AARP, AMA Come Out in Favor of Dem Healthcare Bill

The cause of healthcare reform receives a huge boost today:

Today AARP announced its endorsement of the Affordable Health Care for America Act (H.R. 3962) and the accompanying Medicare Physician Payment Reform Act (H.R. 3961). The Association's support follows nearly two years of work with lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to craft a health care reform plan that meets the needs of AARP's nearly 40 million members and all older Americans. Among those needs are reforms that strictly curb insurance companies' discrimination against older Americans and Medicare improvements that strengthen benefits while protecting the program for future generations.

This isn't too bad of news, either:

The American Medical Association endorsed the House Democratic leadership's health care reform bill Thursday.

It's "not a perfect representation of our views," but is close enough to warrant the support of the organization, AMA President Dr. J. James Rohack said.

Two days out for the forthcoming House vote on healthcare reform, I'm feeling more in more confident that the Democratic leadership will be able to round up the 218 votes in favor of their legislation. Still wondering, though, if Michael Barone or any of the other naysayers are going to be willing to take me up on a bet -- the beneficiary of which would be charitable -- that healthcare reform will pass through the House on Saturday.

Tags: 111th Congress, aarp, healthcare reform (all tags)

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15 Comments

No to the bill

I would still suggest that they will have an issue rounding up 218 for one of the same reasons I dont support it....taxpayer funder abortion, The way this bill is constructed taxpayer dollars can be used to fund abortions. Further there is no language in the bill to allow for those who object to abortion (doctors, nurses) nor for religious based based hospitals to deny the procedure in their hospitals.

by BuckeyeBlogger 2009-11-05 10:22AM | 0 recs
Re: No to the bill

Wow, you honestly believe this bill will force doctors to perform abortions?

by Steve M 2009-11-05 10:35AM | 0 recs
Re: No to the bill

Idiocy.  First, the bill HAS been amended to prevent funding for abortion.

Second, conscience clause bills were passed immediately after Roe V. Wade.  Your "concern" is duly noted, though.

by lojasmo 2009-11-05 11:30AM | 0 recs
Re: No to the bill

Fallen off too the dark side have you?

by vecky 2009-11-05 02:08PM | 0 recs
Re: No to the bill

Acutally if you read the specifics you will find that the bill does not prevent funding for abortion. It states that such funding would come from private plans, but anyone who has half a brain nows they can move money around. Further since there is no explicit language in this bill that states there can be no funding for abortion, it leaves a hazy gray area that can be interpreted by courts as open to interpretation. So a Judge could feasibly rule that funding must be provided.

Further there is no explicit language protecting consiencous objectors. The devil is in the details and no where in this bill is abortion funding specifically denied nor objection to performing abortions by physicians for hospitals protected.

by BuckeyeBlogger 2009-11-05 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: No to the bill

What's wrong with that? The government is providing a subsidy to  poor individuals to purchase a health insurance plan of their choice. Their choice...

Secondly there is no need for any additional "explicit language". The Hyde amendment is still in place.

by vecky 2009-11-06 12:11AM | 0 recs
Re: No to the bill

Again, read from the bill. Lots of double speak...why cant they just put language that simply states there shall be no federal funding of abortion in any form. There shall be no discrimination or penalty towards healthcare providers who refuse to perform abortions. Why all the doublespeak?

7 (e) ABORTION COVERAGE PROHIBITED AS PART OF
8 MINIMUM BENEFITS PACKAGE.--
9 (1) PROHIBITION OF REQUIRED COVERAGE.--
10 The Health Benefits Advisory Committee may not
11 recommend under section 223(b), and the Secretary
12 may not adopt in standards under section 224(b),
13 the services described in paragraph (4)(A) or (4)(B)
14 as part of the essential benefits package and the
15 Commissioner may not require such services for
16 qualified health benefits plans to participate in the
17 Health Insurance Exchange.

18 (2) VOLUNTARY CHOICE OF COVERAGE BY
19 PLAN.--In the case of a qualified health benefits
20 plan, the plan is not required (or prohibited) under
21 this Act from providing coverage of services de22
scribed in paragraph (4)(A) or (4)(B) and the
23 QHBP offering entity shall determine whether such
24 coverage is provided.

1 (3) COVERAGE UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH INSUR2
ANCE OPTION.--The public health insurance option
3 shall provide coverage for services described in para4
graph (4)(B). Nothing in this Act shall be construed
5 as preventing the public health insurance option
6 from providing for or prohibiting coverage of serv7
ices described in paragraph (4)(A).

8 (4) ABORTION SERVICES.--
9 (A) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND10
ING IS PROHIBITED.--The services described in
11 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
12 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
13 the Department of Health and Human Services
14 is not permitted, based on the law as in effect
15 as of the date that is 6 months before the be16
ginning of the plan year involved.

17 (B) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUND18
ING IS ALLOWED.--The services described in
19 this subparagraph are abortions for which the
20 expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for
21 the Department of Health and Human Services
22 is permitted, based on the law as in effect as
23 of the date that is 6 months before the begin24
ning of the plan year involved.

GARDING ABORTION.
5 (a) NO PREEMPTION OF STATE LAWS REGARDING
6 ABORTION.--Nothing in this Act shall be construed to
7 preempt or otherwise have any effect on State laws regard8
ing the prohibition of (or requirement of) coverage, fund9
ing, or procedural requirements on abortions, including
10 parental notification or consent for the performance of an
11 abortion on a minor.

12 (b) NO EFFECT ON FEDERAL LAWS REGARDING
13 ABORTION.--
14 (1) IN GENERAL.--Nothing in this Act shall be
15 construed to have any effect on Federal laws regard16
ing--
17 (A) conscience protection;
18 (B) willingness or refusal to provide abor19
tion; and
20 (C) discrimination on the basis of the will21
ingness or refusal to provide, pay for, cover, or
22 refer for abortion or to provide or participate in
23 training to provide abortion.

24 (c) NO EFFECT ON FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS LAW.--
25 Nothing in this section shall alter the rights and obliga-
1 tions of employees and employers under title VII of the
2 Civil Rights Act of 1964.

3 SEC. 259. NONDISCRIMINATION ON ABORTION AND RE4
SPECT FOR RIGHTS OF CONSCIENCE.
5 (a) NONDISCRIMINATION.--A Federal agency or pro6
gram, and any State or local government that receives
7 Federal financial assistance under this Act (or an amend8
ment made by this Act), may not--
9 (1) subject any individual or institutional health
10 care entity to discrimination; or
11 (2) require any health plan created or regulated
12 under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act)
13 to subject any individual or institutional health care
14 entity to discrimination,
15 on the basis that the health care entity does not provide,
16 pay for, provide coverage of, or refer for abortions.
17 (b) DEFINITION.--In this section, the term ``health
18 care entity'' includes an individual physician or other
19 health care professional, a hospital, a provider-sponsored
20 organization, a health maintenance organization, a health
21 insurance plan, or any other kind of health care facility,
22 organization, or plan.

18 (d) NO DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF PROVI19
SION OF ABORTION.--No Exchange participating health
20 benefits plan may discriminate against any individual
21 health care provider or health care facility because of its
22 willingness or unwillingness to provide, pay for, provide
23 coverage of, or refer for abortions.

(3) PROHIBITION OF USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS
12 FOR ABORTION COVERAGE.--An affordability credit
13 may not be used for payment for services described
14 in section 222(d)(4)(A).

16 (c) SENSE OF CONGRESS REGARDING LONGITU17
DINAL STUDY OF RELATIVE MENTAL HEALTH CON18
SEQUENCES FOR WOMEN OF RESOLVING A PREG19
NANCY.--
20 (1) SENSE OF CONGRESS.--It is the sense of
21 the Congress that the Director of the National Insti22
tute of Mental Health may conduct a nationally rep23
resentative longitudinal study (during the period of
24 fiscal years 2011 through 2020) on the relative men25
tal health consequences for women of resolving a
1 pregnancy (intended and unintended) in various
2 ways, including carrying the pregnancy to term and
3 parenting the child, carrying the pregnancy to term
4 and placing the child for adoption, miscarriage, and
5 having an abortion. This study may assess the inci6
dence, timing, magnitude, and duration of the imme7
diate and long-term mental health consequences
8 (positive or negative) of these pregnancy outcomes.
9 (2) REPORT.--Beginning not later than 3 years
10 after the date of the enactment of this Act, and peri11
odically thereafter for the duration of the study,
12 such Director may prepare and submit to the Con13
gress reports on the findings of the study.
14 (d) DEFINITIONS.--In this section:

1 ``SEC. 804. LIMITATION ON USE OF FUNDS APPROPRIATED
2 TO INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE.
3 ``Any limitation on the use of funds contained in an
4 Act providing appropriations for the Department for a pe5
riod with respect to the performance of abortions shall
6 apply for that period with respect to the performance of
7 abortions using funds contained in an Act providing ap8
propriations for the Service.

by BuckeyeBlogger 2009-11-05 04:18PM | 0 recs
Re: No to the bill

Seems clear to me. What grade level should we aim at, exactly?

by QTG 2009-11-05 04:40PM | 0 recs
Re: No to the bill

"Further there is no explicit language protecting consiencous objectors."

The text explicitly states that federal laws on the books regarding refusal will be respected.  Are you really making this argument in good faith?

NO EFFECT ON FEDERAL LAWS REGARDING ABORTION

(A) conscience protection;
(B) willingness or refusal to provide abortion; and
(C) discrimination on the basis of the willingness or refusal to provide, pay for, cover, or refer for abortion or to provide or participate in training to provide abortion.

by thatrangeofshadesbetweenredandbluestuff 2009-11-05 05:19PM | 0 recs
Re: No to the bill

That jumped right out at me too.  I mean, if you can ctrl-c ctrl-v, surely you can ctrl-f "conscience"?

by Steve M 2009-11-05 05:47PM | 0 recs
Sweet!

Excellent... great timing for these endorsements.  Get it done, Pelosi!

by thatrangeofshadesbetweenredandbluestuff 2009-11-05 10:43AM | 0 recs
Good News

Now lets pass this thing.  

by Kent 2009-11-05 10:57AM | 0 recs
Re: AARP, AMA Come Out in Favor of Dem

I think these endorsements are a really big deal, and I also think they will make it easier to get the House bill as opposed to the Senate bill at the end of the day.

by Steve M 2009-11-05 12:19PM | 0 recs
By a long shot

The House Bill will unfortunately be much easier to pass.

by NoFortunateSon 2009-11-05 12:56PM | 0 recs
Re: By a long shot

Because cloture does no exist in the House. By my count the same % of reps and senators support the bill - about 52%, or 225 Reps and 52 Senators. The problem will be getting cloture in the senate.

by vecky 2009-11-05 02:10PM | 0 recs

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