The Fala Speech

The opposition in this year has already imported into this campaign a very interesting thing, because it is foreign. They have imported the propaganda technique invented by the dictators abroad. Remember, a number of years ago, there was a book, Mein Kampf, written by Hitler himself. The technique was all set out in Hitler's book - and it was copied by the aggressors of Italy and Japan. According to that technique, you should never use a small falsehood; always a big one, for its very fantastic nature would make it more credible - if only you keep repeating it over and over and over again. - Franklin Delano Roosevelt, The Fala Speech

With nearly one in five Americans believing that Barack Obama is a Muslim and with 55 percent thinking that he is a socialist, I have been reflecting on FDR and in particular a speech he gave on September 23, 1944 to a meeting of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Chauffeurs, Warehousemen and Helpers of America. It was an election speech with FDR in the midst of a presidential campaign against Thomas Dewey. That speech is remembered as the Fala Speech as it references FDR's Scottish Terrier, Fala.

Then, as now, the GOP did what it does best - it employed the big lie. Among the lies the GOP was plying then was that the Great Depression was caused by Democrats even though the stock market crash came in October 1929 when Herbert Hoover was President. But while elephants never forget, the noxious pachyderm that is the GOP hopes that you do. Both Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota and Rep. Steve Austria of Ohio had the temerity to suggest last year that FDR caused the Great Depression. Nor is that unlike the meme that the GOP has floated now that the cause of our economic trouble now is all attributed to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The parallels on the big lie are so striking that they now even include the White House pet. In 1944, GOP operatives accused FDR of leaving Fala in the Aleutian Islands and then sending a destroyer back to find him. In Obama's drama, Bo, the Portuguese Water Dog, stands accused of being shipped by the White House on a separate jet to Maine on purpose. That's not some nutcase blog pushing that misinformed meme, it is a group with ties to Rick Perry called GOP-USA. GOP-USA is described by its owner Bobby Eberle as a news/information/commentary outlet, and is, as its name implies, a Republican and "conservative" advocacy group. The reason that Bo was flown separately is that the President's B-747, the normal Air Force One, was too large to land at the the small Hancock County-Bar Harbor Airport in Trenton, Maine. Instead, several smaller craft flew the President and his detail. Bo went with one of the President's agents, his personal aide Reggie Love. Hardly some conspiracy to defraud the taxpayers.

As with the right wing noise machine generally, lies are produced daily if not hourly in the hopes one sticks in the national media. The disinformation over the Islamic Cultural Center in lower Manhattan is, for example, traceable to Pamela Geller's Atlas Shrugged website and Robert Spencer's Jihad Watch website.

There are many differences between FDR and Barack Obama, and let's be frank, Obama lacks the humor and grace of FDR but the President needs to find his voice if not his spine. His strange and perturbing aversion to political confrontation is about to sink the Democratic party, the progressive agenda for perhaps the rest of this decade.

Some fights are worth having and all lies are worth exposing. The failure to fight back on these lies and to mock the Republicans into submission has been Obama's greatest flaw. Bipartisanship is dead, it has been dead for a generation. To believe much of  the GOP sane and rational is insane and irrational. Pick just about any Republican candidate for office and the insanity drips like wax on a candle. Sharron Angle thinks our laws are based on the Bible, Rand Paul thinks it is okay to discriminate on the basis of race, Dan Maes thinks a bike-sharing program is the path to UN tyranny, the Florida GOP wants to bring back internment camps for illegal immigrants, the Iowa GOP rants on about a non-existent 13th Amendment that banned honorific titles, the Idaho GOP wants to bring back gold and silver currency, the Maine GOP is against the UN Treaty of the Child that tackles child soldiers and child-trafficking, the Wyoming GOP opposes all government competition with private enterprise including the Post Office. At some point, the President has to call them out or he will be confined to the trash bin of history.

A video excerpt is below and you can listen to the full speech here.

If Obama is to save his Presidency, he'd better take a few lessons from Roosevelt and quick. The full text of the Fala Speech is below the fold.

WELL, here we are together again - after four years - and what years they have been! You know, I am actually four years older, which is a fact that seems to annoy some people. In fact, in the mathematical field there are millions of Americans who are more than eleven years older than when we started in to clear up the mess that was dumped in our laps in 1933.

We all know that certain people who make it a practice to depreciate the accomplishments of labor - who even attack labor as unpatriotic - they keep this up usually for three years and six months in a row. But then, for some strange reason they change their tune- every four years- just before election day. When votes are at stake, they suddenly discover that they really love labor and that they are anxious to protect labor from its old friends.

I got quite a laugh, for example - and I am sure that you did - when I read this plank in the Republican platform adopted at their National Convention in Chicago last July: "The Republican Party accepts the purposes of the National Labor Relations Act, the Wage and Hour Act, the Social Security Act and all other Federal statutes designed to promote and protect the welfare of American working men and women, and we promise a fair and just administration of these laws."

You know, many of the Republican leaders and Congressmen and candidates, who shouted enthusiastic approval of that plank in that Convention Hall would not even recognize these progressive laws if they met them in broad daylight. Indeed, they have personally spent years of effort and energy - and much money - in fighting every one of those laws in the Congress, and in the press, and in the courts, ever since this Administration began to advocate them and enact them into legislation. That is a fair example of their insincerity and of their inconsistency.

The whole purpose of Republican oratory these days seems to be to switch labels. The object is to persuade the American people that the Democratic Party was responsible for the 1929 crash and the depression, and that the Republican Party was responsible for all social progress under the New Deal.

Now, imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery - but I am afraid that in this case it is the most obvious common or garden variety of fraud.

Of course, it is perfectly true that there are enlightened, liberal elements in the Republican Party, and they have fought hard and honorably to bring the Party up to date and to get it in step with the forward march of American progress. But these liberal elements were not able to drive the Old Guard Republicans from their entrenched positions.

Can the Old Guard pass itself off as the New Deal? I think not.

We have all seen many marvelous stunts in the circus but no performing elephant could turn a hand-spring without falling flat on his back.

I need not recount to you the centuries of history which have been crowded into these four years since I saw you last.

There were some - in the Congress and out - who raised their voices against our preparations for defense - before and after 1939 - objected to them, raised their voices against them as hysterical war mongering, who cried out against our help to the Allies as provocative and dangerous. We remember the voices. They would like to have us forget them now. But in 1940 and 1941- my, it seems a long time ago - they were loud voices. Happily they were a minority and - fortunately for ourselves, and for the world - they could not stop America.

There are some politicians who kept their heads buried deep in the sand while the storms of Europe and Asia were headed Our way, who said that the lend-lease bill "would bring an end to free government in the United States," and who said, "only hysteria entertains the idea that Germany, Italy, or Japan contemplates war on us." These very men are now asking the American people to intrust to them the conduct of our foreign policy and our military policy.

What the Republican leaders are now saying in effect is this: "Oh, just forget what we used to say, we have changed our minds now - we have been reading the public opinion polls about these things and now we know what the American people want." And they say: "Don't leave the task of making the peace to those old men who first urged it and who have already laid the foundations for it, and who have had to fight all of us inch by inch during the last five years to do it. Why, just turn it all over to us. We'll do it so skillfully - that we won't lose a single isolationist vote or a single isolationist campaign contribution."

I think there is one thing that you know: I am too old for that. I cannot talk out of both sides of my mouth at the same time.

The Government welcomes all sincere supporters of the cause of effective world collaboration in the making of a lasting peace. Millions of Republicans all over the Nation are with us - and have been with us - in our unshakable determination to build the solid structure of peace. And they too will resent this campaign talk by those who first woke up to the facts of international life a few short months ago when they began to study the polls of public opinion.

Those who today have the military responsibility for waging this war in all parts of the globe are not helped by the statements of men who, without responsibility and without' the knowledge of the facts, lecture the Chiefs of Staff of the United States as to the best means of dividing our armed forces and our military resources between the Atlantic and Pacific, between the Army and the Navy, and among the commanding generals of the different theaters of war. And I may say that those commanding generals are making good in a big way.

When I addressed you four years ago, I said, "I know that America will never be disappointed in its expectation that labor will always continue to do its share of the job we now face and do it patriotically and effectively and unselfishly."

Today we know that America has not been disappointed. In his Order of the Day when the Allied armies first landed in Normandy two months ago, General Eisenhower said: "Our home fronts have given us overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions of war."

The country knows that there is a breed of cats, luckily not too numerous, called labor-baiters. I know that there are labor baiters among the opposition who, instead of calling attention to the achievements of labor in this war, prefer to pick on the occasional strikes that have occurred - strikes that have been condemned by every responsible national labor leader. I ought to say, parenthetically, all but one. And that one labor leader, incidentally, is certainly not conspicuous among my supporters.

Labor-baiters forget that at our peak American labor and management have turned out airplanes at the rate of 109,000 a year; tanks - 57,000 a year; combat vessels - 573 a year; landing vessels, to get the troops ashore - 31,000 a year; cargo ships - 19 million tons a year - and Henry Kaiser is here tonight, I am glad to say; and small arms ammunition- oh, I can't understand it, I don't believe you can either - 23 billion rounds a year.

But a strike is news, and generally appears in shrieking headlines - and, of course, they say labor is always to blame. The fact is that since Pearl Harbor only one-tenth of one percent of man-hours have been lost by strikes. Can you beat that?

But, you know, even those candidates who burst out in election-year affection for social legislation and for labor in general, still think that you ought to be good boys and stay out of politics. And above all, they hate to see any working man or woman contribute a dollar bill to any wicked political party. Of course, it is all right for large financiers and industrialists and monopolists to contribute tens of thousands of dollars - but their solicitude for that dollar which the men and women in the ranks of labor contribute is always very touching.

They are, of course, perfectly willing to let you vote - unless you happen to be a soldier or a sailor overseas, or a merchant seaman carrying the munitions of war. In that case they have made it pretty hard for you to vote at all - for there are some political candidates who think that they may have a chance of election, if only the total vote is small enough.

And while I am on the subject of voting, let me urge every American citizen - man and woman- to use your sacred privilege of voting, no matter which candidate you expect to support. Our millions of soldiers and sailors and merchant seamen have been handicapped or prevented from voting by those politicians and candidates who think that they stand to lose by such votes. You here at home have the freedom of the ballot. Irrespective of party, you should register and vote this November. I think that is a matter of plain good citizenship.

Words come easily, but they do not change the record. You are, most of you, old enough to remember what things were like for labor in 1932.

You remember the closed banks and the breadlines and the starvation wages; the foreclosures of homes and farms, and the bankruptcies of business; the "Hoovervilles," and the young men and women of the Nation facing a hopeless, jobless future; the closed factories and mines and mills; the ruined and abandoned farms; the stalled railroads and the empty docks; the blank despair of a whole Nation--and the utter impotence of the Federal Government.

You remember the long, hard road, with its gains and its setbacks, which we have traveled together ever since those days. Now there are some politicians who do not remember that far back, and there are some who remember but find it convenient to forget. No, the record is not to be washed away that easily.

The opposition in this year has already imported into this campaign a very interesting thing, because it is foreign. They have imported the propaganda technique invented by the dictators abroad. Remember, a number of years ago, there was a book, Mein Kampf, written by Hitler himself. The technique was all set out in Hitler's book - and it was copied by the aggressors of Italy and Japan. According to that technique, you should never use a small falsehood; always a big one, for its very fantastic nature would make it more credible - if only you keep repeating it over and over and over again.

Well, let us take some simple illustrations that come to mind. For example, although I rubbed my eyes when I read it, we have been told that it was not a Republican depression, but a Democratic depression from which this Nation was saved in 1933 - that this Administration this one today - is responsible for all the suffering and misery that the history books and the American people have always thought had been brought about during the twelve ill-fated years when the Republican party was in power.

Now, there is an old and somewhat lugubrious adage which says: "Never speak of rope in the house of a man who has been hanged." In the same way, if I were a Republican leader speaking to a mixed audience, the last word in the whole dictionary that I think I would use is that word "depression."

You know, they pop up all the time. For another example, I learned - much to my amazement - that the policy of this Administration was to keep men in the Army when the war was over, because there might be no jobs for them in civil life.

Well, the very day that this fantastic charge was first made, a formal plan for the method of speedy discharge from the Army had already been announced by the War Department - a plan based on the wishes of the soldiers themselves.

This callous and brazen falsehood about demobilization did, of course, a very simple thing; it was an effort to stimulate fear among American mothers and wives and sweethearts. And, incidentally, it was hardly calculated to bolster the morale of our soldiers and sailors and airmen who are fighting our battles all over the world.

But perhaps the most ridiculous of these campaign falsifications is the one that this Administration failed to prepare for the war that was coming. I doubt whether even Goebbels would have tried that one. For even he would never have dared hope that the voters of America had already forgotten that many of the Republican leaders in the Congress and outside the Congress tried to thwart and block nearly every attempt that this Administration made to warn our people and to arm our Nation. Some of them called our 50,000 airplane program fantastic. Many of those very same leaders who fought every defense measure that we proposed are still in control of the Republican party - look at their names - were in control of its National Convention in Chicago, and would be in control of the machinery of the Congress and of the Republican party, in the event of a Republican victory this fall.

These Republican leaders have not been content with attacks on me, or my wife, or on my sons. No, not content with that, they now include my little dog, Fala. Well, of course, I don't resent attacks, and my family doesn't resent attacks, but Fala does resent them. You know, Fala is Scotch, and being a Scottie, as soon as he learned that the Republican fiction writers in Congress and out had concocted a story that I had left him behind on the Aleutian Islands and had sent a destroyer back to find him - at a cost to the taxpayers of two or three, or eight or twenty million dollars- his Scotch soul was furious. He has not been the same dog since. I am accustomed to hearing malicious falsehoods about myself - such as that old, worm-eaten chestnut that I have represented myself as indispensable. But I think I have a right to resent, to object to libelous statements about my dog.

Well, I think we all recognize the old technique. The people of this country know the past too well to be deceived into forgetting. Too much is at stake to forget. There are tasks ahead of us which we must now complete with the same will and the same skill and intelligence and devotion that have already led us so far along the road to victory.

There is the task of finishing victoriously this most terrible of all wars as speedily as possible and with the least cost in lives.

There is the task of setting up international machinery to assure that the peace, once established, will not again be broken.

And there is the task that we face here at home - the task of reconverting our economy from the purposes of war to the purposes of peace.

These peace-building tasks were faced once before, nearly a generation ago. They were botched by a Republican administration. That must not happen this time. We will not let it happen this time.

Fortunately, we do not begin from scratch. Much has been done. Much more is under way. The fruits of victory this time will not be apples sold on street corners.

Many months ago, this Administration set up the necessary machinery for an orderly peacetime demobilization. The Congress has passed much more legislation continuing the agencies needed for demobilization - with additional powers to carry out their functions.

I know that the American people - business and labor and agriculture - have the same will to do for peace what they have done for war. And I know that they can sustain a national income that will assure full production and full employment under our democratic system of private enterprise, with Government encouragement and aid whenever and wherever that is necessary.

The keynote of all that we propose to do in reconversion can be found in the one word jobs. We shall lease or dispose of our Government-owned plants and facilities and our surplus war property and land, on the basis of how they can best be operated by private enterprise to give jobs to the greatest number.

We shall follow a wage policy that will sustain the purchasing power of labor - for that means more production and more jobs.

You and I know that the present policies on wages and prices were conceived to serve the needs of the great masses of the people. They stopped inflation. They kept prices on a relatively stable level. Through the demobilization period, policies will be carried out with the same objective in mind -to serve the needs of the great masses of the people.

This is not the time in which men can be forgotten as they were in the Republican catastrophe that we inherited. The returning soldiers, the workers by their machines, the farmers in the field, the miners, the men and women in offices and shops, do not intend to be forgotten.

No, they know that they are not surplus. Because they know that they are America. We must set targets and objectives for the future which will seem impossible - like the airplanes - to those who live in and are weighted down by the dead past.

We are even now organizing the logistics of the peace, just as Marshall and King and Arnold, MacArthur, Eisenhower, and Nimitz are organizing the logistics of this war.

I think that the victory of the American people and their allies in this war will be far more than a victory against Fascism and reaction and the dead hand of despotism of the past. The victory of the American people and their allies in this war will be a victory for democracy. It will constitute such an affirmation of the strength and power and vitality of government by the people as history has never before witnessed.

And so, my friends, we have had affirmation of the vitality of democratic government behind us, that demonstration of its resilience and its capacity for decision and for action - we have that knowledge of our own strength and power - we move forward with God's help to the greatest epoch of free achievement by free men that the world has ever known.

Tags: FDR, US History, Barack Obama, Obama Administration (all tags)



Obama needs the strength of purpose of FDR

Many progressives like myself grow tired of Obama's insistence on trying to get cooperation with the GOP and its leaders. It is not going to happen--unfortunately Obama dreams on--he is much like Clinton in 1992-1994 in that he has such a big ego that he thinks he can force the GOP to cooperate. I fear that we will go down the same path in 2010 that we had in 1994 -- the loss of Congressional majority for the Dems. To bad Obama is so self focused that he may have to battle a GOP majority next year. All of us lose in that situation just as we did under Clinton....his only salvation is to get out and campaign like hell and move his huge campaign funding machine to help local Democrats...

by hddun2008 2010-08-19 04:37PM | 0 recs
RE: Obama needs the strength of purpose of FDR

This doesn't go far enough, I'm afraid. This very convenient narrative presupposes that Barack Obama would have been willing to go full throttle with Medicare-for-All, an Afghanistan pullout, and every other progressive dream list item, if only he could have persuaded Susan Collins and Lindsey Graham, or only if he had 75 Democratic senators instead of 60 (for a while). But what about TARP? Obama fiendishly corralled Democratic votes, and Rahm Emmanuel, still a congressman, was fulsome in his praise for Sen. Obama for making that monstrous bailout happen. Or what about how he shamelessly walked back his strident and cynical--but correct!--position on NAFTA that was crafted to fit the important primary state of Ohio (where he got his ass handed to him regardless)?

Barack Obama isn't with us. And he hasn't been for a very long time, if ever. He's not the only one, obviously. This presidency, from a policy standpoint, I think, would have played out entirely the same had either Clinton been in office instead. 

But this notion of Obama's fealty to the high notion of bipartisanship isn't convincing, and is only a way of making excuses for the guy. This White House knows how to play hardball, and it does so all the time, in order to keep wavering, oblivious Democrats from wandering from the prevailing Wall Street line. 

by Jack Landsman 2010-08-19 07:28PM | 0 recs
He cant

This election and possibly the next will be about the economy. Since there has been no economic recovery in terms of jobs and the economy is stagnant, the ruling party will be booted. Thats how it goes. Obama's mistake was in part, he catered to wall street in terms of bailouts and to the insurance industry on so called health reform. So while those are the top benefitted, those in the middle and bottom are being slaughtered. The Democratic party will be butchered in November and barring some spectacular recovery and the GOP choosing a bad candidate in 2012, Obama will not be reelected, its that simple.

by BuckeyeBlogger 2010-08-19 05:58PM | 0 recs
Suddenly Buckeye's a liberal

too bad you weren't complainig about the insurance industry when we were trying to get your support for the public option you want to kill.

by DTOzone 2010-08-19 09:59PM | 0 recs
RE: He cant

he had to bail out the banks, because if they went under, so would the whole economy have gone under. I think he should have raised taxes on the rich and given the poor and middle class tax cuts earlier in his presidency. Waiting until now makes it a "tax hike" right before the election.

by Lakrosse 2010-08-20 01:36AM | 0 recs
Wait a's a Democratic Congress. Overwhelmingly.

To read your post, you'd think that Obama was some lonely, heroic figure in Washington, battling a hostile and powerful Republican Congress.

Only problem with that narrative is that the Congress has huge Democratic majorities, which have given this President everything he asked for.

It was Obama's choice to ignore the economy in favor of his "pet projects", i.e., the issues which he felt would secure his place in history. Health care, for example---where he focused on access instead of costs. Now he's facing massive unemployment, and an ugly recession. Double dip recession? What a joke....everyone knows we never got out of the first one.

Obama's rhetoric has been to constantly call this "the greatest economic downturn since the Great Depression". But instead of working to fight it, he plays basketball and golf, and goes on vacations. There has never been a sense of urgency from Obama when it comes to restoring our economy. Outsourcing an $800 billion stimulus bill to a bunch of parochial, greedy Congressmen doesn't substitute for intelligent economic policy.

Can anyone seriously say that this President has shown a strong commitment to fighting the recession? Are voters in 2012 really going to look at Obama and say, "man, I want four more years of this!" I don't think so.

The problem is not what you call "the right wing noise machine", or that this man is being prevented from getting his policies implemented. The inconvenient truth here is that whether you're talking about his trillion dollar stimulus.....or his health care bill, or whatever, Obama DID get his initiatives passed. And they're failing.


by BJJ Fighter 2010-08-19 07:24PM | 1 recs
RE: Wait a's a Democratic Congress. Overwhelmingly.

The post is about the messaging and the framing of Obama as Muslim as a Socialist etc. It is about the right wing echo chamber and pointing to the fact that Roosevelt too faced one, albeit a more limited given it was the 1940s. The problem of a right wing reaction has been with us for some time now.

by Charles Lemos 2010-08-19 07:29PM | 0 recs
RE: Wait a's a Democratic Congress. Overwhelmingly.

And another's "Scottish Terrier", not "Scotch." Hate to nitpick, but as the owner of two Scotties, I just can't let it pass....

From what I've read, Fala really was a wonderful dog. I've read a couple of Roosevelt biographies that suggest FDR had a stronger emotional connection with Fala than he had with Eleanor.


by BJJ Fighter 2010-08-19 10:43PM | 0 recs
RE: Wait a's a Democratic Congress. Overwhelmingly.

Happy to make the edit. I've never known any really. There's a pair in my neighborhood but I'm  more a sighthound and hunting dog person. The last dog I had was a Pomerarian though. Thinking about a Portuguese Water Dog mostly because a friend has one and she's a joy. Not ready for another puppy though.

Well Eleanor was on the road so often and that relationship was strained after FDR's affair in 1918 with Lucy Mercer. Eleanor offered a divorce but Franklin's mother intervened forcing Franklin to break it off with Ms. Mercer who was Eleanor's social secretary. Of course, FDR came down with polio shortly thereafter.

FDR also maintained contact with Ms. Mercer in letters throughout the 1920s and only broke contact after he became President. At the end, Roosevelt's daughter brought Lucy to see Franklin in Warm Springs as FDR was dying. Indeed, it was Lucy who was with FDR when he died.

No doubt Franklin and Eleanor were a political marriage unlike any in the country's history perhaps only rivalled by John & Abagail who adored and lived for each other and Bill and Hillary who have had a more conflicted relationship. But Eleanor really redefined the role of the First Lady. With FDR's mobility limited (and the extent hidden to the public), Eleanor was his ambassador to the nation. She was also the progressive of the two. I do think she pulled her husband leftward.

by Charles Lemos 2010-08-19 11:08PM | 0 recs
RE: Wait a's a Democratic Congress. Overwhelmingly.

Yes, Fala rode right beside Mrs. Roosevelt in the President's funeral cortege. When he died, he was buried next to his master in the Rose Garden at Hyde Park. Obviously, I was gratified to see a bronze statue of Fala when I visited the FDR Memorial in DC a couple of years ago.

Portugese Water Dogs are great companions, but they do require a lot of exercise, and grooming can be a challenge. They are like Scotties in one aspect of their disposition: they typically bond with one, maybe two people max. Very much an owner's dog.

Ike had two Scotties (Caacie and Telek) when he was Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in North Africa. President Reagan had two Scotties (Scotch and Soda) during his marriage to Jane Wyman.

Good luck in your search for a new dog. To paraprhase Harry Truman, if you really want a friend in this life, get a dog!


by BJJ Fighter 2010-08-21 04:15PM | 0 recs
Thinking of '34 midterms...

very true. eleanor was the one who prodded fdr to do more. have u seen franklin and eleanor- the acclaimed tv miniseries on the roosevelts. mand that is one hell of a pic- very accurate.

on charlie rose last night they talked about reforming the senate. yall should watch it. it made me sad. a point was brought up about fdr: in 34- the midterms- millions were without work. millions. fdr was getting slammed by left and right that he hadnt done enough or too much. yet the voters- perhaps more trusting of govt then than now- trusted the dems to keep on trying. today it seems perhaps too many want a magic pill. u know- a quick joystick war or  a pill to melt those pounds. in 2 yrs americans appear to have decided they wont give dems more time to keep trying to fix the economy. post watergate syndrome perhaps?

obama should have done a bigger stim bill etc.. but he didnt yet recognizes the need for more. he needs to come out with a plan- u know if dems are elected to hold congress for another 2 yrs who is the plan for jobs. maybe then people just might give dems another chance to keep on trying. hell the gop wont.

by art3 2010-08-19 11:49PM | 1 recs


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