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It seems to me we need to recalibrate everything. (none / 0)

I really, really think we're looking at voter fraud here. Bev Harris over at blackboxvoting.org had a little Q&A over at democraticunderground.com and she says she can prove it. It's only a matter of figuring out its scale.

Florida, Ohio, and New Mexico -- at least -- will be back in the Kerry column by Inauguration Day.

This will be a complete disaster for the right wing. The true believers will circle the wagons and become even more belligerant than ever, but to a lot of Bush voters they're just going to look really sad. The center of political discourse will then make a dramatic shift to the left.

This could be the best thing that has ever happened to us.

by goldengreek on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 09:00:39 PM EST

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Bev thinks there may have actually been a sting operation involved. It's been obvious for months that the intelligence community's at war with the Bush administration, and the first thing I noticed about this whole theft is how sloppy it was. I think that was done on purpose.
by goldengreek on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 09:03:49 PM EST
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It seems to me we need to recalibrate (none / 0)

Yes.  If there was significant &/or widespread fraud -- and frankly that is what we would have to expect from what we know of these people -- then all these arguments about why we 'lost' evaporate.  We didn't lose.
by larryrant on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 09:22:20 PM EST
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Re: It seems to me ... (none / 0)

I am sorry, but it seems to me that you are grasping at straws. I would like as much as anyone around here to have this election result go away like a bad dream. but how can that REALLY happen? Let's say that this person has what they consider to be proof of a fraud sufficient to have altered the outcome. What is the process to actually translate that to overturning the election? Wouldn't john Kerry himself have to file suit? I think there's about a snowball's chance in hell of that. At the end of the day, we have to be talking about something so egregious and so clear that either Anthony Kenmnedy or Sandra Day O'Connor will be compelkked to deny the candidate they were supporting the Presidency over it. Is it really THAT good? I doubt it.....
by blerb on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 09:53:18 PM EST
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Re: It seems to me we need to recalibrate everythi (none / 0)

Ahhh how I pray that you are correct. Sorry to burst your bubble (I truly am because I would love to believe this) but the election ended. I do agree that Bush stole it but its not changing, especially with the concession of Kerry. If Kerry had fought for all the votes things may have been different but things are over :(
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by NCdemocrat on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 09:56:30 PM EST
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Use the Open Thread (none / 0)

There is a place for this discussion, but not on this thread.
by Chris Bowers on Sun Nov 07, 2004 at 01:32:46 AM EST
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