Nonpartisan pollster Del Ali, whose Research 2000 is generally on the money, asks if Sarah Palin is "the worst selection by a major party nominee for President in modern times"? As it turns out, Spiro Agnew, to whom Palin bears a distinct resemblance, was probably a worse pick (indeed he was forced to resign from office as a result of a corruption scandal), and going back in time the pick of 81 year-old millionaire Henry Davis back in 1904 was probably not the greatest (Davis had actually two terms as a Senator under his belt) Indianapolis City Solicitor John Kern in 1908 was probably not the greatest.

But perhaps even more than what the pollsters and pundits are telling us, it's the sentiments of Alaskans that really stand out. Take this one, for instance:

The reaction wasn't so rosy elsewhere. State Senate President Lyda Green said she thought it was a joke when someone called her at 6 a.m. to tell her the news.

"She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? said Green, a Republican from Palin's hometown of Wasilla. "Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?"

With the prospect of John McCain being the oldest person ever elected to a first term as President, the fact that Palin was the mayor of a small town just over a year and a half ago and even others in her party in Alaska, who know her best, all but admitting that she's not prepared to be Governor, let alone Vice President or President, is likely to weigh heavily on the minds of American voters come November.

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But she has great legs

Limbaugh went on and on calling her a "Babe" and how Palin shows off her legs, unlike Hillary.

That's what they've been reduced to.  They're saying Palin is superior to Hillary because of the shape of her calves.

by Al Rodgers 2008-08-30 08:55AM | 0 recs
Dem's In Shock

It is utterly hilarious to see the Dem's scramble as Sarah shocks their election daydreams.

First we hear she is another Quayle or even Spiro Agnew and then they see her Dayton appearance and the recent TV interviews and find a sharp,attractive,articulate, and strong woman. Nope, she ain't Dan Quayle and her personal story just goes on and on and on with attributes that attract important segments of the electorate.

The Dem's looking for a "Quayle" moment will not find it. Go to YouTube and bring up all of the video interviews of Gov. Palin, as I have, and watch an extremely talented pol do her work.

The Republican evangelical base is on fire, she will pull in new votes in the West (Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and Montana), and her power in small town America will be over the top.

What a brillant choice!

by oliver777 2008-08-30 10:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Dem's In Shock

Not really, the latino vote will put out that "fire". But thanks for showing us that you really are a McTroll.

by venician 2008-08-30 10:03AM | 0 recs
Re: Dem's In Shock

You shitty Candidate McCain will beaten like a drum on Election Day.  It will be a nice mandate giving blowout.  Thank you to the party of stupid ideas, the GOP.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 10:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Dem's In Shock

Oh wow, does she actually talk about anything other than Alaska in those videos? No? That's what I thought. It's easy to sound smart in interviews when you've had a dozen years worth of experience in your subject area.

by vcalzone 2008-08-30 10:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Dem's In Shock

since we know nothing or little about her ... excuse me if I question your psychic ability to push her "strong" credentials.   She is a governor is a state 1/5th the size of Chicago, a mayor of a town smaller than my home owners association, and out of that you deem to us that she is "strong".


by Monkei 2008-08-30 10:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Dem's In Shock

I can only speak from here in Colorado.
WE are a pro-choice State. The anti-choice life at conception thing on our ballot will go down big..
Indy's who had some doubts about Obama being ready are not going to embrace Palin whose experience is limited to being mayor of a hamlet of 9,000 and Gov of Alaska for a couple of years.

A simple question.
Would YOU be comfortable with her in the oval office?

by nogo postal 2008-08-30 10:40AM | 0 recs
Republican politicians dislike her

Of course she has held on to an over 80% approval rating.  The fact the old school politician dislike her plays into their "country first" slogan and real change in washington motif.

by Classical Liberal 2008-08-30 08:58AM | 0 recs
Re: Republican politicians dislike her

It's down to 64% now...

She's made no friends in the AK republican party... she made her career going after them...  but, it's nice to see that it might end up turning on her in a critical time...

by LordMike 2008-08-30 09:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Republican politicians dislike her

McCain made a career out of going after Republicans too.  Of course if elected it will be just another 4 years of Bush....right?

by Classical Liberal 2008-08-30 10:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Republican politicians dislike her

She went after Republicans in a majority Republican state?

Help me. How is that bad?

by dMarx 2008-08-30 10:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Republican politicians dislike her

It's good for us, actually.... we will probably pick up a senate and house seat as a result of it...  It was certainly good for her career... not so good for the other people in power, though...

by LordMike 2008-08-30 10:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Republican politicians dislike her

Yeah I have a feeling the quote from Lyda above was a revenge shot across the bough.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 10:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Republican politicians dislike her

She wasn't saying "I don't like her"  She was saying that she had done terrible things to the state, and that she is unqualified to be both governor, and VP.

Thanks for defending her, though.  Good on you.

by lojasmo 2008-08-30 09:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Republican politicians dislike her

She killed the town she was mayor of with an unworkable land deal that has cost them over a million dollars they can't pay.

by vcalzone 2008-08-30 10:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Republican politicians dislike her

THAT is what needs to be in a commercial... The Resume of Sarah Palin.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 10:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Republican politicians dislike her

Old School Rethuglicans hating is not a weakness, it's a strength - they wanted what they had and she said no . . . this directly appeals to INDEPENDENTS

Gov. Jesse Ventura was hated by old school Rethugs and old school Dems ... he got all the Independents and moderates from both parties.

by wasanyonehurt 2008-08-30 09:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Republican politicians dislike her

I know you THINK you know what your talking about but you don't.  Everytime you post your ignorance embarasses you.  I would suggest you stop promoting a pice of crap like McCain and Palin on a Dem blog.  Unlike the RW blogs, we are actually high info voters.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 10:41AM | 0 recs
Speaking of Lyda Green...

Even if you don't like DKos, you really should check this out: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/ 81444/5625/741/579968

Seems like McCain isn't the only one who finds calling a woman "bitch" is hilarious.  His veep does him one better by finding it hilarious when Lyda Green, a Republican state senator, mother, and cancer survivor, is called a "bitch," a "cancer," and a lousy mother.

What a disgusting person.

by Elsinora 2008-08-30 09:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

I'm sick of hearing that Palin and Obama have equivalent experience. I'm sorry, but being in the Illinois State Senate for two terms then being elected to represent 11 million Illinoisans to the US Senate where national and international policy is formulated and debated has a hell of a lot more credence than Palin's mayorship and less-than-one term as the AK governor, a state with fewer people than metro Toledo where she quite possibly abused her power within the first 18 months she was there. I don't suggest that this is her weakest point or the sole reason she is completely unfit to represent most of us as VP, but it's the meme of the moment. Please, stop.

by marycone 2008-08-30 09:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Using the GOP's "executive experience" actually, Palin actually has more "executive experience" than McCain!

It's more than just "experience" though, it's talent and preparedness.  Obama was a constitutional scholar, she was a TV reporter...  Obama went a long, strong campaign and managed to win over 2,000,000 individual donors to his campaign.  She didn't even know what a vice president did a month ago...  Obama personally came to an agreement with Iraq's leaders over withdrawal of troops... Palin said that she really never thought much about Iraq and had no opinion on it.

by LordMike 2008-08-30 09:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Obama personally came to an agreement with Iraq's leaders over withdrawal of troops?  Did I miss that one? Where was that reported?

by dMarx 2008-08-30 10:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Now THAT'S a fairpoint ... Lord Mike overstated things.  The Iraqi government agreed with Obama's plan and Bush, in a surprising display of good judgement (even a broken clock is right twice a day), has basically taken Obama's plan and put it into action.  McCain is the only one stupid enough to oppose... the Iraqis and Bush BOTH have embraced it.  

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 10:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Listen, I don't want to defend this Republican, but we need to be consistent.  What does the number of people in a state have to do with anything?  Are you saying someone representing California (the most populous state) would be more qualified just because they come from a big state?  That seems silly to me.

by BRockNYC 2008-08-30 09:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Actually, yes... California is the 5th largest economy in the world.  It's practically its own country!

by LordMike 2008-08-30 09:15AM | 0 recs
Is there a difference...

...between running a store and running a Fortune 500 company?

by thurst 2008-08-30 09:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a difference...

So planning budgets, administration, civic duties and running things like:

Law Enforcement
Land & Public Development
Social Programs

Are Inconsequential and Totally Inferior because we have smaller budgets???? than those living in IL, CA, NY, TX . ...

. . . think about the line that your pushing here.

by wasanyonehurt 2008-08-30 09:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a difference...


Alaska is completely and utterly unique among other states, even Hawaii. The budget utilizes an Alaskan Reserve fund that comes directly from the federal government, for one. Secondly, her plan was to tax the hell out of oil companies, and that won't happen under a national Republican government. If it does, I'd be ecstatic, but they won't let her.

In fact, they won't let her do anything that colors outside the lines. She's happy now, but she will soon find out (just like Colin Powell did) that being appointed doesn't mean they actually want to listen to what you have to say.

by vcalzone 2008-08-30 10:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a difference...

I ran a small company. We had operations, a budget, sales, marketing, and distribution. But I would be really surprised if I would be selected to run a Fortune 500 company any time soon.

by benb 2008-08-30 11:13AM | 0 recs
The point is...

Yes, there is a difference and there's no line to push...if you want to believe running Rhode Island and running New York are the same thing, well, there's a bridge about a mile from where I'm sitting in the latter, I'll give it to you for cheap.

It has nothing to do with whether I think one state is better than the other, it's simple logic.

Let's make it more basic, I run a department with 2 people in it; you run one with 100 people in it.  We both do a good job at it.  Which one of us is likely to have had to deal with more varied sources of problems, overcome more obstacles, etc.  Which one is another company more likely to hire?

I'm trying to be patient, but answer me, are you really concerned with getting a Democrat elected and/or progressive causes championed, or would you rather tear things down?  It doesn't seem like you're doing much else on this site...

by thurst 2008-08-30 11:41AM | 0 recs
Re: The point is...

Chill out and get a drink thursty . . .

Since you like analogies so much here's another one: you're the American Interior Secretary pop.300mil, Natl.Parks 10,000 employees; I'm Switzerland's Interior Sec. pop 8mill, Swiss Alps 500 employees.  Same duties no less important in the eyes of the Swiss people, right?

Assessing States of the Union and comparing them to running a company serves no purpose and is not an adequate measure of states for most, especially progressives.  It's for unfeeling Rethug's that are owned by corporations to make an analogy like that.

You don't win votes that way.  Attack Palin's support for the failed McBush policies or conservative views . . .  If you're gonna denigrate her state, it only serves to make us look petty and potentially annoy voters who don't live in your big states.

by wasanyonehurt 2008-08-30 12:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a difference...

Did you apply that voodoo math by voting for Hillary (NY) vs Obama (IL) ?

by shattertheceiling 2008-08-30 09:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a difference...

I hope Jerome, Todd and Jonathan start moderating again.  Notice these trolls aren't on Openleft... because Bowers will ban them pretty fast as they are idiots who add nothing to the conversation.   It was that way on MyDD before he left and it seems to have dropped out some this week during the convention after cracking down once the primaries were over.

The is a Democratic Blog.   We don't like the GOP.  We think John McCain is a bitter evil piece of garbage, just like most Republican politicians, including the incompetent corrupt Sarah Palin.   If you don't like it, GO THE HELL AWAY.   Go to Redstate where they will applaud your simplistic viewpoint on destroying the country instead of getting your jollies trolling.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 10:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a difference...

That's it? Your cry is to ban people when they point out the lack of logic in an argument?

You know how stupid it sounds? This is the same logic applied against the rights for women and minorities decades ago.  Ban them from the social, Geo-political, political arena!

by shattertheceiling 2008-08-30 10:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a difference...

Hear, Hear, damnit!

by xodus1914 2008-08-31 05:24PM | 0 recs
That's just absurd...

Yeesh, experience is not the only metric that I would apply for voting for President...that's basic logic.

If you want to believe that running something small is exactly the same as running something large, be my guest...if you want to say that makes perfect sense, well, good luck with that!  

by thurst 2008-08-30 11:35AM | 0 recs
Re: That's just absurd...

If you want to believe that running something small is exactly the same as running something large, be my guest

Did you not(or voters alike) field that argument for choosing Obama? ALA...

" look he was this community organizer" .

by shattertheceiling 2008-08-30 11:45AM | 0 recs
And voodoo math????!!!!!


saying 100 is more than 50 is "voodoo math"...last I checked, that was just "math"....

Is up down?

by thurst 2008-08-30 11:44AM | 0 recs
Re: And voodoo math????!!!!!

Huh? what are you talking about.

I was replying to the notion that it is silly to say Palain is to be discounted because she is from a small state ( population) and because that she was a mayor of a small town when compared to IL.    

I submitted that- how come one did not take this new calculation into account in the primaries. When voting for Hillary and NY's populous  + her white house exp vs Obama's IL state senate exp and IL's population numbers.

by shattertheceiling 2008-08-30 11:54AM | 0 recs
You're right.

Palin isn't discountable because the town and state she briefly ran are small.  She is discountable because she ran that small town and state badly.

If a person mismanages a small business (analogous in this case to any state, regardless of population), do you offer them a CEO position at a major company (the country)--or even a position as assistant to the CEO?  Hell no.  Same holds true here.

by Elsinora 2008-08-30 09:19PM | 0 recs

the goopers said that for years to defect Reagan's thin resume and lack of foreign policy.

They can't have it both ways.  Take their sword and use it against them.  Atleast, that's what Hillary would do.

by Al Rodgers 2008-08-30 09:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Well, yes, they would.  If you're a Senator from California you have to know vastly more things about many more people and places, and you have to be prepared to discuss water policy in Los Angeles or forestry on the Oregon border.  It's a vast, diverse state that if it were on any other continent, would be its own country.

So yes, a Senator from California with otherwise similar credentials would be vastly more qualified than a Senator from a smaller state.

by auronrenouille 2008-08-30 10:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Where does being a Senator from Deleware fit in?

by Classical Liberal 2008-08-30 10:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

I disagree with you 100%.   Governor of states of various sizes are different.... and even then, the way the government is run makes a difference... look at Texas where the Governor is more figurehead than executive (and explains a lot about the fuckups of the Bush presidency).  

State size might bring a unique viewpoint, but doesn't make the person a better leader.  A lot of its the individual... an 18 month Senator from Cali might have unique leadership, vision or insights when compared to a 6 term senator from South Carolina.  That's why Hillary was seen as more qualified when she started and why Obama was well regarded as well.  Their past experiences or visions for the country set them apart.... not the fact they were from IL or NY.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 10:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

That's one of the reasons that Guiliani and Bloomberg were viewed as legitimate candidates by many people... because they oversea the biggest city in the country... a city bigger than a lot of states.  Now of course saying they run NY the way someone runs a state or country may be a bit simplistic... but many people see it that way.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 10:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Experience in Chicago politics hardly expresses change.  FYI - the state has almost exactly the same number of citizens as deleware.  

by Classical Liberal 2008-08-30 10:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

200,000 difference... I wouldn't call that the same.   If you want to support McDouchebag do so, but none of us care about you or what you have to say.  Go to Redstate where your POV will be appreciated.  Save everyone the aggrevation.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 10:36AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

yeah but the wingnuts are all fired up over her because your daughter who god help her might be raped and impregnated would have to have the baby.   that makes here the only one out there to take on the anti-christ Obama.

by Monkei 2008-08-30 10:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Again, if she is unprepared for the second slot Obama is unprepared for the first slot.  This is a line of argument that Democrats need to avoid.  Just stop it.  Find another way to attack.

Ask yourself, would you have said that Kiane was unprepared?  I doubt it.  Fact is, Obama is the one that says experience doesn't matter.  He proclaims that judgement matters.  So, at least try to be consistent.

by BRockNYC 2008-08-30 09:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

I agree. We should be using her inexperience to ward off criticisms of Obama, not the the way around where we make inexperience a valid topic.

by Pravin 2008-08-30 09:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

You're right... the focus should be not on experience, but qualifications and preparedness... last month she said she didn't even know what the VP did for a living...

It's possible that she has great political talent.... she did manage to win governorship against an entrenched incumbent, so she does have something going for her... it's important to see what, though...

by LordMike 2008-08-30 09:13AM | 0 recs
This is Kooky

so you're sayin' the goopers can continue to to be consistent and scream their inexperience meme even in light of Mayor 8,471.

Hell, McSame didn't even know her name, he had to read it off an index card.

you so dishonor Hillary.  

by Al Rodgers 2008-08-30 09:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Obama has 8 years of state level experience and 4 years of national experience.

thats 12 years of state and national experience

Kaine was on the richmond city council for 7 years befor its mayor . (richmond is the capitol of virginia compared to les than 9.000 population wassila)He was the mayor for 3 years.

Next he was Lt Gov of virginia for 4 years and the Governor now for over 3.  Thats 7 years alone of state wide executive experience.

Palin has 18 months as govenor before she was the mayor of a small town with a population of less than  9,000.

its not even close.

by Leftyy2k4 2008-08-30 09:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

You could argue that she is the only canidate with executive exprience though.

by Classical Liberal 2008-08-30 10:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

So did Jesse Ventura. Your point?

by vcalzone 2008-08-30 10:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

yeah, Bush had a ton of that.

by Monkei 2008-08-30 10:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

And you'd be laughed at for making a technically correct but extremely stupid and illogical argument.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 12:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Going down to judgement, picking her shows a complete lack of it.

Obama was ELECTED by the party based on vision, judgment and a host of other factors.  President is as much a VISION position as anything else.  the VP is an advisor, not the VISION guy but the person to help implement the vision of the President.    The job of the VP is to advise, takeover for the president if needed and help him implement his Vision.  

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 10:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Let's forget about the politics of the choice. I'll agree, the politics of the choice is strategic, but can you seriously look someone in the eye and say (that if GOD forbid something happened to McCain if he were to become President, and I don't mean death per se, let's say he somehow was shot like Reagan) you believe that Sarah Palin is qualified to take over in your gut.  

To put it in another way, if something were to happen to McCain or Obama if either became President,  Who would you want to answer that "3a.m. call"? Joe Biden or Sarah Palin?  Please be honest, no politics, no spin, no talking points.

by lamh3176 2008-08-30 02:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

I personally think of Quayle as one of the worst picks ever. This guy was such a dunderhead. Palin is more of a leader than Quayle ever could be.

Again, what we think doesnt matter. Objectively, i find Cheney to be the most evil VP ever. Unfortunately it wasnt the dumbest pick ever as right wingers loved the guy.

by Pravin 2008-08-30 09:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Worse than Admiral Stockdale.

by anoregonreader 2008-08-30 09:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared


by LordMike 2008-08-30 09:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared


Who am I?

Why am I here?


by BRockNYC 2008-08-30 09:16AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

I knew Vice Admiral Stockdale when I was at the Academy.

He was a true hero, but a very poor choice for the public spotlight.  I wish Perot had not subjected him to that.

by Stipes 2008-08-30 09:24AM | 0 recs

Should never have been subjected to that by Perot.  The guy was a true hero.  

by Tangie3 2008-08-30 10:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Yeah, that's why I wrote the last few sentences--i don't think this is the way to go on criticizing Palin, but the insistence that all experience is equal, or that "executive experience" regardless of the forum trumps any other, is parroting the MSM and Republican theme. I just offered this as a reality check on what I thought was a Democratic forum (among friends, right?). Sorry to stir the pot. Again, i think the qualities of leadership, the ability to make good judgements are why i support Obama.

by marycone 2008-08-30 09:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Check out People Magazine article on McCain and Palin.  Lovely pictures of both families -- so many kids!

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,, 20222685_1,00.html

Can you guess what's missing....
If you guessed Bridget McCain their teenage adopted daughter, who is about 100 shades darker than Mr or Mrs McCain then you are definitely not a GOPer.  

Question, will Bridget be joining the McCains on stage at the Republican convention?

Is Palin also on board with hiding Bridget McCain?  Is that the Christian thing to do in her church?

by BSelznick 2008-08-30 09:15AM | 0 recs

McSame looks soooooooooooooooooooooooooo uncomfortable in this picture.  It's like he's embarrassed to be photographed with Palin.

Look at this hands.  Both of them are clasped in complete tension.

by Al Rodgers 2008-08-30 09:21AM | 0 recs
Re: OH MY GAUD !!!!

Doesn't it look like he's leaning away from them?

by Stipes 2008-08-30 09:26AM | 0 recs
Re: OH MY GAUD !!!!

Maybe he thinks down syndrome is contagious.

by lojasmo 2008-08-30 09:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Your focus is wrong.  We need to keep it on McCain.  The whole idea of this pick is a diversionary tactic, take the focus off Bush and the economy and put it on side issues: is she unprepared, abortion,  sexism, etc, etc. This pick is not about Palin.  It is about McCain - reckless and impulsive.  It is another display that he doesn't have the temperament and judgement to lead this country.

by Piuma 2008-08-30 09:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Don't worry, it'll be moved back.  However you can't attack McCain based on his VP choice until you get people to dislike that choice.  It's a long term strategy here.

by thezzyzx 2008-08-30 10:02AM | 0 recs

I think you have the winning formula!

by Sandy1938 2008-08-30 10:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

I think there is room for more than one attack narrative.  Palin needs to be defined before the GOP defines her.  So you HAVE To define her NOW... look how hard it has been to crack Mr 94%'s maverick BS reputation.

by yitbos96bb 2008-08-30 10:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

OK-this line from the People interview is the show stopper:

What's on the dinner table most often in the Palin house?
TODD: Our favorite is moose hot dogs, caribou hot dogs.

by wasder 2008-08-30 10:07AM | 0 recs
yes, but who will tell them?

The media will fluff Klondike Barbie (a/k/a Santorum in a Dress) all the way to Novemner.  It's worrisome.

by Tangie3 2008-08-30 10:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Are you sure she was Mayor a year and a half ago?

I think that is mis-reported.

She was Governor a year and a half ago.

And before that she was head of Alaska's ethics commission for the oil industry.  I think she hasn't been mayor for a few years ... but I could be wrong.

by dMarx 2008-08-30 10:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

google Wacilla, AK and see who their past mayors were.

by Monkei 2008-08-30 10:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Do you mean Wasilla? Why don't you google it yoursel?

She was last elected mayor in 1999. Do you think they have 8 year terms or something?  Think about it.

Anyway, the town looks beautiful.


by dMarx 2008-08-30 12:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Fine. Not a year and a half ago, a year and 2/3 ago.

by vcalzone 2008-08-30 10:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Don't embarrass yourself. Do your research. She was mayor from 1996 to 2002.  After that she was Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, from 2003 to 2004 until she resigned in protest of a "lack of ethics" of  Republican leaders.  She was became mayor in 2006. It is now 2008. Just so you will know.

by dMarx 2008-08-30 12:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

I think she was last mayor in 2002.  So I guess the fact is that she was governor a year and a half ago and has not been mayor for 6 years.

by dMarx 2008-08-30 10:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Oh, touche. So she has even LESS experience.

by vcalzone 2008-08-30 10:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

That depends on when she became mayor.  She was first elected mayor in 1996.

by dMarx 2008-08-30 12:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

She is totally unprepared.  Obama is minimally prepared.  Welcome to the politics of personality where you can win over the people with hope or fear. This is what comes of elections being decided on the basis of who you might like to have a beer with, or whether someone screams at a rally.  This is what comes of an electorate that is led by a media that looks at politics as a horse race or a beauty contest.  This is what comes of a stupid electorate that consistently votes against their best interest because Rupert Murdoch and the money men keep them uninformed and stupid. I am so disgusted by American politics, I could puke.

by candideinnc 2008-08-30 10:52AM | 0 recs
Second worst

...to Eagleton

by greenvtster 2008-08-30 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

I think Lyda Green is part of the corrupt Republican establishment that Palin has been trying to change in Alaska.

I know I'm sounding pro-Palin, but I respect the lady.  Doesn't mean I agree with her, doesn't mean I'll vote for her, but I do respect her.

by toonsterwu 2008-08-30 12:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

What exactly do you respect about her? That she believes her daughter should have to bear the child of a rapist? Or that she enjoys shooting animals from helicopters? Or that she has lobbied aggressively to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, pushed for more drilling off of Alaska's coasts, or put special interests above science. Or that she appears to be unwilling to do even as much as the Bush administration to address the impacts of global warming? Or that she laughed while offensive radio talk show hosts called Lyda Green a bitch? So what exactly about her do you respect as it relates to her potentially becoming VP or SVP?

by Dari 2008-08-30 04:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

With the all the bashing of Obama over Foreign Policy, can anyone seriously look anyone in the eye and say (that if GOD forbid something happened to McCain if he were to become President, and I don't mean death per se, let's say he somehow was shot like Reagan) you believe that Sarah Palin is qualified to take over.

To put it in another way, if something were to happen to McCain or Obama if either became President,  Who would you want to answer that "3a.m. call"? Joe Biden or Sarah Palin?  Please be honest, and no spin or talking points.

by lamh3176 2008-08-30 02:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

It's hilarious to see all the Republicans sent to this site to try to stir things up. As if any of them think a single one of us is foolish enough to vote Republican.

Sara Palin is exactly the kind of Republican I don't want near the White House. She makes John McCain look almost reasonable, but then again he picked her  so that doesn't bode well for him.

by Dari 2008-08-30 04:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

Thank God for Palin. McCain just handed Obama the election. There is no way this lady can be taken seriously. She needs to loose the glasses and put on a pant-suit if she wants credibility. She looks like m.i.l.f material and that what EVERY straight man thinks when he sees her. Please this is so embarassing for the GOP. Honestly, NO HRC voter could EVER support her. She is a RADICAL. Wait till American Women finds out about her record. There jaws are going to drop. Pro-life (no matter what) against gay rights and now laughing at a woman who has cancer? WTF please. Dude this shit is going nowhere. Yes

by nzubechukwu 2008-08-30 06:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Unprepared

We need to be careful, folks.  Being that we've just nominated one of the least experienced (although, yes, fully vetted during the primary process) major party presidential candidates in living memory, and the arguement can be made that she has more years of elective experience (and particularly executive experience) than Senator Obama, mean and dismissive comments about Governor Palin can easily be categorized as elitist and sexist.

Clearly, this pick by Senator McCain has caught everyone flatfooted.  More troubling to me is that, although she is a knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, anti-choice conservative, she is as articulate & charismatic as Senator Obama, but a bit more down-to-earth and with an equally appealing personal story.  Sure, Senator Biden is much more experienced and seasoned than Sen. McCain, Sen. Obama & Gov. Palin combined, but I can see Gov. Palin cutting his legs out in the debate by simply saying "that's a typical long-winded, Washington DC insider-type answer, Joe, and I think the country is ready for something different."

To be honest, what I've seen from us progressives since she was announced on Friday is a bit of fear and a lot of a double-standard.  For all of her positions with which we disagree, she sure will have a strong appeal to small town folks who cling to their guns on Saturday and their God on Sunday.  Let's hope her appeal isn't strong enough to get more of those folks out to the polls than we can get our new voters!

by darrenfelipe 2008-08-31 11:15AM | 0 recs


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