorsement of Rosenberg.  I just don't think you're being fair to Marshall.

by Lomonaco on Fri Jan 28, 2005 at 11:38:50 PM EST
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