Glenn Beck Calls For States To Secede

When the right-wing criticizes Obama's policies and roots for him to fail (ya know, the same thing labeled as treasonous when Democrats did so to Bush), you see, it's for America's own good. It's because they want America to succeed that they want Obama to fail. So we have Congresswoman Bachmann calling for "revolution" and referring to Washington as "enemy territory" and there's no outcry about her being anti-American; ditto Glenn Beck's call for secession from the union. As Beck's logic goes, any state should be able to "opt out" of an economic "suicide pact." In other words, secession is the only way for a state to survive.

You can't convince me that the Founding Fathers wouldn't allow you to secede.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact, and if a state says: `I don't want to go there, because that's suicide, they have a right to back out. They have a right -- people have a right to not commit economic suicide...

...Texas says go to hell, Washington, which by the way has been said before. I believe it was Davey's about time that somebody says that again."

You gotta listen to it -- complete with revisionist Davey Crocket history -- to believe it.

Someone with some credibility on the right really needs to call out these rightwing maniacs and reign them in before something tragic happens. It shouldn't be surprising in an environment where rightwing crazies are calling for revolution and secession that the Department of Homeland Security is warning of increased activity among right-wing domestic anti-government terrorist groups:

Right-wing extremists in the United States are gaining new recruits by exploiting fears about the economy and the election of the first black U.S. president, the Department of Homeland Security warned in a report to law enforcement officials.

The April 7 report, which Reuters and other news media obtained on Tuesday, said such fears were driving a resurgence in "recruitment and radicalization activity" by white supremacist groups, antigovernment extremists and militia movements. It did not identify any by name.

DHS had no specific information about pending violence and said threats had so far been "largely rhetorical."

But it warned that home foreclosures, unemployment and other consequences of the economic recession "could create a fertile recruiting environment for right-wing extremists."

It's more than just that the conditions are ripe for such anti-government violence, it's that there are prominent figures on the right who are given mainstream platforms despite the fact that they truly are radical inciting these fanatics. If we are attacked by a 21st century Timothy McVeigh, add Glenn Beck, Michelle Bachmann, Rush Limbaugh et al to the list of those who have blood on their hands.

Tags: DHS, Glenn Beck, right-wing, secession (all tags)



Re: Glenn Beck Calls For States To Secede

I really am getting worried about these nut jobs, the language is obviously selected for someone with a mind like that. It's like when that one guy shot up some church that accepted gay people and they found his house filled with all these right wing republican books and etc.

The sad part is these hosts can't be THAT blind to see what they're doing and continue to do it anyway.

by werd2406 2009-04-14 05:57PM | 0 recs
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How well did that work last time?

A second dose of General Sherman would cure what ails them.  General Sherman demonstrated to the South why Federal protection and rule of law was better than secession.  The South has not tried secession since.  War is Hell.

by bakho 2009-04-15 04:36AM | 0 recs
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This isn't new really. Beck and Chuck Norris had a conversation over a month ago about Texas regaining independence. I read about it over on Free Republic. I'm paraphrasing now but Norris said Texas was independent before once and could be again. Beck said well I could a one star man instead of a fifty star one if it came to that.

Paul Saffo, a former professor of mine and a noted futurist, has stated in the past that US stands a less than 50% chance of remaining intact as 2050. His prediction is based on the economic dislocation brought on by the collapse of globalization within a peak oil framework that will break up continental empires into regional entities. Basically he envisions a city state with a hinterland. But Beck's views are really a throwback to notions of states right. The Tenth Amendment and all that.

I don't know about you but I know very few people who think of themselves first as Californian then an American. That there are some, I don't deny. But not many. And if I had to guess Texas and other Southerners would lead this group.

I am glad you're highlighting his latest case of moonbattery. They discredit themselves every time they open their mouths.

by Charles Lemos 2009-04-14 06:00PM | 0 recs
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States have responsibilities, citizens have rights.  ;)

by lojasmo 2009-04-15 03:37AM | 0 recs
If I remember correctly

there are activist secessionist movements in Vermont, Hawaii, South Carolina and Texas. Vermont's might be the largest and from what I hear there is also a Greater Acadia movement that aims to create a country out of New England and Atlantic Canada.

by Charles Lemos 2009-04-14 06:03PM | 0 recs
Re: If I remember correctly

I would be remiss if I did not put in a plug for the State of Jefferson.

by Steve M 2009-04-14 06:19PM | 0 recs
Re: If I remember correctly

One learns something every day. I had no idea.

by Charles Lemos 2009-04-14 06:49PM | 0 recs
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I say let them secede!

Here's the deal: You can have the south break off, maybe throw in a few of the fly over states in the midwest. We'll check back in 10...hell, make it 5 years and see who's doing better. America without Texas and its electoral votes....Dems win every election!

by werd2406 2009-04-14 06:38PM | 0 recs
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For this reason, the GOP would be fighting harder than anybody to keep em'.  A decent proof of why Mr. Beck is being entirely disingenuous when he says this.

by semiquaver 2009-04-15 12:54AM | 0 recs
Texas HRC 50

It seems Rick Perry decided to declare the "sovereignty" of the state of Texas. So here's the thing is it secession? Can we now stop sending federal money to Texas even in emergency? Or is it some token school-yard posturing.

What I fear is violence. There are enough stupid and rabid conservatives out there who are willing to do stupid things. It has happened in Pittsburgh and it can happen in other places as well. Ridiculing the right wingers, while good, is not enough. We as citizens have to be vigilant as well. Organize, hit these idiots where it hurts. Hurt their sponsors, stop the cash flow and their stupidity will stop as well. What these right-winger are now promulgating is treason because last I checked secession is treason.

by tarheel74 2009-04-14 06:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Texas HRC 50

Doesn't sovereignty rests with the states?

Todd, Josh and Jonathan are the lawyers.

by Charles Lemos 2009-04-14 06:51PM | 0 recs
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Didn't Davet Crockett tell the Mexican government to go to Hell, not the US government?

IIRC Texas was part of Mexico at the time. It was later when they told Washington to go to Hell.

Let's just let them re-form the Republic of Texas and build a big wall around it to keep moonbats on their side of the border.

by antiHyde 2009-04-14 07:03PM | 0 recs
"Punch a right winger in the face" day

Seriously, i am so tempted to do this when my brain gets overloaded by the hypocrisy on patriotism we have had to endure over the years.

by Pravin 2009-04-15 02:48AM | 0 recs
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I think this guy would disagree. ts/AbrahamLincoln/

by The Electrical Worker 2009-04-15 04:28AM | 0 recs
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I've just published a book that outlines the many ways that state officials have to "check and balance" the federal government at each stage of the national policymaking process.  It's a long way of demonstrating that states aren't as downtrodden as many think. "Big government" stomping all over the states is a great scare tactic, but the evidence just doesn't bear it out. States don't do much to publicize this, of course, since they get political mileage out of playing the victim card (see Perry, Rick).

If you're interested, see:

by ConnecticutPoliticalScientist 2009-04-15 07:22AM | 0 recs


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