Michelle Bachmann Still Crazy

Via TPM, Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Nuthouse) appeared on Townhall's First Team radio show this weekend to in no uncertain terms incite listeners to revolution over what the right is calling Obama's "cap and tax" proposal.

First she likened DC to enemy territory, saying:

"I'm a foreign correspondent on enemy lines and I try to let everyone back here in Minnesota know exactly the nefarious activities that are taking place in Washington."

And then she called for an uprising:

Bachmann also spoke out against the cap-and-trade proposals currently making their way through Washington, and how she'll be distributing information against it at an upcoming event in the district. "I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax, because we need to fight back," said Bachmann. "Thomas Jefferson told us, having a revolution every now and then is a good thing. And the people - we the people - are going to have to fight back hard if we're not going to lose our country."

Eric Kleefeld generously gives Bachmann the benefit of the doubt and calls the revolution "figurative" but this is extremely dangerous language for a sitting member of congress to be using. And can you imagine if a Democrat had used a similar analogy to refer to Washington? For me, this is comparable to the sort of frenzy McCain and Palin were creating at their campaign rallies last year except Bachmann is being far less subtle.

The revolution Bachmann is trying to incite here is along the same lines as the "We Surround Them" farce Glen Beck recently launched on Fox News. Their point (if I can try to get inside their heads for a minute -- scary) is that President Obama's agenda -- which was ratified by a strong majority of the nation in November, by the way -- is a threat to "our economic freedom." This is the same shit Bachmann was spewing on Hardball shortly before the election, you'll recall, calling Obama socialist and wanting members of congress to name names because they see an government empowered to advance the people's agenda as a threat to freedom. Riiiiight. A government that wiretaps its citizens without a warrant, renders innocent people to foreign countries to be tortured and incarcerates people without any due process, however, that's all good, no threat to freedom there.

Update [2009-3-23 19:5:13 by Todd Beeton]:More about Obama's cap and trade plan:

As a candidate, Barack Obama said he'd tackle climate change by imposing caps on emissions of greenhouse gases. Now, as President, he's doing exactly that. He proposes reducing U.S. emissions 14% below 2005 levels by 2020 and 83% below by 2050. And he'd raise $646 billion from 2012 to 2019 by auctioning the rights to emit such gases—in effect putting a price on carbon emissions. With Congress also serious about the climate, business knows the battle has been joined for real and is trying to shape a compromise bill likely to emerge this year. "We are now playing with live bullets," says the Environmental Defense Fund's Mark Brownstein, who works with a group of companies that supports the plan.

Oooooh, scary!

Opponents insist energy companies will pass on higher costs to consumers; proponents argue consumers will come out ahead in the end.

The Obama team points out that its cap-and-trade plan returns much of the money raised by permit sales to consumers nationwide in the form of lower taxes, so many people come out ahead. And the Environmental Defense Fund has created a map of 1,200 alternative energy or energy-efficiency companies in key manufacturing states that stand to benefit from the climate plan. While the Midwest will bear a higher cost from reducing carbon emissions, the region will also benefit from the most new jobs, the EDF argues.

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A stroke of genius!

The Republicans used to use really scary looking folks for this New World Order/Black Helicopters/UN Army/Bilderburg Illuminatti crazy....

Now, the package is an attractive woman, be it Palin or Bachman, and it slides down the palate of the base and the Media is kind of hypnotized by the pretty...

After all, that is how THEY do it. Pretty Newscasters bleeting about the Apocalypse!

She is really scary, but even more amazing, they send this fruit bar back to congress again and again...What a frightening area she must represent.

by WashStateBlue 2009-03-23 03:10PM | 0 recs
Re: A stroke of genius!

She did run against a guy named

Tinklenberg

I mean, come on, it was a tossup.

by Zeitgeist9000 2009-03-23 03:11PM | 0 recs
You Took The Words Right Out Of My

by Zeitgeist9000 2009-03-23 03:10PM | 0 recs
yes, but this was the previous model

ACCKKKKKKKK!!!!

That face would peel paint off a concrete bridge!

by WashStateBlue 2009-03-23 03:25PM | 0 recs
No Wonder Harold Ford Attacked Her

He probably thought she was the undead coming to take him back!

by Zeitgeist9000 2009-03-23 03:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Bachmann Still Crazy

The revolution Bachmann is trying to incite here is along the same lines as the "We Surround Them" farce Glen Beck recently launched on Fox News.

Glenn Beck is a wonder to behold. Do you realize that since he went to Fox News he has doubled the viewership for that time slot? He's getting some 2.2 million viewers a day.

Don't ask me why but I have a fascination with fringe groups. I read Free Republic religiously for various reasons. It's actually better than memeorandum as a new aggregator or even google. Those people post everything. Mind you, I rarely read the comments on their threads. Every so often I do. I have been looking at some of their "going Galt" and "tea party" threads every now and again. Those threads are frightful at times and borderline seditious on a rare occasion. There's one guy up in Idaho. He's a former MicroSoft engineer and he now runs his own consulting business. Here's his welcome page:

If you support Obama and his ilk, I don't want your business. I refuse to enable you to support someone with such a monstrous disregard for life, who evinces an utter contempt for freedom and who holds disdain for the wisdom of America's Founders. I refuse to provide you with the means to aid in the destruction of life, liberty and human happiness. I refuse to provide my talents and tools to fools who won't even stand up for their own civilization. Finally, if you support Obama and what he stands for, you are unfit to live in a free society.  A word of advice: Atlas has begun to shrug. I suggest that you get the hell out of the way. Change is coming - but it's not what you bargained for...

Hyperbole? Maybe, maybe not. There are loose calls to arm themselves to teeth. Taglines include stuff "I'm off to buy more ammo."

Michelle Bachmann and Glenn Beck are lunatics but I wouldn't dismiss them as a farce. They're dangerous. I view all these Rapture groups, Galt militia groups and other fringe radical right groups in the same light as I do Jihadists. They believe in those 72 virgins. Bachmann and Beck have a warped view of the America but it is a deeply held one. And there's nothing we can say to these people that will ever get them to change their mind.

My greatest fear is a systemic crash. For starters, it is not an experience I actually want to live through. Growing up in Colombia as a boy, I had a Chilean friend - Jewish whose family fled the 1973 coup - and then at Stanford, there was also a modest Chilean contingent some of whom were and remain close friends. Some were afraid to express a political opinion even from the comfort of Palo Alto, one, however, was very brash and his experiences remain with me to this day. Chile had not one but two systemic crashes in the space of about 15 years each lasting several years or more. The radicalization of politics is a given in systemic crashes. If our current economic woes allow Glenn Beck an audience of 2.2 million people a day, imagine what a systemic crash might do.

by Charles Lemos 2009-03-23 03:55PM | 0 recs
The 9-12 Project

Here's the Mission Statement of a group called the 9/12 Project. You can google it if you read on it. I won't link to them because that's frankly dangerous.

Mission Statement

This website is a place for you and other like-minded Americans looking for direction in taking back the control of our country. It is also a place to find information that will assist you in navigating the rough waters we face in the days, weeks and months ahead.

We suggest that you start in your own homes.  Talk to your family about the Values and Principles.  Discuss the importance of what the Founders designed for America.

Hold or attend a weekly meeting in your neighborhood or town. Communication with your neighbors is vital to the process of protecting our country.  Gather in living rooms, coffee houses or restaurants.  Share your thoughts and ideas.

Visit this website often.  Make use of the resources that are linked here.  Share the ideas and resources that have worked in your home or town.

This is a non-political movement. The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created.

That same feeling - that commitment to country is what we are hoping to foster with this idea. We want to get everyone thinking like it is September 12th, 2001 again.

Ask yourself these questions:

   * Do you watch the direction that America is being taken in and feel powerless to stop it?
    * Do you believe that your voice isn't loud enough to be heard above the noise anymore?
    * Do you read the headlines everyday and feel an empty pit in your stomach...as if you're completely alone?

If you've answered YES, then you've fallen for the Wizard of Oz lie. While the voices you hear in the distance may sound intimidating, as if they surround us from all sides--the reality is very different. Once you pull back the curtain,  you realize that there are only a few people pressing the buttons, and their voices are weak. The truth is that they don't surround us at all.

We surround them.

At the origin of America, our Founding Fathers built this country on 28 powerful principles. These principles were culled from all over the world and from centuries of great thinkers. We have distilled the original 28 down to the 9 basic principles.

So, how do we show America what's really behind the curtain? Read the nine simple principles. If you believe in at least seven of them, then we have something in common.

Welcome.

We surround them. Am I besieged? After the siege, what will they do to me?

Here are their 9 Principles. Their 12 value read as if from a Boy Scout manual. Nothing wrong with that per se but look at the Principles.

Mission Statement

This website is a place for you and other like-minded Americans looking for direction in taking back the control of our country. It is also a place to find information that will assist you in navigating the rough waters we face in the days, weeks and months ahead.

We suggest that you start in your own homes.  Talk to your family about the Values and Principles.  Discuss the importance of what the Founders designed for America.

Hold or attend a weekly meeting in your neighborhood or town. Communication with your neighbors is vital to the process of protecting our country.  Gather in living rooms, coffee houses or restaurants.  Share your thoughts and ideas.

Visit this website often.  Make use of the resources that are linked here.  Share the ideas and resources that have worked in your home or town.

This is a non-political movement. The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created.

That same feeling - that commitment to country is what we are hoping to foster with this idea. We want to get everyone thinking like it is September 12th, 2001 again.

Ask yourself these questions:

   * Do you watch the direction that America is being taken in and feel powerless to stop it?
    * Do you believe that your voice isn't loud enough to be heard above the noise anymore?
    * Do you read the headlines everyday and feel an empty pit in your stomach...as if you're completely alone?

If you've answered YES, then you've fallen for the Wizard of Oz lie. While the voices you hear in the distance may sound intimidating, as if they surround us from all sides--the reality is very different. Once you pull back the curtain,  you realize that there are only a few people pressing the buttons, and their voices are weak. The truth is that they don't surround us at all.

We surround them.

At the origin of America, our Founding Fathers built this country on 28 powerful principles. These principles were culled from all over the world and from centuries of great thinkers. We have distilled the original 28 down to the 9 basic principles.

So, how do we show America what's really behind the curtain? Read the nine simple principles. If you believe in at least seven of them, then we have something in common.

Welcome.

The 9/12 Project has 225,000 members. That's larger than the readership of MyDD. And this is one of the milder groups. It's basically a God and Family group that subscribes to the Grover Norquist "leave us alone" mentality. It's my money. Undoing the notion that Reagan so successfully embedded in the minds of many, that taxes are your money, is a challenge of epic proportions.

One of the most important books that I ever read is Revolutionary Change by Chalmers Johnson. Strongly recommended. Chalmers Johnson is now more known for his anti-militarism series Blowback but before that he was a Japan specialist. He was one of my graduate advisers. I sought him out after reading Revolutionary Change as a freshman in college. The book tackles what change really means, a change in values. Reagan changed the values of the country. That line it's your money and the attack on government as the problem, not the solution while not a rare view in the US historically was not the dominant paradigm that is now. If Obama is to succeed, indeed we as progressives are succeed, it is evident that it is a battle of values. The fight for America is one of value systems. Now here's a rub. Ours are wholly non-violent. Theirs are not necessarily so.

Read Andrew Breitbart op-ed in the Washington Times today. It's almost a call to arms. The op-ed is a plea for General Petraeus to "save the nation." Again hyberbole? Maybe, maybe not.

They are lunatics. And you have to take them at their word.

by Charles Lemos 2009-03-23 04:24PM | 0 recs
Re: The 9-12 Project

I'm sure they'd love for it to be 9/12 again... they pretty much had a republican dictatorship back then...

by LordMike 2009-03-23 06:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Bachmann Still Crazy

For me, this is comparable to the sort of frenzy McCain and Palin were creating at their campaign rallies last year except Bachmann is being far less subtle.

Todd, btw, this is a great post.

One thing that's important to remember that many who attended those McCain/Palin rallies are part of an America that is disappearing. In large swaths of the country, theirs was the dominant culture. No more. The country is more diverse now and moreso each day. They are seeing their way of life disappear right before their eyes. Frankly, a large reason that it is disappearing is because for a generation, sometimes more, they supported the GOP. They voted against their own economic interests. That choice destroyed the small towns they grew up in. Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Lowe's just devastated the rural and small town economy. They fail to put two and two together and still prefer to subscribe to Guns and God message of the GOP rather than focus on the economic causes of their demise.

by Charles Lemos 2009-03-23 05:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Bachmann Still Crazy

I'm old enough to have lived through several presidential administrations from both sides of the political divide. I'm active on both liberal and conservative blogs, and I see the same sentiment toward extremes on both sides of the spectrum. It's understandable, really. The loudest voices are generally the more extreme voices, but they usually do not represent the true views of their respective groups. Yet, the vast majority of our politicians wouldn't want it any other way, which is probably the biggest "dirty secret" in government.

While Democrats and Republicans battle against each other, we are distracted from what the real problem is in government. And while we engage in these battles, we are misdirecting our energies.

The real problem in government is that it no longer represents the will of the people (the House) OR what is right for the whole of society (the Senate). Instead, we have allowed lobbyists to buy influence by way of campaign donations (and other gifts, but the campaign monies are the life blood of Congress.) Industry supports politicians, and politicians in turn pass laws that benefit industries whose lobbyists cough up the greatest amount of cash. Is it any wonder that Congress has no trouble ratifying "free trade" agreements that send jobs overseas and benefit the corporate CEO's and their ilk? Likewise, why do we think Congress hasn't insisted on tracking down the whereabouts of trillions of dollars in "loans" to banks? How can we believe the kleptocrats any more?

Another HUGE part of the problem is the media. Reporters gladly repeat the propaganda that our administrations and Congress put forward. Many years later, if there's enough evidence to the contrary, the media "might" pick it up and broadcast it, but by then the damage has been done.

We, the people of the United States, in fact do outnumber and do surround the clowns in Washington D.C.  The question is: How do we return to the constitutional design of a government that truly represents the people?

I'm afraid I don't have the answer, but I strongly believe that warfare between right and left and between rich and poor is counter-productive, and I'd really like to hear some productive ideas.

by ruaqtpi2 2009-03-24 05:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Michelle Bachmann Still Crazy

We need to preserve the nut-case!  She's mentioned here:

comic strip

by MtnFrost 2009-03-24 07:56AM | 0 recs

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