NYDN: Giuliani Will Run for Senate... then President

FWIW.

Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani has decided not to run for governor next - but will run for U.S. Senate instead, sources told the Daily News.

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If elected, the source said, he would use that as a stepping stone to run for President in 2012 - and would not run for re-election to the Senate. A Giuliani spokeswoman downplayed the reports.

The polling on the race suggests that this could be a genuine possibility, with Rudy Giuliani leading Democratic incumbent Kirsten Gilibrand by a 51 percent to 40 percent margin in recent Marist polling and a 53 percent to 36 percent margin in recent Siena (.pdf) polling. What's more, considering that Giuliani isn't going to beat Andrew Cuomo, who many believe will end up being the Democrats' gubernatorial nominee, a decision to run for the Senate rather than for Governor makes sense on another level.

Then again, New Yorkers are going to vote for a Senator they know is going to immediately turn around and run for President, a Senator who would almost undoubtedly be an absentee legislator spending more time on the hustings in Iowa than in the halls of Congress? Hard to imagine.

To add... Do remember this: Giuliani hasn't found a big race he hasn't been willing to pull out of for some time. In 2008, Giuliani pulled out of Iowa. He then effectively pulled out of New Hampshire. Long before that he pulled out of the 2000 Senate campaign in New York against Hillary Clinton. Not exactly a track record of being able to withstand the rigor of a genuine campaign.

Tags: New York, NY-SEN, Rudy Giuliani, Senate 2010 (all tags)

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26 Comments

Re: NYDN: Giuliani Will Run for Senate...

Senator Gillibrand will eat Rudy's lunch.

by Steve M 2009-11-19 10:27AM | 0 recs
Re: NYDN: Giuliani Will Run for Senate...

maybe not--Gillibrand is a weak appointed incumbent--that's why Rudy is running for Senate.

by esconded 2009-11-19 10:37AM | 0 recs
Re: NYDN: Giuliani Will Run for Senate...

Never really understood why she was weak - seems a solid progressive, and had an NRA endorsement too. You would think all bases were covered.

by vecky 2009-11-19 10:49AM | 0 recs
No one knows who she is

by ND22 2009-11-19 10:51AM | 0 recs
Re: NYDN: Giuliani Will Run for Senate...

Back when Rudy was the frontrunner in polls for the 2008 nomination, I said there was no chance in hell.  "Maybe not," they said.  Of course, these days it seems everybody knew he would never be the nominee.

I am making this prediction in black and white and I am happy to stand behind it.

by Steve M 2009-11-19 10:51AM | 0 recs
Re: NYDN: Giuliani Will Run for Senate...

I agree wholeheartedly.  The more people learn about Giuliani, the less they like him.  The only thing that could work for him here is that his horrible executive record (he governed during a boom in NYC and left the city heavily in debt) will be less of an albatross.  Of course, if he were able to overcome his many deficiencies he would make a truly frightening president.  

by orestes 2009-11-19 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: NYDN: Giuliani Will Run for Senate...

I'd agree, except it won't even get to that point. Giuliani will find an excuse to duck out of the race once it becomes apparent that Gillibrand will beat him.

It will all be so noble about how he couldn't possibly run for President while being a Senator like, oh I don't know, maybe the current occupant of the White House. Such unfairness...he could never be a part of that...and so to his personal detriment he will pull out of the race to focus on what's best for the country.

by fsm 2009-11-19 10:42AM | 0 recs
the polls...
...say otherwise.  Gillibrand was having trouble
with Pataki also.
by esconded 2009-11-19 10:43AM | 0 recs
it's called name recognition

Giuliani will not beat Gillibrand, especially running on a campaign of "I'm running for President really, I just want your Senate seat so I can run"

by ND22 2009-11-19 10:50AM | 0 recs
Re: the polls...

The polls are the only reason he's considering it -- and of course the corresponding Governor polls are why he's not going to risk losing at running for Governor.

Guiliani always polls well when he's not actually running for things. Then he fades. Gillibrand, on the other hand, has increasing poll ratings, which is pretty hard to do these days. She'll have no problem with him.

by fsm 2009-11-19 11:15AM | 0 recs
Re: NYDN: Giuliani Will Run for Senate... then Pre

He's a paper tiger.

by bruh3 2009-11-19 10:43AM | 0 recs
Re: NYDN: Giuliani

Buhahahahaha!  New Yorker's vote him in, knowing what they know of him, they deserve him.

by Hammer1001 2009-11-19 10:43AM | 0 recs
Re: NYDN: Giuliani Will Run for Senate

I don't think NYers will particularly care that Rudy is planning a run for President. Hillary was under some of those similar attacks as well.

That said I don't know how good his chances are - he pretty much sold his soul during the GOP primary. And the dems will bring out the big guns to preserve the seat. On the the bad side, playing defense in NY will stretch our resources in other areas. Which means we probably will loose 2-3 seats in 2010 senate...

by vecky 2009-11-19 10:47AM | 0 recs
Hillary, at least, waited six years

here, it seems pretty clear he plans to run for President right away.

by ND22 2009-11-19 10:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary, at least, waited six years

I really can't fathom why Rudy would think that serving part of a Senate term would give him a better platform from which to run for President, other than the same sort of misguided political ego that leads people like Chris Dodd to picture themselves occupying the Oval Office.

It's not like the problem with Rudy's 2008 run was the absence of a launching pad.  The problem was that once people got to know him, particularly non-East Coast people, they found him completely unappealing.  If he couldn't get traction as "The Hero of 9/11," he's sure as heck not getting traction as "The Junior Senator from New York"!

by Steve M 2009-11-19 10:59AM | 0 recs
Re: NYDN: Giuliani Will Run for Senate

The question would certainly come up and if any evidence is unearthed that indicates he is considering a run for pres, I think NYers would turn against him very quickly.  More importantly, the more people know of Giuliani, the less they like him.  And I would bet there are tons of skeletons that have yet to be unpacked.  He has never gone far enough in a campaign to have his record looked at closely.  He cannot withstand such scrutiny- trust me.

by orestes 2009-11-19 11:00AM | 0 recs
Look at most recent Siena Poll

Rudy only leads 49-43

by Jonmac 2009-11-19 10:48AM | 0 recs
Re: NYDN: Giuliani Will Run for Senate

sounds like Gilibrand better raise her profile post haste.  shaking hands, kissing babies, maybe trying to become a spokes person for health care reform.  unless she makes the calculation to run right in response.

by goodleh 2009-11-19 12:01PM | 0 recs
I've been hearing a lot from her lately

on her opposition to the Stupak Amendment and support for the public option.

by ND22 2009-11-19 01:05PM | 0 recs
Gillibrand should have never been appointed

I think Democrats saw her as Presidential material and thought that putting her in the Senate seat would be a good thing for the future.  If she loses this race, her career is wrecked.  

by Kent 2009-11-19 01:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Gillibrand should have never been appointed

But what if she wins this race, as I assure you she will?

by Steve M 2009-11-19 02:32PM | 0 recs
oh please

Paterson could have appointed Jesus and you'd still be crying that he was going to lose.

by ND22 2009-11-19 02:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Gillibrand should have never been appointed

See...confirmation that it was right to appoint her and that she will clean the floor with Rudy.

by fsm 2009-11-19 02:36PM | 0 recs
I think the days

when NYers were willing to elect GOPs for federal office at the state-wide level are gone.

by JJE 2009-11-19 02:41PM | 0 recs
If Jacob Javitz came back

he might have a chance...Charles Goodell too...oh who am I kidding, they'd both be Democrats today.

by ND22 2009-11-19 03:17PM | 0 recs
Re: I think the days

We will test this theory when the NY GOP comes up with a credible candidate, which might be a while.  Rudy ain't it.

by Steve M 2009-11-19 03:29PM | 0 recs

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