Russ Feingold

"So to all of you in the words of, who else, Bob Dylan, 'But my heart is not weary, it's light and free, I've got nothing but affection for those who have sailed with me.'"

"I hope and I intend to continue to work with all of you in the future as much as possible, so it's on to the next life, it's on to the next battle, it's on to 2012, and it is on to our next adventure. Forward!"

Thanks for the moments Russ when you were the one telling the truth.

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Two poetic Dems sacrificed because Obama and Axelrod arrogantly have contempt for the FDR Coolition


Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland conceded the governorship with a little something from an American legend. Reading he invoked Woodie Guthrie:

"I hate a song that makes you think that you are just born to lose. Bound to lose. No good to nobody. No good for nothing. Because you are too old or too young or too fat or too slim or too ugly or too this or too that. Songs that run you down or poke fun at you on account of your bad luck or hard traveling. I am out to fight those songs to my very last breath of air and my last drop of blood. I am out to sing songs that will prove to you that this is your world and that if it has hit you pretty hard and knocked you for a dozen loops, no matter what color, what size you are, how you are built, I am out to sing the songs that make you take pride in yourself and in your work."

 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 02:45AM | 0 recs
on CNN

AFTER TALKING ABOUT ALL THE STATE HOUSES LOSES AND THE ABSOLUTELY HISTORIC TURNS IN STATE LEGISLATURES NATIONWIDE

SOMEONE JUST SAID THAT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SHOULD HAVE NOT SHOWN THE CONTEMPT THEY DID FOR DEAN AND FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH HIS 50 STATE PLAN.

Y'THINK?

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 02:50AM | 0 recs
RE: on CNN

A mistake of great proportions, especially considering that Dean opened up the pathway to make the Obama presidency possible. Just not getting it. Bad advisors?

by MainStreet 2010-11-03 08:59AM | 0 recs
RE: on CNN

the MSM destroyed hillary for him in 2008 and any breathing dem was gonna win the general against an 80 year old republincan in 08

 

he has terrible advisors if this is what they produce.

 

also since he is president prompter - people are getting to see that hes not as bright as HE KEPT telling us he was.

 

the way they treated dean showed an arrogance and contempt only topped by how they treated and still do treat the clintons.

 

f team obama.

 

primary him.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 01:06PM | 0 recs
If Only this could have been avoided

If only Dean hadn't tried to be a hard ass with Florida and lay down the law.

If only Hillary had been our nominee.

If only obama would have listened once he won.

If only the liberal wing of our party wasn't obsessed with the idea that normal people love everything that liberals stand for if only normal people weren't confused about the record.

 

America doesn't want what Obama and dailykos are selling.  We can either keep sending them candidates who will want to have teachable moments or we can listen and give them what they actually do want.

 

That involves trusting that what America wants is actually just and good enough to replace what Pelosi wants or Obama wants or Kos wants.

 

Sometimes there will be things like welfare reform under Clinton that America wants and many of the party activists may not want.  But if you listen to what they want they remember you.

 

In 2016 Bill Clinton will be a much bigger draw than Obama or Carter.  Clinton listened.  He has a legacy that you have to go back to JFK to surpass as a Democrat.

 

Clinton tried to get Meeks to drop out of the Florida race.  We may have kept the next Bush out of political life.  But no Meeks and Obama didn't listen.  They wanted to have a teachable moment.

 

If only this wasn't going to happen again.

If Rubio is president in 2012 or 2016 you can add another notch in the liberal party wrecking machine's belt.

If only the dailykos machine would take some credit for how they have ruined our party.

All the fiscal discipline reputation that Bill Clinton built up for our party after 20 years of us being seen as tax and spend has been destroyed in 2 years...

 

This was all obvious in the primaries.  I posted about it in the primaries.  Obama doesn't have 10% the skill, knowledge and wisdom of the Clinton clan.

 

If only the liberal wing of our party didn't drink the kool aid then.  If only they weren't drinking it 2 weeks ago we may have had Crist instead of Rubio.  If only they weren't drinking it last night when Pelosi claimed we would hold the house.

 

If only they would stop drinking it now....

 

If only.

by donkeykong 2010-11-03 02:55AM | 0 recs
RE: If Only this could have been avoided

Last time I checked, it was the blue dogs who caused Obama more problems than the liberals like Russ Feingold. Who wsa more demanding? Liberals complained, but when all was said and done, they did not bolt from the party. Some stayed home, but it was the Reagan Democrats that bolted. So who was more demanding?

 

 

by Pravin 2010-11-03 09:05AM | 1 recs
RE: If Only this could have been avoided

Po-bama...

 

boo hoo

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 01:09PM | 0 recs
RE: If Only this could have been avoided

thoughtful post. 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 01:08PM | 0 recs
RE: If Only this could have been avoided

I was waiting for some asshole to come along and start scapegoating the left.  No, dear, this loss is due to the ConDems dragging their feet, preventing the massive Democratic majorities from being used to solve problems, bolstering Republican talking points, and destroying the Democratic Party from within.

by TheUnknown285 2010-11-05 11:50AM | 0 recs
RE: If Only this could have been avoided

When the koolaid wing is in complete control there is literally no one left to blame but the voters.  Liberals convince themselves that somehow the voters are confused and there is a conspiracy to confuse them.

 

America isn't liberal.  Doesn't want to be liberal.  All future policy that is different from current policy will be from the liberal wing.  BUT the vast majority of stuff from the liberal wing will never be popular and runs the risk of creating massive backlash like the tea party movement.

 

Go slow and convince people before ramming it down their throats.  Obama and Pelosi didn't, they felt like this was their time and the voters don't want that.  Drink the kool aid any way you want thats what happened.

by donkeykong 2010-11-05 12:12PM | 0 recs
RE: If Only this could have been avoided

Yeah, yeah, regurgitate those right-wing talking points.  Take your DLC-style advocacy of cowering to someone dumb enough to believe that shit.

by TheUnknown285 2010-11-05 12:56PM | 0 recs
maybe Kohl will retire in 2012

and Russ can run for his Senate seat. There might be buyer's remorse regarding Johnson by that time.

by desmoinesdem 2010-11-03 06:54AM | 2 recs
Feingold has to be the biggest loss of the night.

Its symbolism could very well push Obama and perhaps the Senate into the concession mode that affected Clinton's presidency.

by MainStreet 2010-11-03 09:07AM | 0 recs
RE: Russ Feingold

Can somoene explain why Russ lost ? I understand a younger senator without enough of a track record losing to an anti white house wave. Was it just one issue - Healthcare - which he supported that undid all the work he did for fiscal responsibility (The Iraq war, TARP bailouts)? Looking at the comments in Wisconsin papers, I saw very little specific that tea partiers and nominal democrats had against him other than that he was liberal and he voted for the healthcare bill. And he definitely did not get traction for trying to save the country money on the idiotic Iraq war. I find it funny that if you say anything is defense related, even if it is wasteful expenditure, these tea party idiots have no objections to the waste. Shouldn't Russ have gotten a pass from those democrats on the healthcare issue? Surely, they should have known him as someone with integrity. As far as far left, how is he far left? He is mainstream liberal in many areas. Should we call republicans socialist because they supported medicare vote during Bush's presidency?

 

Russ didn't hold out on any votes. So what is this bullshit about purists being too demanding of Obama? Name a few Feingold stances  that was too demanding of ideology that alienated voters?

by Pravin 2010-11-03 09:13AM | 0 recs
RE: Russ Feingold

Russ did a good job, but unfortunately he didn't think anyone would be campaigning against him. The GOP is a fractured mess, despite all of these so called "victory sweeps" ... most of the GOP won as a result of a new party, the TEA party being created out if its fragments.  They stood by the TEA party to try to bask in some of the light.

But the GOP didn't beat Feingold. The TEA party did. And it was a new, exciting movement - that captured the imagination of Wisconsin. The TEA party is who won last night. Make no mistake about it. 

What would be good for America, IMHO - is if the TEA party decides not to get bought off by the GOP... but... who knows...

The guy that ultimately defeated Feingold, however, was the consumnate outside candidate. It's Mr. Smith goes to Washington for him.

So. You know. Feingold lost. He might run again. Who knows. He's a nice guy ... but ...  I think Feingold would have won, had he been able to effect more radical change under his watch, with the democratic majorities...

 

 

by Trey Rentz 2010-11-03 09:26AM | 0 recs
RE: Russ Feingold

he lost like everyone else did everywhere because people are unhappy with obama and the government he represents to them.

just like always. 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 01:13PM | 1 recs
RE: Russ Feingold

Yep.  Waves end up washing away many who should not have lost, largely because of the letter after their name.  The key to stopping this is to not allow the wave to happen (which means having an effective party that can turnout its base and that has an effective message).

by TheUnknown285 2010-11-05 11:55AM | 0 recs
RE: Russ Feingold

he lost like everyone else did everywhere because people are unhappy with obama and the government he represents to them.

just like always. 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 01:13PM | 1 recs
the good news

now we have a good 2012 candidate for a primary challenge for Nobama.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 01:10PM | 0 recs
RE: Russ Feingold

I put out a diary a few weeks ago about the Feingold campaign mess. Was he out of touch with his constituents that this wave took him by surprise? Living in GA, I am very familiar with the tea party movement and this anger is not suddden. It has been building since last year, even the non racist component of it. It started off with a lot of kooks and racists, but their message has been getting a lot of traction among the ordinary folk who do not follow politics like we do. Didn't Feingold have staff members who get feedback and warn him that he needs to be more public about his GENUINE disagreements with the white house(not just the throwing Obama and Pelosi under the bus ads we have seen from the Blue Dog types). He could have come across as an honest dissenter of policies without being an obstructionist or someoone just thorwing the President under the bus.

The  big mistake is the Democratic party(including the liberal wing) didn't put up more emphasis in thier public speeches about curbing expenditures(like Hailliburton handouts or big corp subsidies). Just like Republicans made big shows abou Acorn, Democrats should have repeatedly highlighted agents of government waste too. Instead all they do is harp about taxes not being high enough for the rich. Sure, let that beyour stance, but don't make yourself the face of such a stance. It hasn't proven to work positive results in American politics.  When dealing with deficit talk, Democrats reflexively talk about raising taxes(at least they added a qualifier "for the rich" in this election cycle). A person who doesnt follow politics closely hears Democrats talking about raising taxes and Republicans wanting to reduce spending. No wonder myths that Obama must have raised taxes for small business stuck and people like Feingold who fell in the trap of wasting too much time fighting a losing battle supporting more taxes for the rich get lumped in with a caricatured "likes to rais eyour taxes' meme.

by Pravin 2010-11-03 03:15PM | 1 recs
This sucks

I heard there was talk that Russ would run against Obama in a primary and than Feingold ruled it out.

Someone needs to primary the president as a matter of principles a la 1968 if nothing gets done in the first half of the next congressional session.

by kydem 2010-11-03 07:13PM | 0 recs
RE: This sucks

its early yet.

there WILL be someone, mabye more than one

and really whats russ gonna say to that question?

of course, it would take a draft feingold movement

would you join?

 

by changeagain2012 2010-11-03 09:09PM | 0 recs
RE: This sucks

Before anyone tries to do any draft whoever movement, there needs to be a messaging machine setup that being mainstream liberal doesn't necessarily mean being an impractical hippie.

There should be easy to understand points made repeatedly about how some liberal causes can actually save money in the long run. I am an example of a libertarian who is pro business who has seen how quite a few liberal causes make sense financially for the country. You invest properly in inner cities, you reduce crime. But to do that accountability needs to be the #1 priority for liberals because liberals believe in bigger government than tea partiers. So if they need to sell the concept of a bigger government, they need to show that they are capable of hving government be accountable for its mistakes.

by Pravin 2010-11-04 09:13AM | 0 recs
RE: This sucks

i think we have to look back to the history of how the 1968 challenge to Johnson came about.

it didnt start with gene mcCarthy - it began with an effort by a couple of staff kids in politics who decided to organize a run against LBJ from the left first - the candidates came later.

i truly believe that obama - after 2 years of congressional elections and millions more folks losing their homes and unemployment that will never drop down far enough to matter - simply cant win again in 12,

Im thinking 12.  Pressure of a challenge could end up with Obama choosing to do do what LBJ did.

by changeagain2012 2010-11-04 11:57AM | 0 recs
Obama is on thin ice with me.

I will not accept another Bill Clinton.  I will not lay down in front of the bus and accept more "free" trade or signing away minority rights in the name of political expediency. 

by TheUnknown285 2010-11-05 11:58AM | 0 recs
RE: Obama is on thin ice with me.

The vast vast vast vast Majority of America would gladly trade a Obama or a Pelosi for a Bill Clinton.

 

Seriously if we are not the party of Bill Clinton we are screwed.

 

If we are the Carter/Obama/Pelosi party we will lose lose lose.

 

And I personally will be voting for whatever party has the next Bill Clinton if its not the Democrats.  I sat this election out and will sit the next one out unless there are candidates that remind me of Clinton.

 

After seeing the dailykos faction try and cram this crap down our throats I will never again vote for a candidate from the left wing of the democratic party.

by donkeykong 2010-11-06 02:18AM | 0 recs
Maybe

Obama has done nothing wrong and done nothing at all :))

 

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