Joe Lieberman's Last Throes

Seriously, Lieberman has hitched his ride to this failed war, to this obstructionist senate minority and to this sad excuse for a Republican candidate and, unfortunately, has full confidence that nothing will be done about kicking him out of the caucus and stripping him of his committee chairmanship before November -- and probably not before January. When we count down to our 60 vote majority, let's remember, truly, we need to pick up 10 seats, not 9. We need to make this guy absolutely irrelevant.

From The Hill:

On a conference call with reporters arranged by the McCain campaign, Lieberman, the 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee, called the Democratic response to McCain's remarks "another partisan attempt to distort John McCain's words."

"To put it mildly, I'm disappointed by these reflexive attacks on what Sen. McCain said on the 'Today Show' this morning," Lieberman said. He added: "I regret these comments made today, and I hope we can get back to the facts." [...]

Lieberman said he finds it "most outrageous" to suggest McCain is out of touch.

You want to see what a real Connecticut Democrat looks like? Here's Jim Himes, challenger to Bush rubberstamp Chris Shays in CT-04, on McCain's comments today and the importance of bringing our troops home.

"John McCain's comments this morning are not only sorely out-of-touch, they are also hurtful to the families of troops serving in Iraq for whom nothing is more important than knowing when their loved ones will come home.

"If Chris Shays was serious about bringing our troops home, he wouldn't be co-chairing John McCain's campaign in Connecticut. Just like his party's standard-bearer, Chris Shays is deeply confused and out-of-touch when it comes to Iraq. In 2006 he promised voters he would support timelines, only to vote against them three times in 2007. Now, in 2008, he says he supports President Bush on Iraq and is working hard to elect an administration that clearly intends to keep American troops in harms way in Iraq for years if not decades.

"Connecticut families know we cannot afford a third term of the Bush-McCain-Shays policy on Iraq. It is long past time to give the Iraqi government a clear timeline for the full redeployment of American troops so we can start focusing on the challenges that face us here at home."

Check out Josh Marshall's excellent video about Lieberman's betrayal of Democrats (especially of Obama who, you'll recall, agreed NOT to campaign for Ned Lamont in 2006) and what we all can do to help nudge Democratic senate leadership to boot him from the caucus once our increased majority is sworn in.

Tags: CT-04, Jim Himes, Joe Lieberman, John McCain (all tags)



Joe Lieberman

the man without a party -- he is not a member of the CT Independent Party, nor is he a member of Connecticut for Lieberman -- should be expunged from the Democratic Party via Connecticut General Statute 9-60.  He has violated, explicitly, the clear intent of the law by supporting a Republican candidate.  I want to know that he is begging for attention in November -- only to be laughed at and shunned.

by gchaucer2 2008-06-11 04:38PM | 0 recs
They need a recall election there.

I'm surprised I haven't heard of any efforts yet, I know polls show voters there having definite buyers remorse

by mikeinsf 2008-06-11 04:43PM | 0 recs
Re: They need a recall election there.

Is this possible?  Is there any historical precedence to pull it off?

I have assumed for a long time the answer is no because I would assume we would have a grass roots movement to get it going.

I would be willing to make a sizeable monetary donation plus as much labor I could voulenteer.

Netroots are you listening?

Harry Reid needs to get off the boat and denounce him now and remove his committee memberships.

by CrushTheGOP2008 2008-06-11 04:51PM | 0 recs
Re: They need a recall election there.

Sadly, Connecticut is not one of the 18 states with recall laws.  Also, typically recall laws apply to "state officials" - not U.S. Congressman.  Impeachment is probably the proper route.

by XoFalconXo 2008-06-11 04:57PM | 0 recs
Re: They need a recall election there.

I don't believe the Constitution permits recall elections, sadly,   One of the few points the FF's missed.

by jroyale 2008-06-11 04:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Joe Lieberman's Last Throes

So about needing that 60 votes threshold.  It isn't like needing 60 votes to prevent a filibuster is craved into the Constitution, nor is the filibuster for that matter.  It's part of the rules of the Senate that reauthorized at the being of each session.  

And I suspect (and god forbid it happens in my lifetime) the next time the Republican rule the Senate, they'll neuter the filibuster to their advantage, so I say beat them to the punch.  If we only end up with 57 Democratic senators, I say we change the number of votes needed for closure to 57 and just let the Republicans whine while we clean up their mess.

by jroyale 2008-06-11 04:45PM | 0 recs
Only Republicans get to be "partisan"

Just like only Republicans can get away with destroying the balanced budget and then shrug their shoulders and get away with it.

If a Democratic president displayed the utter indifference to governing effectively that Reagan and Bush I and Bush II have done the press would be screaming 24/7 for impeachment and removal.

This is what we have to fix, the flat bias of a media that is owned by right-wing corporations.

As for Joe Lieberman -- he flat doesn't care. He knows that if McCain wins he'll join the McCain administration as defense secretary.

If Obaama wins he can join the Republicans and they'll give him all his committee assignments. Of course he'll be in the minority, but he'll still be able to do whatever he can to thwart any real change.

He knows that there's nothing they can do to him anyway. If they are mean to him and he bolts the party before the election, that gives Darth Cheney the tie-breaking vote to control the Senate. And you know Bush would use that to try and ram through a bunch of 11th hour appointments to the federal courts and other independent federal agencies or something.

These Republicans are utterly and totally shameless. Don't underestimate what havoc they could do if they got even 15 more minutes of power in Congress.

Fully expect Bush to attack Iran if McCain is losing come September 15. That way Bush guarantees a major crisis that Obama can't just start withdrawing the troops. Bush is desperate to lock-in his war so it can't be reversed.

by Cugel 2008-06-11 10:39PM | 0 recs
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2012 can't come soon enough.  Here's hoping the GOP runs a credible candidate and Joe doesn't rack up 80% of the Republican vote again.

by Skaje 2008-06-11 05:01PM | 0 recs

this fool be recalled? If so, come Nov.5th the recall push should start!

by kevin22262 2008-06-11 05:02PM | 0 recs
When is reid

going to stop feeding us this 60 vote crap? MAKE THEM REALLY FILIBUSTER! Every single time they want to filibuster make them REALLY do it!

by kevin22262 2008-06-11 05:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Joe Lieberman's Last Throes

When we count down to our 60 vote majority, let's remember, truly, we need to pick up 10 seats, not 9. We need to make this guy absolutely irrelevant.

Actually, JoeMo isn't the only DINO, just the most obvious one. Democrats need to pick up 17 seats to truly neutralize the less obvious ones who consistently side with the GOP in blocking progress and toeing the corporate line.

by Freespeechzone 2008-06-11 05:07PM | 0 recs
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I'm glad Josh Marshall found the clip of the 2006 election about getting a Democrat in the White House.  Someone needs to ask him about it, and note that at the time he said it Obama and Hillary were clearly the likely candidates and their policies were known, so he knew he was lying.  

by bosdcla14 2008-06-11 05:12PM | 0 recs
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Here's the link to the website of the Senate Democratic Steering and Outreach Committee. Let 'em know how you feel about Holy Joe, especially if they're your Senator. ex.cfm?pg=6

by fugazi 2008-06-11 05:20PM | 0 recs
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If McStain picks him as VP, would they still leave him in the caucus?

by alectimmerman 2008-06-11 05:48PM | 0 recs
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Lieberman may be an asshole but he will be in the Senate until 2013. If he leaves for any reason, the Republican Governor will nominate a Republican Senator to serve out his term. It's a lose-lose situation but I want him in the Senate.

by bsavage 2008-06-11 08:01PM | 0 recs
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I want him out of his committee chairmanship in November and not a second after. Its time for Al Gore to get involved and publically scold Lieberman and defend Obama. The only reason anyone really cares what Holy Joe says is because Gore made him a national figure in 2000. Where are you Al?

by rossinatl 2008-06-11 08:06PM | 0 recs
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Al Gore is doing his own thing, and I can't ever see him doing anything in politics other than a speech or a fundraiser. He is more popular with his work on the environment than he ever was as a candidate or VP. Lieberman is right wing on forein policy but he is still a liberal on social and domestic policy issues. In some ways he is much better than Ben Nelson of Nebraska.

by bsavage 2008-06-11 08:12PM | 0 recs
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Who cares if Lieberman is a little bit liberal on some issues. Lieberman has shown that he is willing to compromise on that to avoid pissing off the Bushies because Lieberman considers Iraq war more important than all the other issues combined. Look at how he gave a free pass to Bush on katrina. Harry Reid should be ashamed of himself for saying that hthey wont consider removing Lieberman even if Dems win a majority. And i believe him. I really think Reid is fine with lieberman in the position he is in.

by Pravin 2008-06-11 11:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Joe Lieberman's Last Throes

Things to Worry about after Obama Wins, not before: the fate of Ho Lieberman

by NY Writer 2008-06-11 08:23PM | 0 recs
Even Kos bashed Obama for lieberman support

It just goes to show you that even people at Kos are not  100% blind loyalists. Kos wrote a diary(as did I in the past) blasting Obama for his lack of support for Lamont(it was very unenthusiastic after the primary win). And for all the respect Obama paid Liebetrman, Lieberman pays him  back by blasting him  and endorsing McCain even though according to lieberman no one should vote Lieberman out over just one issue. Isnt Lieberman doing the same thing now? It's all about the middle east for Lieberman. He is willing to sell out democrats over every other issue like Katrina for this one middle east issue. The guy needs to be thrown out.

by Pravin 2008-06-11 11:29PM | 0 recs
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I have no doubt that a President Obama will mean the end of Holy Joe's relevance. One reason I love the idea of Hillary as Senate Majority Leader is I doubt she would be as kind to Holy Joe as Reid has been. Also he did stab Bill in the back during impeachment, Hillary would own him

by rossinatl 2008-06-11 11:55PM | 0 recs
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I think Clinton would be an absolute bulldog of a Senate Majority Leader, and I absolutely love this line of reasoning.  Watching Lieberman have to squirm between Clinton and Obama would provide for some really amazing schaudenfreude.

by Dreorg 2008-06-12 06:42AM | 0 recs


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