There’s Gotta Be a Morning After

  • Barack Obama is a wretched excuse for a president and leader of the Democratic Party. Nevermind this nonsense about a blanket “anti-incumbent” fevah. This was a repudiation of our party’s leaders and their policies. Instead of offering voters anything in the way of changed course—mortgage moratorium? Timothy Geithner’s head?—the White House decided to essentially ride out the clock. The thing about congressional politics is this: most representatives are hack politicians—one way or the other. Not every Democrat that voted for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, corporatist health care “reform,” etc., was Barney Frank or Obama. That is to say, left-wing agents of finance capital. The vast majority of these folk merely toe the line. Consequently the onus is on this president and he sacrificed a great deal of decent people last night. Many of them would have been willing to go down for a hell of a lot more than Mitt Romney’s health care plan. This man has to go.
  • A Republican rout of 60+ seats in the House of Representatives will probably retire Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Mrs. Pelosi was—nay, is—a tough broad, a trailblazer and a savvy operator. Over the past two years, her considerable talent has been in the service of either flawed or outright failed policies and that’s regrettable. I continue to regard Mrs. Pelosi as a relatively decent establishmentarian who would have been fantastic if given a real Democratic president on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue.
  • Grandpa Edwin is Governor of California again. Ironically, I suspect the failure of Proposition 19 will engender the least bit of griping from the progressive base. For all intents and purposes, ganja is already legal in the Golden State. There isn’t much either Gov. Brown or a Gov. Meg Whitman could have done to arrest the systemic problems the state faces otherwise, so it’s a wash.
  • Florida’s Marco Rubio bested both Charlie Crist, the orange governor who pole-vaulted to independence, and Rep. Kendrick Meek, the good guy. Once again President Obama disgraced himself. (Granted, Mr. Meek was an early, enthusiastic and loyal supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008.) There wasn’t any reason to believe Marco Rubio would lose in either a two- or three-way race and many of us said so. Kendrick Meek may be a meek, small-time politician, but there’s no reason why Gov. Christ had to siphon as many Democratic votes from the Democratic nominee as he did. Meek’s supposed vulnerability was an entirely self-fulfilling prophecy. Barack Obama’s condescension towards the only possible black U.S. senator—aren’t we supposed to care about that kind of thing?—was stunning. “Don't say I never gave you anything,” Obama quipped after buying Kendrick Meek a sandwich while in town for a token visit.
  • In 1952 Barry AuH2O ousted Senate Majority Leader Ernest McFarland in Arizona. Harry Reid managed to avoid the same fate. This is a crowning achievement, to be sure, but pales to the point of transparency in comparison with him making a liar out of Jack Landsman. The latter was quite certain the harlot from Reno, Sharron Angle, would dispatch Mr. Reid electorally. Guess that “2nd Amendment” solution is back on the table, eh?
  • What else can possibly be said for our patron saint Russ Feingold—murked last night by a random reactionary named “Johnson” or some such? Ultimately Sen. Feingold has no one to blame but himself. In conservative districts around the country, numerous Democrats took the extraordinary step of running against their own House speaker or professing support for John McCain in 2008. And it was necessary. For his part, Russ Feingold should have thrown in with the left opposition to Barack Obama months ago. Obama and Feingold are not the same kind of liberals, but he nevertheless allowed himself to be caricatured as such. Instead of going out like a boss—a fitting end to the lone dissenter against the Patriot Act in October 2001—Russ Feingold went out like a punk, carping about outside expenditures, as if anyone cared about process. I want to believe he’ll be back in some fashion or another.

Tags: 2010 midterms, Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Nancy Pelosi, Proposition 19, Jerry Brown, Marco Rubio, Kendrick Meek, Harry Reid, Sharron Angle, Russ Feingold (all tags)

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Barack Obama's Great

What you just saw, wasn't fucking. It was prostitution.

This election is historic. This was the most money ever spent in any off year election - far more than the largest ever, in American history.

 

If you don't know the difference between a good fuck, and a whore. Then you're probably a republican.

by Trey Rentz 2010-11-03 11:18AM | 0 recs
NoQuarterUSA

I dislike Obama as much as the next guy but this particular diary seems to take MyDD on the path of NoQuarterUSA.

I think Jerome should revoke Front Page privileges of Jack Landsman. The line which tipped the scale was the "Presidents I would like to fuck" comment - it seems to have been removed now, but it was there earlier.

 

by gaf 2010-11-03 11:43PM | 0 recs
RE: NoQuarterUSA

"I think Jerome should revoke Front Page privileges of Jack Landsman. The line which tipped the scale was the "Presidents I would like to fuck" comment - it seems to have been removed now, but it was there earlier."

It's not enough to say that; you have to fill out the necessary paperwork. You're welcome to borrow my pen, too, because I am still Christian and we have duties.

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-04 05:33AM | 0 recs
RE: NoQuarterUSA


I am so disheartened by the state of this blog right now. We have an amazingly strong candidate preparing to win the Democratic Nomination, a dynamic, forward thinking leader who is bringing untold thousands of new Democratic voters into the process and day after day we are treated to featured diaries tearing him down in a base and unpleasant way. It is obviously one thing to pick a horse in the race and fair enough to do so, but when will enough be enough. At this point if Hillary wins the nomination it will come through means so controversial that it will tear the party apart. Please, I am begging you guys in leadership on this blog, change the tone of this blog. Make it more respectful towards Obama and towards the process overall. Make it a place where people can discuss the ins and outs of how to get a democrat elected in November, not a place where we needlessly weaken our almost certain general election candidate. Anyone who agrees please respond and forward and if you don't agree let me know (try to be respectful--I know that is a stretch right now). LEts get it together people!!!!

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note this is from 2.2008 and this guy is saying that critism of obama CAN NOT  be allowed but then goes on to say that "At this point if Hillary wins the nomination it will come through means so controversial that it will tear the party apart. " (ie hes not voting for her and shes so evil and shes destroying the party.)

go back to your moose blog you blind controlling fake!

your type truly sicken me.  you think its just fine for you to say whatever you wish - but anyone who disagrees with you - if they criticize your precious - they are horrible - as you wrote "self loathing" people bent on destroying the world and killing puppies.  

if you dont like his diary - fine - go write your own arsehole!

your a passive aggressive jerk and its your type who destroyed this blog.  (you and your other royalist censor pals and fellow jerks like jonathon singer who agreed with your hypocritical fakery and thought like you do and banned anyone who ctiticized obama but allowed your real filth to stand.)

i mean how dare you call this man "self loathing"?

i mean what the f?

fu you pretentious deceitful passive aggressive pr%ck.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 01:57AM | 0 recs
"Worst" Democratic President, Evah...???

Where did all the good diarists go? Jonathan Singer? Charles Lemos? Josh Orton? Brit?

Instead, we have front page diarists wanting to teabag the teabag Senate candidates. Rubio couldn't get 50% of the vote. If Clinton hadn't meddled in this race, first rewarding Meek for tampering with the primary, then trying to get him to pull out, Crist would have cruised to victory. Like the proto-teabagger turd before him, Martinez, I suspect he doesn't even complete his term, let alone run for President.

And Obama, after enacting the most comprehensive democratic legislation since FDR, which was the same legislation he campaigned on, somehow is the worst democratic President evah? Wow. Some people weren't paying attention two years ago.

by NoFortunateSon 2010-11-03 11:22AM | 0 recs
RE: "Worst" Democratic President, Evah...???

boo hoo

obot back to insult the site and defend his precious too.

and i dont think that bragging about a HC bill that was nothing but a giveaway to big insurance and big pharma is worth comparing to FDR.  plus the 800 billion waisted -and only 7% went to infrastructure and most of the rest (that didnt go to foodstamps - 50 bill additional) went to insiders and pals of the congress people that wrote it.

 

worst democratic president ever?

 

at least going back to andrew johnson, before that - i dont know.

 

funny thing is

 

WE TOLD YOU ALL THAT ELECTING A GUY WHOSE PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WAS AS A PART TIME LAW LECTURER AND PART TIME STATE LEGISLATOR WAS A BAD FUCKING IDEA!

so now i simply say

 

we told you so.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 01:23PM | 2 recs
RE: "Worst" Democratic President, Evah...???

rubio is gonna be their vp 

theyll deny it and demy it

then boom

handsome - sexy cheerleader wife

a guy who speaks even better than the media pretends obama does

without a prompter!

against obama - he will pull 60% of latino vote -

which will kill even more dems 

and the legacy of obamas effect on the dem party will be the utter devastation of the democratic party

we must primary obama

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 07:06PM | 0 recs
You really don't know what you're talking about.

The more you write about politics, NFS, the more evident that you know very little about how it works:

"Rubio couldn't get 50% of the vote. If Clinton hadn't meddled in this race, first rewarding Meek for tampering with the primary, then trying to get him to pull out, Crist would have cruised to victory."

No, Rubio couldn't get 50%; he only got 49%. That in itself is pretty incredible, given that he defeated a popular sitting Governor and Congressman. Garnering approx. half the votes in such a race speaks to Rubio's dynamism and ability to communicate with the voters....and would predict a fairly bright future for him in national politics.

 

by BJJ Fighter 2010-11-03 06:18PM | 0 recs
RE: You really don't know what you're talking about.

boy he really is one uninformed clinton hating fellow huh?

obama loses us 11 governorships - 8 senators and 65 house seats and he finfs a way to blame big bill!

we sooo gotta take our party back from these twits and primary obama -

with who?

who knows...but we sure couldnt do worse.

 

 

 

 

 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 07:02PM | 0 recs
RE: You really don't know what you're talking about.

My heart wants to bring back the Clintons, but my head says to go with Jim Webb.

The problem on both sides is that we're increasingly faced with candidates that I regard as non-serious people. The elite media conspired with the p/c elite Democrats to give us Obama in 2008; they created a personna of someone who was gifted, an intellectual heavyweight. Those of us who are willing to think objectively realize that BO is an intellectual infant. Worse yet, he is immature, petulant, self-absorbed, and unwilling to ask for help when he needs it.

After 4 years of Obama and 8 years of W, people may be ready to embrace "the stature thing" again come 2012. Someone like Jim Webb would compare very favorably with Obama on our side, and with Palin/Huckabee/De Mint on the Repug side.

Grant it, there was a GOP tide yesterday. But one message that is getting overlooked is that voters clearly have no time for "non-serious" people like Joe Miller, Sharrrron Angle, O'Donnell, and Ken Buck. Maybe that will motivate some on our side to show the door to Obama/Biden, and bring in someone serious, someone who deserves to be called, "President".

 

by BJJ Fighter 2010-11-03 10:30PM | 0 recs
RE: You really don't know what you're talking about.

"My heart wants to bring back the Clintons, but..."

I'm in such agreement with this that it's stupid. I really want to believe that. But for the sake of consistency, I'm always careful to note how, with respect to policy, Obama is essentially Bill Clinton on steroids in a worse economy. In terms of political ineptitude, the Clintons had the 1994 debacle. Watching the current president on the tv this afternoon was painful. He's clearly out of his depth and he looked broken. But in fairness to President Obama, Bill Clinton's capacity for pathetic self-pity is exceeded by none ('cept maybe Sarahcuda), if we're to believe Dick Morris. Obama's temperament? "... [I]mmature, petulant, self-absorbed..." Yep. Still, I can't allow my ex-GF to skate by that easily. Up in New Hampshire, as she stared political death in the face, Hillary had a actual meltdown in the presence of voters.

God, I love the Clintons. Just like I still love, love, love Obama. It's ridiculously hard to explain. But nevermind all of that. It's immaterial. America is in decline and it's partly due to Barack Obama's policies more than anything else. Competent management isn't enough. And even if I scratch the surface there, it turns out the Hillary hype is chimera. We're engaging in fantasy; unfairly comparing Obama--a feckless, wretched president--to an idealized version of the Clintons that frankly never existed.

And yet I can't think of an alternative. I can't help but think we're going to end up with the Clintons and hope they have learned from both the 90s and the Obama experiment.

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-03 10:59PM | 1 recs
RE: "Worst" Democratic President, Evah...???

I don't do the tea-bagging. It's not quite that simple. And fwiw I edited the post. Rome thought it was tasteless and he's probably right. I shall henceforth keep my (non-political) Marco Rubio crush to myself.

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-03 07:23PM | 1 recs
RE: "Worst" Democratic President, Evah...???

That was intended as a reply to this: "... [W]e have front page diarists wanting to teabag the teabag Senate candidates."

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-03 07:24PM | 0 recs
RE: "Worst" Democratic President, Evah...???

rubio is wow

but im more hubba hubba on his wife

ex miami dolphins cheerleader

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perfect video btw

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 08:58PM | 0 recs
RE: "Worst" Democratic President, Evah...???

You were just saying what a dozen or so people here---women and men---already feel about the great Marco. When people elected Obama, they were voting with their emotions, pure and simple. When, at some point in the future, they elect Rubio, they'll be voting with something else. The puritans here just need to accept that, and to get over it.

 

by BJJ Fighter 2010-11-04 12:01PM | 0 recs
This Analysis Hits and Misses the Mark

Good points but random. 

1. Nancy Pelosi was a very good /great Speaker--look at her record--the Speaker has to marshall 250 Democrats or so individual people from all kinds of places.  Each Representative has to toe the line for his/her district--that is not easy. Do this -- you have a hole in the street in front of your house. Call your Senator--what do they do? They tell you that its not their job--they are above that pay grade and you should call your Congressman.  You do that and you will get the hole patched.   But with all that span of control, PELOSI had all her people lined up on ALL the important votes. The House was unstoppable.

Just the opposite for Harry Reid--he only had to control about 50-55 Democratic Senators plus a few independents. He fucked it up all over the place. We had the House votes for months on Healthcare in place and Nancy was ready to vote with her House Democrats.  Reid's team was almost never ready. The Senate was about as unstable as you can get. Harry Reid did his job eventually.

Lastly, lets look at the Obama/Obama team. They had maybe 5 people engaged in passing legislation.  Every time you turned around just at the point when Reid and Pelosi had the votes lined up, the Obama team caved in to the Republicans or to lobbyists or critics in the media. 

I'm like you I'm done with Obama. He has destroyed all the team work especially in local elections and huge momentum we had under Howard Dean starting in 2004. The Democrats would do well to dump him for 2012 although that is suicide because the black Democrats will feel betrayed and probably stay home.

Obama has set back our efforts here in west Houston by 20 years. His run in 2012 will most likely cause us to lose many important gains made in 2006 -- i.e. 1st Democrats in the following offices: County Sheriff, County Attorney, about 25 major County Judges and other downballot offices. The reason these offices are in danger is not Obama per se but the fact (very strange for a local organizer) that he has NO interest in supporting local races for Democrats.  He will now totally focus on getting thru the 2012 primaries.

In summary, he has no interest in helping us locally so we have no interest in him at the top of the ticket.

by hddun2008 2010-11-03 12:32PM | 2 recs
RE: This Analysis Hits and Misses the Mark

Obama should do the right thing and resign. But that would take a statesman.

by antiHyde 2010-11-03 06:16PM | 1 recs
RE: This Analysis Hits and Misses the Mark

we need to build a call for a primary challenge to Obama.

Fiengold, Dean somebody...

Ill vote for Obama if hes the nominee again - but Id sure like to not waste my vote on that guaranteed loser.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 06:56PM | 0 recs
Feel bad about quite a number of good folks

Here, at kos, and pretty much everywhere liberals nest these days. I have no clue why everyone is so distraught, of course, lamenting and despairing as almost progressives owned this catastrophe?????? Are actually things any worse today than Monday? Nope. There is still a mountebank in the White House who's not going to be any different, the two chambers will keep legislating as there was a Republican majority - albeit with a bona-fide half now. Local governments will hardly matter more, any which way. And from some of the prose in the posts above, one can get the gist already that there will be a winning cadre of mouthpieces who'll succeed in burying last night lesson. Same ole poop, different pissoires.

Naturally, two years from now, hair pulling will have real reasons, but let's wait for that tragedy to come to pass.

For the Obama's shills: ROTFLMAO. You are a vile brand of comedy - but still a good act :P

 

by totoRULES 2010-11-03 02:06PM | 2 recs
The most important thing for us now

is to figure out a way to deal with the new reality of Citizens United corporate freedom to dump their money wherever and whenever they see fit, mostly under the direction of Rove and Armey and the Koch cartel.

Realistically, we're absolutely not going to succeed in out-pacing them in funds.  But we are going to need to raise and commit more than we have.  It's unfortunate that in this economy, the sector that will grow fastest will be election consultants and advertising.  Not exactly an effective way to re-structure a national economy in a global environment.  These firms are not going to bring unemployment down in MI.  But it is what it is.  We need to look for ways to spend more effectively than them.  The outlook is gloomy.  But unless SCOTUS reverses that decision, we need to look for ways to succeed in a game now fixed in favor of a politically savvy and engaged corporate plutocracy that couldn't give a fuck about main street or preserving our "freedom."

Of course, others may want to spend time with "I told you so" self-gratifying revelry and primary fantasies.  Certainly their prerogative.

by Strummerson 2010-11-03 03:03PM | 0 recs
RE: The most important thing for us now

told you so.

 

lets primary Obama.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 06:18PM | 0 recs
RE: The most important thing for us now

And here I thought you wanted nothing to do with me.  

Anyway, make a case for a viable alternative who will get us a public option, Glass-Steagel, a bigger infrastructure stimulus, repeal DADT and support marriage equality and get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and I'm willing to consider it. Hell, I'll settle for 2 of those.  In other words, someone more progressive who can take down Obama AND win the general.  I don't see it.  But if you can convince me its possible, I'll pitch in.

by Strummerson 2010-11-03 07:56PM | 0 recs
RE: The most important thing for us now

"And here I thought you wanted nothing to do with me."

god all you do is steal from me

whats next

"in rubber..."

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 08:54PM | 0 recs
RE: The most important thing for us now

This is bizarre.  You hold the patent on that sentence?  Sentences can be patented?  Really?

And what are you putting in rubber?

Anyway, I'm waiting on your argument.  If you want your endeavor to succeed, you need to start convincing voters.  Especially democratic voters.

 

by Strummerson 2010-11-03 09:07PM | 0 recs
RE: The most important thing for us now

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by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 09:18PM | 0 recs
RE: The most important thing for us now

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by Strummerson 2010-11-03 09:20PM | 0 recs
RE: The most important thing for us now

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by Strummerson 2010-11-03 09:21PM | 0 recs
RE: The most important thing for us now

And here I thought you wanted nothing to do with me.  

Anyway, make a case for a viable alternative who will get us a public option, Glass-Steagel, a bigger infrastructure stimulus, repeal DADT and support marriage equality and get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and I'm willing to consider it. Hell, I'll settle for 2 of those.  In other words, someone more progressive who can take down Obama AND win the general.  I don't see it.  But if you can convince me its possible, I'll pitch in.

by Strummerson 2010-11-03 07:57PM | 0 recs
I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

What has happened to this site? Say what you will about the Clinton/Obama flamewars of 08, this place was a bastion of sane discussion compared to most of the rest of the blogosphere.

As to this election, it could have been so much worse. The Tea Party saved the Dems from losing the Senate by nominating unelectable candidates in Angle, O'Donnel, and Buck. All of those seats could have and probably would have gone GOP without Tea Party influence. I find some validation here in the notion that the Tea Party is a fringe movement and not a earth shifter the way some have posited.

 

Meanwhile, what do the American people want? And can they have a little patience? I don't think that the job creation they are looking for is going to spring forth from the House under Boehner. Interesting days indeed, but as I woke up this morning I had the sense that we dodged an even bigger bullet this year.

by wasder 2010-11-03 03:58PM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

And I say crap I am talking about the front page diary of Mr Landsman and practically everything he has written. I can only assume Jerome is attempting to drive away whatever vestige of his previous readership is left with the "writings" of this poster.

by wasder 2010-11-03 03:59PM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

Nevermind the "Mr." No need for handles. We're all friends here.

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-03 04:14PM | 0 recs
wasder confused the site with a Jon Stewart's event

the poor thing is a bit shellshocked by last night much bigger bullet that went flying by harmlessly. And by the unreasonably impatient electorate, I suppose

by totoRULES 2010-11-03 04:52PM | 0 recs
Unreasonably impatient?

People are losing jobs and houses. And the answer they see from the Democrats is more trickle down crap.

by antiHyde 2010-11-03 06:20PM | 0 recs
RE: Unreasonably impatient?

Well, yes, what's wrong with biting the bullet, even the much bigger one wasder was describing, and taking one for the team (Obama)? One could certainly buy a new house soon btw, see all the money banks are hoarding even today specifically to start again like it was just a couple of years ago. Nothing has changed, that great guy Geithner is making damn sure... 

Plenty of jobs flipping bovine protein packs in the altered-gene industry (hitech sector,) what's wrong with that too?

And you and I should meet, just to establish if you were for real.

by totoRULES 2010-11-03 08:28PM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

Sorry for the formality and the politeness. I have been trying for some time to understand your POV on being a Democrat. It is mystifying to me that you could invest so much time trashing the leader of your party on a site formerly known for supporting Democratic candidates. I obviously get the snark factor but something else (self loathing?) is going on here. Feel free to edify me if you can be bothered.

by wasder 2010-11-04 12:36PM | 0 recs
self loathing?

go F yourself you bullying obaa royalist fake.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 01:31AM | 0 recs
RE: self loathing?

Can you actually write anything that isn't an insult or a personal attack?

You're not making arguments.  You're just trying to settle scores (mostly imagined).  That's not going to get you or us anywhere.  It's certainly not good for this website as a forum for activists.

Or do you actually think you can get someone better elected without the support of anyone who has supported Obama?

 

by Strummerson 2010-11-05 08:47AM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

(self loathing?)

 

what is wrong with you!?

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 01:10PM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

WAAAAAAH!

SoMe Body embarrased my "Precious" and it makes me sooo MAD!

IM GONNA GETS ME  some of that good ol hopey feeling back by going over tomyDD and beat up on Jerome and them that vile racist Pumas

that always makes me feel superior which is better than ice cream!

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i looked at just 2 pages of this guys comments - his earliest and his most recent and seems that hes just another one of them thar obama royalist net enforcers i wrote a diary about.

Hes never come here to praise Caes...Jerome...just to try to bury him (and his site with him) 

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well bubba get use to the tone cause I for one and many millions like me want a primary challenge to Obama,  Dean, Feingold maybe someone else - who knows as yet?

but its coming and you and your bash Jerome games arent gonna stop it.

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heres some of this guys previous contribution to this site .

i just dont why you come here if you hate jerome so much...oh i get it - you come here BECAUSE  you hate jerome so much.

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Jerome has never failed to sprinkle a little acid on whatever good tidings come our way and it has often pissed me off.

The issue is not the vile filth posted by detractors of one candidate or the other but the really scathingly negative stuff written by the proprietor of the blog here.

Somebody should compile all of the outrageous anti-Obama statements Jerome made during the primaries. I am sure that besides this one there are some doozies he is sure to be embarrassed by now.

This is like Jerome's wet dream!

One does get the feeling that Jerome is invested in Obama losing.

. I happen to know about one high profile documentary project on Obama that should be very entertaining. A friend of mine is editing on it.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 06:51PM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

Hah--enforcer would be about the last word that would apply to me. I am a highly conciliatory presence on this site and in the internet in general, as opposed to say, you.  I don't hate Jerome. I respect that he can stand up for what he believes and also engage in the criticism that is leveled at him. I think he has misplaced faith in the Tea Party as an expression of democratic (little d, not party) energy. I think he allowed his bias towards Hillary to weaken his stature and ability to lead in the netroots community in 08, but I don't doubt the sincerity of his opinions.

 

I do wonder why he is allowing this site to become such a swamp of pointless negativity and would like to hear his thoughts on it. The writings here are a savage as anything on Redstate and that is what I am objecting to.

by wasder 2010-11-04 12:44PM | 0 recs
self loathing?

go F yourself you bullying obaa royalist fake.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 01:32AM | 0 recs
RE: self loathing?

Can you actually write anything that isn't an insult or a personal attack?

You're not making arguments.  You're just trying to settle scores (mostly imagined).  That's not going to get you or us anywhere.  It's certainly not good for this website as a forum for activists.

by Strummerson 2010-11-05 08:46AM | 0 recs
fake

zzzzzzzz

by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 01:11PM | 0 recs
RE: fake

Your ability to craft arguments leaves just a little to be desired.  

But the biggest mystery is your constant expressions of devotions to this website?  

Do you really think that anyone who doesn't already share your grievance mode of politics is going to be interested in considering supporting anything you are trying to promote when they read your comments?  

Do you think they will be interested in contributing to and participating in this website?  And you really want to blame others for destroying it?

Or are you only interested in airing trumped up and well-nourished resentments, hatred, and grievances and preaching to the choir?

That's not gonna get much done.

You claim to be an experienced and dedicated political professional and activist.  How effective do you think you are with these self-indulgent games?

by Strummerson 2010-11-05 02:06PM | 0 recs
by changeagain2012 2010-11-05 02:16PM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

WAAAAAAH!

SoMe Body embarrased my "Precious" and it makes me sooo MAD!

IM GONNA GETS ME  some of that good ol hopey feeling back by going over tomyDD and beat up on Jerome and them that vile racist Pumas

that always makes me feel superior which is better than ice cream!

---

i looked at just 2 pages of this guys comments - his earliest and his most recent and seems that hes just another one of them thar obama royalist net enforcers i wrote a diary about.

Hes never come here to praise Caes...Jerome...just to try to bury him (and his site with him) 

---

well bubba get use to the tone cause I for one and many millions like me want a primary challenge to Obama,  Dean, Feingold maybe someone else - who knows as yet?

but its coming and you and your bash Jerome games arent gonna stop it.

---

heres some of this guys previous contribution to this site .

i just dont why you come here if you hate jerome so much...oh i get it - you come here BECAUSE  you hate jerome so much.

--

Jerome has never failed to sprinkle a little acid on whatever good tidings come our way and it has often pissed me off.

The issue is not the vile filth posted by detractors of one candidate or the other but the really scathingly negative stuff written by the proprietor of the blog here.

Somebody should compile all of the outrageous anti-Obama statements Jerome made during the primaries. I am sure that besides this one there are some doozies he is sure to be embarrassed by now.

This is like Jerome's wet dream!

One does get the feeling that Jerome is invested in Obama losing.

. I happen to know about one high profile documentary project on Obama that should be very entertaining. A friend of mine is editing on it.

 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 06:50PM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

Of course, we can't survey your previous contributions.  But I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be worth the time.  Ooops.  That verged on an insult.  And you don't approve of insults and attacks, right?

Please don't hit me.

by Strummerson 2010-11-03 07:59PM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

zzzzz

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 08:51PM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

I love it.  You took the time to read my comment, hit "reply," and craft a witty response, because you're bored.

Do you think you could beat me up in your sleep?

by Strummerson 2010-11-03 09:09PM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

z

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 09:17PM | 0 recs
RE: I simply can't believe I am reading crap like this on My DD

x

by Strummerson 2010-11-03 09:21PM | 0 recs
Well

I'm all for getting rid of Obama but how? Feingold maybe? I understand the WH lived in mortal fear that he would lose his senate seat and hang around IA. I also understand that he believes Obama's ineptness (and I agree) cost him his seat. Run Feingold RUn!

by Ga6thDem 2010-11-03 09:15PM | 0 recs
RE: There’s Gotta Be a Morning After

Please stop, you two.

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-03 09:30PM | 0 recs
RE: There’s Gotta Be a Morning After

ok

by Strummerson 2010-11-03 09:32PM | 0 recs
RE: There’s Gotta Be a Morning After

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-03 09:46PM | 0 recs
RE: There’s Gotta Be a Morning After

Strum and Change, I mean.

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-03 09:32PM | 0 recs
RE: There’s Gotta Be a Morning After

Thanks for the clarification.  But it wasn't hard to figure out.

by Strummerson 2010-11-03 09:40PM | 0 recs
RE: There’s Gotta Be a Morning After

I didn't want to the guy directly above me to be confused.

by Jack Landsman 2010-11-03 09:46PM | 0 recs
Adios

And it's with stupidity like this I'm removing MyDD from my bookmarks (like Kos, Huff, Atrios, TPM, etc). All complaining, no real solutions.

by Timothy D. Minneci 2010-11-06 08:24PM | 0 recs
RE: Adios

Solution is a change of who is controlling party direction.

 

Do you want the pragmatic or the idealistic?

 

The idealistic just elected the GOP

 

The pragmatic saw Obama and knew what would unfold.  As it unfolds we see the idealistic digging in their heals saying all or nothing and we know its going to be nothing or something that looks a lot like nothing.

 

Steps to recovery

 

1)  Admit running a candidate with no experience instead of one very well seasoned was a mistake.  This doesn't have to be Obama and Hillary we are talking about.   I mean admit it so the next time we make the sane decision.

 

2)  Admit that growth is more favorable to the poor than equality in recession.  The poor will remember Clinton's boom more favorably that obama's reign solely because they could get jobs.

 

3)  Understand that change like fire is a good thing.  Change is why we are not cavemen, most modern machines run on fire or energy that looks like fire if you have too much of it up close.  But going into the forest with matches is a bad idea, too much change is a bad idea.  Liberals look backwards and say look at all this change we championed...But if you go back in time and look at all the change they wanted....The same people in the 60s that wanted social justice also wanted everyone to try LSD and raise their kids as the opposite gender.  If you run as the party of LSD and win BAD BAD BAD things happen.  Pragmatic opposition saved the democratic party from that.

 

4)  Understand that if you don't get Hillary in office in 2012 or 2016 you are going to lose a large segment of her supporters and that you can't win if that percentage is too large.  If the center democrats decided that liberal republicans offer them more than bat shit crazy kos kiddies then the democratic party will lose for a long long time.  

 

The center should run the party because the left wants almost all the change the center left would bring but the center left doesn't want about half the change the far left wants and many will actually sit it out or change parties to avoid that excessive unresponsible change.

by donkeykong 2010-11-08 01:06PM | 0 recs

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