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Re: RE: Dean for Chair, Hillary for President (none / 0)

Maybe "unhinged" was the wrong word. I just think he sometimes lacks the proper tact. Dean is very straitforward and that's a great thing on a personal level, but in politics that can be a liability. It really hurt him in IA when everyone was evaluating him for his overall electability VS chimpy.

I agree completely with working together. In fact I'm an independent, a centrist, and consider myself an ally to liberals. I wanted Bush gone as much as any of you.

I also do not understand the hate directed within the party. Republicans coalesce around their own, which is why they are so successful.

As for BRock, I didn't think he was bashing at all. Just has a different of opinion. If Dean was the nominee in 2004 or 2008 would he have voted for him anyway? I bet he would.

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by Vote Hillary 2008 on Mon Jan 24, 2005 at 04:19:12 AM EST
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Re: RE: Dean for Chair, Hillary for President (3.00 / 1)

You know, back in 1948, Dean's exact brand of "unhinged" won Harry Truman the greatest upset victory in presidential history. "Give 'Em Hell Harry," remember?
by craverguy on Mon Jan 24, 2005 at 04:24:13 AM EST
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Dean = Truman? (none / 0)

I couldn't agree more.

Dean is the Harry Truman of our time, at least stylistically. One might also compare him to Teddy Roosevelt, again on style points.

The only difference: Truman and TR didn't have a ravenous broadcast media licking its chops every time he picked up a microphone (or a uni-directional mic at a post-caucus rally ;-).

So, one might argue that perhaps Dean is a throwback --- a presidential candidate who would have "translated" better in a bygone era.

Or, as I'd like to hope, perhaps Dean is just ahead of his time. After all, the pendulum of history may swing back in Dean's direction, especially if he is given credit for the resurgence of the Democratic Party in 2006 and then 2008.

by Fiat Lux on Mon Jan 24, 2005 at 04:32:19 AM EST
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Re: RE: Dean for Chair, Hillary for President (none / 0)

Let me add my voice to working together.

I really hope people do not misinterpret my concerns for Dean's viability as an effective spokesperson as 'bashing Dean'.  I like the guy.  I just don't think he should be the face/voice of the party.  I hope my expressed opinions have been thoughtful and somewhat fleshed out.  But, I'll be especially careful to refrain from 'Dean bashing'.  The 'Hillary bashing' however is a bit much in these parts.

by BRockNYLA on Mon Jan 24, 2005 at 11:15:07 AM EST
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Been to DailyKos lately? (none / 0)

THAT'S Hillary bashing. They'd make Free Republic proud.
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by Vote Hillary 2008 on Tue Jan 25, 2005 at 12:01:32 AM EST
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