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Re: My email to Senator Clinton (none / 0)

I'm sending one tonight. I don't really think Hillary or the DLC cares. This is a power play, pure and simple. They aren't interested in the grassroots and the see the netroots as a threat. If Dean doesn't get the chair position I'm ready to move on. I'll keep attending DFA for a while, but my patience is really running on vapors.
by Gary Boatwright on Sun Jan 23, 2005 at 06:28:11 PM EST
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I'm not ready to move on (none / 0)

If Dean get's pincushioned again, I'm not going anywhere. If they are afraid of us now, just wait. They try to undermine the guy who still can fire up their base the weekend after George get's sworn in and they are in for an uprising from the bottom up.

We are their base. They need us.

Witty comment goes here...
by michael in chicago on Sun Jan 23, 2005 at 06:36:18 PM EST
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Re: I'm not ready to move on (none / 0)

Naw..as the Kerry campaign showed they would rather destroy the party than to hand over the reigns.
Besides telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate our children and, die, the GOP has done a fine job of getting gov't out of our lives.
by Parker on Sun Jan 23, 2005 at 06:38:25 PM EST
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Re: I'm not ready to move on (none / 0)

I see another DLC hatchet job on Dean as a complete rejection of the grassroots. The reason I am ready to Move On is that this would be the last signal I need that the Democratic leadership is not interested in reform unless it occurs on their terms; with them still in charge of the purse strings, the ATM and the disbursement of contributions.

I was ready to accept Rosenberg if the process was reasonably transparent and legitimate. With Fineman's article the DNC has lost the legitimacy of grassroots support. They are sending a message loud and clear that the consultancy elite has replaced smokefilled back rooms and the consultancy favorites will continue to be paid on commission.

by Gary Boatwright on Sun Jan 23, 2005 at 08:39:01 PM EST
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Jolly: that's only two strikes... there's one left (none / 0)

Jolly -

I understand how you feel. But consider this:

If Dean loses the chairmanship to a backroom deal orchestrated by DLC types, he is going to be that much harder to stop in 2008. He'll be --- and we'll be --- the DLC's worst nightmare.

That dynamic, in addition to the potential financial and foreign policy calamities of the next four years will only further bolster Dean as the only politician telling the truth. We're talking somethin akin to Teddy Roosevelt and trustbusting --- except now the "trust" is the Democratic Party. And Dean is TR.

That's why I say this is a win/win. We'll know exactly where we stand on Feb. 12 and we'll be able to strategize for 2008 accordingly.

Now, if Dean runs for president in 2008 and he gets screwed again, then you have every justification to leave the Party on a "three strikes (2004, 2005, 2008) and I'm outta here" basis.

Change does not come easy. Just ask the abolitionists. Or the suffragists. Or the civil rights movement. So, let's see what Dean does if he loses the chairmanship. I suspect --- given how tremendous his grassroots support is --- that he'll come back stronger than ever and ask all of us to stick with him. I, for one, will have his back until 2008.

by Fiat Lux on Mon Jan 24, 2005 at 12:01:27 AM EST
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Re: My email to Senator Clinton (none / 0)

May not help, but it feels better than doing nothing.

I suspect you're right about it being a power play, which is why I ended it the way I did.

We shall see. My patience, as noted, ran out long ago. I'm almost certain I'll get my political heart broken again, then I'll have to decide if I stay Indy or go Green.

Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.
by boadicea on Sun Jan 23, 2005 at 06:43:24 PM EST
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