Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

The Clinton campaign just unveiled this ad on a conference call. This time the crisis is the economy and Clinton's target is John McCain.

Yesterday Barack Obama largely targeted McCain in a speech on the economy as if to cast himself as the presumptive nominee, now Clinton appears to be doing the same thing. I could get used to covering a race where both candidates try to out-criticize McCain.

Update [2008-4-2 16:8:59 by Todd Beeton]:Just another quick note, turning her focus on John McCain is really smart for a couple of reasons. Obviously it's best for all involved for her to turn her fire away from Barack Obama, perhaps most importantly for her so she doesn't scare off wavering superdelegates who fear she'll ruin Obama and the party's chances in November if he's the nominee. But also, it actually behooves both Clinton and Obama to focus on criticizing McCain because if this nomination is going to hinge on electability, as it seems it just might since ultimately the nomination will be left up to the subjective judgment of the superdelegates, letting the supers see just how they intend to go head to head against McCain, seeing sort of a preview of coming attractions -- whether through ads or just rhetorically on the stump -- is actually a really important part of this stage of the campaign, which, as sad as it is, is largely about wooing the superdelegates.

Tags: 2008 Presidential election, 3AM ad, Barack Obama, Democratic Primary, Economy, Hillary Clinton, John McCain (all tags)

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Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I could get used to covering a race where both candidates try to out-criticize McCain.

Not to mention front page bloggers!

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 12:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

This one is downright strange.  She's up at 3AM, pulling an all-nighter?  But she just said she didn't do well when she's sleep-deprived.

by politicsmatters 2008-04-02 12:17PM | 0 recs
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Yeah, BUT cut her some slack... As a party, we are in MUCH better shape if both candidates stop the dirty sniping and focus on why they are the best vision for America and ATTACK MCCAIN... Either are better than McCain and while I think Obama is leaps and bounds better then Clinton, I think Clinton is a billion times better than McCain.  This is much better than the Clinton scorched earth policy and much more Presidential.

by yitbos96bb 2008-04-02 12:28PM | 0 recs
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Of course Clinton's better than McCain.

But the jokes on the comedy shows just write themselves. I can only imagine what The Daily Show and Colbert will do with this, not to mention someone who uses it for a viral video.

by politicsmatters 2008-04-02 12:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

How did the jokes work out in Texas .

The national security ad was on the comedy shows but it only helped to further free advertising.

There is a message behind the ad and if it gets out with free advertising from the comedians the better for her.

She has crossed the CIC threshold , no matter the amount of jokes the ad helps to reinforce her message.

This is a direct shot at Mccain but a subliminal one at Obama which will be picked up along with the ad even though he wasn't mentioned.

It manages to merge national security and economic concerns together.

And if Texas is a yardstick , the Obama campaign will be spooked about the return of this ad on national tv because they know what it accomplished in Texas and the message that is being passed along in this ad to PA includes them .

Even though they can do much about it because his name wasn't in there.

by lori 2008-04-02 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

A new ad the weekend before an election is far different from one three weeks ahead.

by politicsmatters 2008-04-02 12:45PM | 0 recs
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You are kind of stretching there a little Lori but no matter.

It is a good ad, and nice to see more attacks on McCain.  My only issue is why would an economic crisis call be coming at 3am?  Unless of course she happens to be in HI when the markets open that day.  Mmmmm Hawaiiiiiii

by kasjogren 2008-04-02 02:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Does the name "Bear Stearns" ring a bell?

by skohayes 2008-04-02 03:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad
A) that happened over the course of 5 days
B) the president had nothing to do with it
c) the market impact still wasn't felt till 9am Monday morning
by kasjogren 2008-04-03 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I wish they would cut Hillary some slack.  But no.  Hillary-bashing is the new "sport" this season.

Good ad, Hill.  Remind people that YOU are the right person to beat McCain in the fall.

Go Hillary '08!

by stefystef 2008-04-02 12:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I'm an Obama supporter and I say it was a good ad.  We know we are better than McSame and I love watching ads telling people why.

by GFORD 2008-04-02 12:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Yes, yet the rampant Obama bashing is perfectly fine with you.  Those in glass houses and all... most of your compatriots on MyDD, TalkLeft, Hillaryis44 (and why they continually lie about her age is beyond me) etc have been engaging in Obama bashing... so please don't try and play the martyr.  Both sides are getting it.

by yitbos96bb 2008-04-02 01:11PM | 0 recs
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"Hillaryis44 (and why they continually lie about her age is beyond me)"

are you serious?  44 stands for 44th president, not age.

I do hope that was a lame joke and that you do know the actual number of presidents we have.

by colebiancardi 2008-04-03 08:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

1 - The phone never rings for a US economic crisis @ 3am... the markets are closed

2 - The last time the phone rang, we found out snipers were on the other end...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHVEDq6RV Xc

3 - The phone is probably ringing to tell Hillary to Drop Out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXmYVRIpu 2w

by Jeff Y 2008-04-02 01:26PM | 0 recs
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Way to add to the conversation. /snark

by americanincanada 2008-04-02 02:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Obama supporter here. This is a great ad and plays to Hillary's strengths. Please grow up and stop the childish antics that will only serve to bring the whole party down. Unless of course that is your stated intention.

by rcmojo 2008-04-02 02:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Yes!!!Jump on this guy! He's been getting a free ride for too long. If both candidates did this instead of attacking each other, the whole party would be stronger come June 3 when this is is over.

by AnyDem2008 2008-04-02 12:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I can't help but think they were going for a two fer with this ad.

Remind Reagan democrats about the national security ad , and go after Mccain on the economy although the target also includes Obama.

That 3 am ad would work in Pennsylvania . i.e. the one on national security .

So this serves a dual purpose.

But I have seen in recent days that it seems they are both going after Mccain now , maybe there was a discussion between the camps and other party leaders.

by lori 2008-04-02 12:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

You are probably right... but I have doubts it will work to be honest with you.  Most people don't give this ad too much credit for Texas... Texas was ALWAYS neck and neck for the primary and Obama performed as expected in the Caucus... Obama winning the PD count in texas was the only sure thing about Texas.  

But for the party as a whole, this AD is much better than the original... although it is EASY to counter and attack... Her saying she was tired and misspoke could be worked into this ad easily and would hurt her.  

by yitbos96bb 2008-04-02 01:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Hillary has by far the best credentials on the economy.

By the way, is anyone following Obama in a mascot in the shape of Florida or Michigan. Nothing like a constant presence to remind Democrats of democracy.

by True Blue Dem 2008-04-02 12:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

What are her credentials on the economy-- seriously, I want her credentials, not the record of the man she married.

by Socraticsilence 2008-04-02 12:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Stop trying to inject reason into assumptions.

P.S. McCain is a "Maverick."

by Lettuce 2008-04-02 12:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

What do you think about Florida and Michigan? Should there votes count? How about a mascot following Obama to remind voters of their rights.

by True Blue Dem 2008-04-02 12:20PM | 0 recs
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How about a mascot following Obama to remind voters of their rights.

Careful what you wish for. It could backfire and remind people that Hillary supported the DNC and party rules before she lost 11 primaries in a row.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 12:30PM | 0 recs
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Yeah! A mascot. I vote for a frog, because the states tried to leapfrog over the calendar, and for their efforts were warned they'd be penalized. They did anyway, and were.

All the candidates signed on.

So, it should follow Hillary and Ickes around to find out why the rules shouldn't matter. Or why Hillary made a pledge to the voters in Iowa and NH that she'd honor their status. Or why Ickes voted for the non-seating before he was against the non-seating for some reason... oh yeah, it's not politically expediant for Hillary anymore.

I think the mascot should actually be someone in a giant Hillary costume, and merely have her say what she used to think, back in January, before anyone had the temerity to poll well against her

by Lettuce 2008-04-02 12:32PM | 0 recs
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Yeah! A mascot. I vote for a frog, because the states tried to leapfrog over the calendar, and for their efforts were warned they'd be penalized. They did anyway, and were.

All the candidates signed on.

So, it should follow Hillary and Ickes around to find out why the rules shouldn't matter. Or why Hillary made a pledge to the voters in Iowa and NH that she'd honor their status. Or why Ickes voted for the non-seating before he was against the non-seating for some reason... oh yeah, it's not politically expediant for Hillary anymore.

I think the mascot should actually be someone in a giant Hillary costume, and merely have her say what she used to think, back in January, before anyone had the temerity to poll well against her

by Lettuce 2008-04-02 12:32PM | 0 recs
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Don't even pretend she is not the most experienced candidate on the economy. Even her papers clearly show she was extremely active as first lady on the economy. And Bill will be a part of her Presidency. She will be awesome.

I am really, really tired of Obama directly attacking Hillary's experience. I wish he would just show one once of the experience she has. That would be an imporvement over the constant attacks coming from Obama.

by True Blue Dem 2008-04-02 12:18PM | 0 recs
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Yes, she was very involved in promoting NAFTA.

by politicsmatters 2008-04-02 12:32PM | 0 recs
"very involved," eh

I can see that politics matters more than some other things . . . .

by Trickster 2008-04-02 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Debunked - move on.

by cmugirl90 2008-04-02 02:11PM | 0 recs
Don't say that Bill will be part of

Hillary's presidency.  He's already had his two terms.  It's not a selling point to say that a vote for Hillary is a vote for a third term of Bill.

Really.

by GFORD 2008-04-02 12:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I doubt you will get a coherent answer to this.
But let me try:
Her campaign is bleeding money and she has no idea how to cut spending, nor raise more money.

Oh yeah she doesn't pay her bills too.

um.
How does anyone think she could our country?

by gil 2008-04-02 01:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Fear not. Florida and Michigan will be seated.

by AnyDem2008 2008-04-02 12:02PM | 0 recs
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They better. I am really scared for our party if they dont have a real say in who is our nominee. And they just get seated after the decision is made.

That is a joke. It reminds me of Obama's first campaign. He eliminated all of his opponents through legal challenges. So when it came time to vote, the voters only had one choice. This is more like the Soviet States of Obama. Than the United States of America.

by True Blue Dem 2008-04-02 12:15PM | 0 recs
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Soviet States of Hillary - an election with only one name on the ballot.

by Becky G 2008-04-02 12:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

By Obama's choice.

by cmugirl90 2008-04-02 02:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Michigan and Florida need to be resolved. We need those folks engaged and working to elect Democrats. But, please acknowledge Hillary's hypocrsisy regarding MI and FL. It's not like elections are an easy thing and can be quickly setup like a charity golf tournament or some other event. It will eventually be worked out, but seeing that Obama is in the proverbial driver's seat, he not going to accept a screw job. Would Hillary if she was in his position?

by rcmojo 2008-04-02 02:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

No, Dodd and Kucinich were still on the ballot in MI.
Obama was pushing his supporters to vote uncommitted:

Voting "uncommitted" is as close as Sen. Barack Obama's Michigan supporters can get to casting a vote for their man in the state's Jan. 15 primary.

As excitement builds for Obama in New Hampshire's primary, his Michigan supporters hope Michigan voters will be savvy enough to vote "uncommitted" in the state's misfit Democratic primary.

"I'm doing a lot of extra work to make sure everyone in Michigan that wants to support Sen. Obama knows they must vote 'uncommitted,' " said U.S. Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich. "Voters can't write in his name because that will be considered a spoiled ballot."

"No matter who you are supporting there is a spot on the ballot you need to check off," said state Rep. Bert Johnson, D-Dist. 5, who endorsed Obama more than 10 months ago. He speculates that an "uncommitted" vote of 15 percent would be a setback for Sen. Hillary Clinton, the only front-runner on the Michigan Democratic primary ballot.

http://ourmichigan.blogspot.com/2008/01/ uncommitted-is-vote-for-obama-in.html

by skohayes 2008-04-02 03:39PM | 0 recs
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FL and MI are kind of like Bush and FISA.  They broke the rules, don't like how they are being treated in response, and now are going to hold their breath and stamp their feet until we capitulate.

And you know the really sad thing is, because we are democrats we will...on both accounts.

by kasjogren 2008-04-02 02:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Did Hillary really mean to do a parody of her original 3AM ad?

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 12:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Remove: little seeping girl who is now a precinct captain for Obama.

Add: African American couple.

Retain: scary blue monster movie lighting.

by mikeinsf 2008-04-02 12:15PM | 0 recs
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Fear not. Florida and Michigan will be seated

Of course they will, because by convention time Obama will be the certain nominee.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 12:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

So long as the candidates criticize McCain instead of each other, a long primary primary season will not be detrimental.

by mefck 2008-04-02 12:04PM | 0 recs
Finally!

The correct 3am ad that should have been run all along.  The one on national security played right into McCain's hands.

I just hope Hillary's campaign isn't getting any 3am calls from vendors. :)

by mikelow1885 2008-04-02 12:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

This ad is so much better than her other 3am ad.

Love it, go Hillary!

by TexasDarlin 2008-04-02 12:06PM | 0 recs
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Nope the national secuirty 3 am ad , is the best I have seen in a long time , definitely this cycle.

by lori 2008-04-02 12:08PM | 0 recs
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99% of the country strongly disagree.  That ad was a mediocre ripoff at best and had NO effect on the race.

by yitbos96bb 2008-04-02 01:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I'm not sure of her strategy of using this same theme for different issues. I think it creates fodder for the late night comedians to turn something serious into a joke, e.g. Gore's "Lockbox".

by zep93 2008-04-02 12:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

McCain's poll numbers are way too good for a guy who is so bad. We need to drive him down by showing the American public what his presidency would really look like. Would like to see Barack targeting him in ads as well.

by AnyDem2008 2008-04-02 12:08PM | 0 recs
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Just wait a little longer. If Obama is the nominee, McCain numbers will be even better!

by RC01 2008-04-02 01:14PM | 0 recs
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Are you a Democrat? Then start acting like one.

by AnyDem2008 2008-04-02 01:17PM | 0 recs
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Uprated because RC01 is simply stating the facts:

"Roughly one in five Democrats in the three states say they will vote for McCain against Obama, but less than 10 percent say they would vote for McCain over Clinton.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x2882.xml?Rele aseID=1164

by KnowVox 2008-04-02 01:34PM | 0 recs
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I don't disagree with the facts or your uprate, but I do disagree with Dems bashing Dems and helping the movement away from BO. Victory for Hill or BO in the fall works both ways. Celebrating the fact that Hill voters are walking away from him doesn't help the cause, and I still think we have a race, but the electability argument is not a winner for her. I still think she can win other ways.

by AnyDem2008 2008-04-02 01:40PM | 0 recs
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Wrong as usual.

by yitbos96bb 2008-04-02 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Apparently, she's going for the "night shift" strategy.  

She must see that Democratic voters have clearly indicated that they want Obama as their President, but apparently she thinks that she thinks that there is a second opening -- for the night shift of the Presidency -- and that she should instead campaign for that one.

by Onward Virginia Democrats 2008-04-02 12:09PM | 0 recs
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I'm sure you mockery of this ad won't be last. Wait till the professional comedians, Stuart, Leno, and Letterman work on it for a day.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 12:10PM | 0 recs
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I mean, is the phone in Hillary's bedroom REALLY going to ring at 3AM with a voice saying, "Ms. President! There's an economic crisis that requires your immediate attention!"

Surely such hyperbole is the last desperate gasp of her campaign. I don't know how many more such gasps we can take.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 12:09PM | 0 recs
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Surely such hyperbole is the last desperate gasp of her campaign.

- Are you against her going after Mccain ?

I was just trying to make sense of your rantings.

by lori 2008-04-02 12:13PM | 0 recs
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I think such a foolish ad makes all Democrats look bad.

A 3AM economic crisis?

It will be so ridiculed in coming days that Hillary will be forced to make fun of it herself.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 12:16PM | 0 recs
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You are barely making sense.

I would sy you are probably pissed off it might remind voters of the national security ad that was aired in Texas.

Seems like sour grapes to me.

by lori 2008-04-02 12:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

say

by lori 2008-04-02 12:28PM | 0 recs
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Seems like sour grapes to me.

No. The ad is dumbness bred of desperation.

And if it does for her what it did in TX she'll wind up losing.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 12:35PM | 0 recs
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How about markets are crashing on the other side of the world that could cause a crash here when our markets open. There are countless things that can happen elsewhere in the world while we sleep that can cause economic crisis in the U.S. please try to keep in mind we are merely a part of this world, it doesn't revolve around us.

by RedstateLib 2008-04-02 12:33PM | 0 recs
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How about markets are crashing on the other side of the world that could cause a crash here when our markets open.

Be afraid. Be VERY afraid!

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 12:38PM | 0 recs
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that would make since, but she lists the problems the economy addresses

by CardBoard 2008-04-02 12:40PM | 0 recs
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Unfortunately most people are stupid enough to realize that the world doesn't revolve around the US. That's why we are in this mess. People voted for a fool with no foreign policy experience and now some want to vote for another fool with no experience on anything. Go figure!

by RC01 2008-04-02 01:18PM | 0 recs
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I'm talking about Obama, of course. Maybe in 20 years that guy will be ready for something.

by RC01 2008-04-02 01:20PM | 0 recs
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You sound very angry.  And please know it is just your opinion that Obama has no foreign policy experience.  Look at the folks who have given him credibility with his foreign policy stances:  Lee Hamilton, Zirbinski (sp?), Joe Biden, former Pres. Clinton foreign policy aides etc.

Lastly, remember that NO ONE had more experience than Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld especially in foreign policy as Dick Cheney use to be Secretary of State and Rumsfeld Secretary of Defense.  And they are the ones who have gotten us in this war bc Bush had no backbone to go against Cheney and Rumsfeld.

By the way IMO Cheney is the one really running the country in terms of making the calls and decisions not Bush...

So, in summary I respectfully not angrily, disagree with you about Obama and him being a fool with no foreign policy experience.

by gabbie 2008-04-02 01:58PM | 0 recs
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   The fact that there are people who use their experience in a bad way is not an argument to elect someone without experience. When you elect an inexperienced person for the highest job in the land, that person doesn't have the personal tools and judgement to make the best decisions, and have to rely on others for that, who may or may not have integrity. That's what happened with W, and sure enough would happen to Obama, because his resume is thinner than a paper towel.
   Experience is and will always be the most important factor in any selection process. If you disagree, next time you apply for a job, just say you don't have experience, but you have a lot of hope and enough good judgement to succeed in your job. If you get hired, let me know, I may give it a try as well.
by RC01 2008-04-04 05:41PM | 0 recs
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wrong...no one is more experienced than dick cheney and don rumsfeld and they are/were the backers and brains behind this war.

your experience argument is myopic and specious at best.

nice try, but hillary has washington experience and will continue a 3rd bush term.

this is america not england where u have dynasties.

no bush clinton bush clinton here.

go vote for mccain if u want experience...see what experience gets you 100 more years in Iraq.

Your argument is weak.

by gabbie 2008-04-07 08:38PM | 0 recs
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You don't think phones were ringing in the White House at 3AM after the run on Bear Sterns? The feds don't move that fast unless someone in the White House is working round the clock.

by souvarine 2008-04-02 12:17PM | 0 recs
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Thank you! That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the ad.
I'm surprised more people didn't think of it.
by skohayes 2008-04-02 03:46PM | 0 recs
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If that's the impression it makes on some, Hillary should have thought harder before associating herself with a middle of the night bank bailout.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 04:14PM | 0 recs
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Yeah, I meant to add that unfortunately Dick Cheney answered it, but the point stands. Some economic crises do, in fact, have to be addressed in the middle of the night. The market waits for no man.

by souvarine 2008-04-03 02:46PM | 0 recs
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Turns out the ad is yesterdays non-news. McCain even has a 3AM ad of his own now. They'll be selling them at Target next.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-03 04:32PM | 0 recs
How many more

How many more times can an Obama supporter identify some innocuous tidbit as "the last gasp" of Clinton's campaign?

Lots more, I'm guessin', because she's gonna be out there for a while yet.

Pal, you're a bit overheated on this one.  It's just an ad.  Most people won't even know about it, and 95% of the rest will be bored to hear about it.

by Trickster 2008-04-02 01:55PM | 0 recs
Re: How many more

How many more times can an Obama supporter identify some innocuous tidbit as "the last gasp" of Clinton's campaign?

Considering how Hillary's campaign is plugged into a life support machine -- probably many more times.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 02:36PM | 0 recs
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yes if HRC was in office instead of Bush they would have called her when they called the Fed
they DO call the POTUS Econ working group on these issues and that group DOES call POTUS at 3am
world markets arent closed cuz GWB is asleep.....
by ginaswo 2008-04-02 01:57PM | 0 recs
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Face it. Hillary went to well once too often on this and will be roundly ridiculed for it.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 02:37PM | 0 recs
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She has been "roundly ridiculed" for her first 3AM ad already, where have you been?
Some people will ridicule anything she does.
by skohayes 2008-04-02 03:52PM | 0 recs
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Which makes this redo ad more ridiculous than the first.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 04:10PM | 0 recs
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An Obama-Clinton ticket could end all of the suspense. When we're done voting on June 3rd, of course.

by AnyDem2008 2008-04-02 12:10PM | 0 recs
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Demographically speaking, it makes perfect sense.  The two candidates appeal to two very different groups of Democrats, and we need both groups to build a solid majority.  But will supporters of the candidate who ends up in the Veep slot support the ticket with the same enthusiasm as the supporters of the candidate at the top of the ticket?  

by KTinOhio 2008-04-02 12:16PM | 0 recs
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Further thought...

Would an Obama/Clinton (or Clinton/Obama) ticket be the best of both worlds or the worst of both worlds, electorally speaking?  How well would this ticket do among voters who like one and dislike the other?

by KTinOhio 2008-04-02 01:47PM | 0 recs
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The problem with this is that it's a Mark Penn way of looking at the election. "Demographically speaking" it makes sense.

But campaign-message-wise it's a terrible idea. Clinton is running on experience, and she's already denigrated Obama's to the point where even picking him for VP seems nonsensical. Obama's running as an outsider unbeholden to special interests and politics as usual. Picking Clinton for VP utterly undermines that.

So while it makes sense in a Mark Penn sorta way, it doesn't very well in reality.

by Texas Gray Wolf 2008-04-02 02:13PM | 0 recs
I love the substance of the ad...

not so crazy still about the "3 am" thing.

It's a heck of a start, though.

by Rorgg 2008-04-02 12:12PM | 0 recs
Re: I love the substance of the ad...

It doesn't really fit with an economic message. I think they used the same ad and modified it to save money. It isn't very effective.

by Becky G 2008-04-02 12:43PM | 0 recs
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Good Ad for Hillary, but she still voted for this #&*$^%@ war.  End of discussion, I can not support anyone who voted for this #$%@#$ war.

As far as FL or MI mascot to follow Obama around that is retarded.  She we have a rule book follow Hillary around and say "We told you not to break the rules".  

by oregonlahar 2008-04-02 12:17PM | 0 recs
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Obama didn't vote for this $*%&(% war because....
HE WASN'T IN CONGRESS AT THE TIME!

If I can forgive Edwards for voting for the war (since he was in the Senate at the time), I can forgive Hillary.  As our NY Senator, it would have not gone well in a city and state still suffering the effects of 9/11.

by stefystef 2008-04-02 12:30PM | 0 recs
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Your implication is that if he was in Congress he would have.  

Um, no.  Not only is it pretty clear he was against it, so were a majority of Congressional Democrats. This "it's easy for him to say because he wasn't there" line doesn't wash.  Plenty of Democrats were courageous enough to say "no". Hillary wasn't.  Period.

by mikeinsf 2008-04-02 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Pretty bold statement since Obama himself said had he been in Congress at the time and actually had access to all the information, he wasn't sure how he would have voted (this while defending John Kerry's vote - the same as HRC's).

Obama also said (in 2004, I think) that his position and George Bush's weren't far apart with regards to Iraq.

by cmugirl90 2008-04-02 02:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

When was the last time an Obama ad ran for free on this site?

by Lettuce 2008-04-02 12:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I'm shocked she went with the 3 am phone call thing again. I mean it's silly, she got derided and made fun of for months over it, and now she's using the same ad again with a new twist?

More than it just not being effective, it's just silly to use the same ad twice.

by need some wood 2008-04-02 12:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

More than it just not being effective, it's just silly to use the same ad twice.

- Lets see Obama lost the primary in Texas and she won the late deciders in that state , I would say it was effective.

by lori 2008-04-02 12:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Effective in Ohio too.

by stefystef 2008-04-02 12:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

This was effective, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNNIH4SAO lE

I guess there's some pay-off in speaking to our better amygdala.

by mikeinsf 2008-04-02 12:54PM | 0 recs
It is a White Flight Strategy

by CardBoard 2008-04-02 12:39PM | 0 recs
Yeah, it is totally silly to attack McCain...

...Just what is Hillary thinking!

by Andre Walker 2008-04-02 12:45PM | 0 recs
Good for her!

I don't see how anyone could have a problem with airing anti-McCain ads.  Let's make it 2 against 1 and destroy him over the next few months.

by thezzyzx 2008-04-02 12:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Good for her!

I don't see how anyone could have a problem with airing anti-McCain ads.

I remember back in 2004 Dean's supporters weren't so blind as to praise his horrible ads. Somebody who is Hillary's friend should tell her this one is just plain dumb.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-04-02 12:42PM | 0 recs
It's not Obama v. Hillary, it's Dems v. Repubs

You people who won't vote for the Dem, what the heck are you doing on this site? They are not that far apart on the issues. Only your kool-aid and ideological zeal make you see otherwise. Just one Obaman's frustrated take at both sides' n'er do wells.

by AnyDem2008 2008-04-02 12:29PM | 0 recs
It is really smart, and helpfull, to attack McCain

although an economic crisis does not really occur at 3am, or at least the ones she is speaking of... I find that a little odd.  But I guess keeping the brinks theme is in line with the "White Flight" strategy of the Clinton campaign, where there highest region of support is amongst White Flight Whites - that is frankly smart.  I wish these people did not have racial fears (and find it to be on in a moral gray-zone to play on them) but it is smart politics if all that matters is winning elections.

by CardBoard 2008-04-02 12:38PM | 0 recs
Re: It is really smart, and helpfull, to attack Mc
do you mean to call people racist or is it just an ingrained reflex?
most people in PA were born in the suburbs for 2 gens now they arent fleeing anything but taxes..
by ginaswo 2008-04-02 02:01PM | 0 recs
Re: It is really smart, and helpfull, to attack Mc

It is a proven fact that a plurality of White persons in the sub's have racial fears... your a bit off with your "born in the suburbs for 2 gens now" in that PA has also experience a population boom since 2 generations ago (a heavily AA population boom) to where what were the suburbs are no longer suburbs... they have been replaced with suburbs further out.  And, if you look at the racial breakdown those 'old' suburbs are heavily diverse and minorities become more prominent as you head toward city centers.  The farthest removes suburbs (the newest ones) are the Whitest.  If you cross-reference this data with racial fears data (that is inter-marriage style questions) you find it most prominent in these mixed regions at a near plurality... I work in social research on religion in America and look at these stats, and read the social research journals, this is a pretty well pronounced trend and researched trend.  I think many of us still have ingrained ration fears.  I'm often fearful when I go to Trenton.  

I'm working on comparing this data to Obama vs. Clinton support exit poll data.

by CardBoard 2008-04-02 02:22PM | 0 recs
by goalie40 2008-04-02 12:48PM | 0 recs
This ad works really well for her

I mean even with a limited media buy she will get huge coverage due to the similarity to the other ad. With this ad she plays to a strength of hers instead of one of John McCain's.

Also focus fire on Johnny Mac make expose him for what he is W's third term.  If the campaign stays on these terms we'll be sad when there is only one person to wallop Johnny Mac from the national stage.

by Student Guy 2008-04-02 12:51PM | 0 recs
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I really appreciate that this ad nails McCain on his weakest issue, but the "3am" thing is really strange.  It kinda detracts from the message by making me think "why in the heck is a housing foreclosure emergency happening at 3am?"

Regardless, really smart strategy on the part of Clinton to go after McCain and economic policy.  He's barely been touched on this issue, and he's admitted himself that he doesn't really understand economics.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-04-02 12:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

The Housing Problem was too busy working multiple jobs to pay the mortgage to call McCain before 3am.

Granted, the concept is interesting and true, yet sorta nonsensical.

by RBH 2008-04-02 01:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

if Bear Sterns had been allowed to fail on Thursday night
the market would have crashed the next morning
the CDOs would have gone below zero
banks have zero non borrowed liquidity right now
and the housing market would have CRASHED
runs on banks
yep
there IS a 3am housing crisis call, it was bear Sterns

see the post on the diaries today with the Fed charts

by ginaswo 2008-04-02 02:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Hm, yes. Although a lot of that is a Fed Reserve decision, right? And it'd be a Midnight phone call. If there's a slight difference.

by RBH 2008-04-02 02:07PM | 0 recs
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Thanks for the reply!  I am no expert on the economy, so your input is helpful.  The ad may go over the heads of many people like myself, but overall I still think the ad is great at questioning McCain's economic platform.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-04-02 03:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I know a couple of people who are up at 3am worried about their bills and mortgage.  Alot of people can relate to this ad, especially in PA.

by stefystef 2008-04-02 04:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

It seems to me that when you recycle an ad, and simply change the voice over it means that you can not afford to shoot a new ad. I have no opinion on the ad but I don't ever remember the same ad running while talking about two different things. Anyone prod my memory?

by AHunch 2008-04-02 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

The style was lacking, but the substance of the ad was great!

Who knew Mark Penn had it in him? . . . or should we give the credit to Mandy G.?

by FOB92 2008-04-02 01:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

That's a good point - turning their fire on McCain is a strong positive for both candidates not only because it bolsters our chances in November, but also because it provides a positive argument for that candidate's electability, which is going to prove critical when the superdelegates make their decision.

by DynamicUno 2008-04-02 01:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Looks like it might be working:

"Clinton leads Obama, McCain in key matchups":
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080402/pl_n m/usa_politics_poll_dc;ylt=An9VrT_gj8e 07O9ek8WtEes0NUE

by gotalife 2008-04-02 01:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad
Where are her tax returns?
I thought she was going to release them a week ago.
by gil 2008-04-02 01:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Both of our candidates are blowing away McCain in fundraising.  A combined two-pronged attack on McCain could seriously hurt his favorability months before the actual election.  Clinton could directly attack McCain's level of experience, Obama could attack McCain for being more of the same and no change from Bush.  McCain wouldn't have the money to respond to such an attack.

Considering Obama and Clinton have been running against each other for 14 months now, most Democrats have made up their minds about the two of them.  It's time to knock McCain down a peg or two.

by Skaje 2008-04-02 02:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Let her sleep! We don't need any more tall tales.

by kitebro 2008-04-02 02:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I can see that the Obama rules are very much in effect, espcially when it come to being negative about candidates other than our own.

by americanincanada 2008-04-02 02:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I applaud the effort, though in my opinion the execution left something to be desired.  I wonder - has the original 3:00 a.m. ad been lampooned so much that this new one won't be effective?  Are we going to get more "3:00 a.m. calls" on other hot button issues?  Can't someone call during normal business hours?

by rfahey22 2008-04-02 02:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Brilliant analysis in the "Update," Todd!

by tomthroop 2008-04-02 02:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I heard this is the second ad of a three part series of ads because it is an effective ad.

Her numbers are rising.

by gotalife 2008-04-02 02:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Any president worth their weight would never get a 3 am call because they would be way ahead of the game.   Obama would never let the economy get so bad that he would ever have to get a call like that.  Obama would never get a 3 am call on defense because he would be ahead of anything that would be going wrong.  So, obviously Hillary would be getting 3 am calls because she would not be ahead of problems that got that bad.

by Spanky 2008-04-02 03:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Obama would never hire cronies or idealogues to work real problems.  Obama will hire smart, knowledgeable people to work real problems with real solutions.  He will never be a George Bush, or a John McCain who is surrounded by lobbyist and Bush cronies.  Obama will work problems from the bottome up to solve issues that are important to real americans.  Obama will not be the status quo, he is going to bring real change to his administration.  

by Spanky 2008-04-02 03:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Right now, the economy is in the crapper.
Right now, Bush ain't getting up for nothing except to dance with the Easter Bunny and  have his 3-martini lunch.

We need a good manager and Hillary is the better manager of the two, even with problems with her campaign.

by stefystef 2008-04-02 03:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

I am sorry, but Hillary does not seem to be able to manage her own campaign finances that well.  If I am wrong I apologize, but from things I have read she still owes a lot of creditors money.  Obama has done a better job of running his campaigns finances.  If you can't run your own campaign's finances that well how can you run a country's finances?  Also, I have not seen any proof that Hillary is any better than Obama on the economy.  If you have lots of proof I would like to see it.

by Spanky 2008-04-02 04:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Props to Hillary for attacking McCain!!!

by chewie5656 2008-04-02 05:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary Clinton's New 3AM Ad

Finally, Hilary is attacking the Republicans. It took her long enough. She is also doing the most sensible thing to get to the White House, running for VP.

by erlin 2008-04-02 08:59PM | 0 recs
I heard she was having money problems

so it's kind of funny to see her recycling commercials.

by SleepingWillow 2008-04-03 01:43AM | 0 recs

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