Midweek Diary Rescue

Bumped - Todd

Another batch of quality diary content for the discerning blog reader:

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13 Comments

Great diary rescue!

I see a few in there that I tried to push.

by kevin22262 2008-03-19 07:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Midweek Diary Rescue

Thanks for the rescue, JasonThe!

by Tom Udall 2008-03-19 07:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Midweek Diary Rescue

Thanks for the diary, Tom.

If you have time for a follow up, I think readers here would be interested in hearing what kind of response you get on this.

by Jason Williams 2008-03-19 08:40AM | 0 recs
What Responsible Plan?

I read the "Responsible Plan" and there is no substance to it.  It is exactly the kind of soft headed nonsense that causes every politician running for office to distance themselves from the word "liberal." Objectives of the plan include "increasing the representation of women and minorities in broadcast media ownership."  

The plan can be summarized thusly:

1. Pull the troops out.

  1. Provide some vaguely defined humanitarian, diplomatic, and economic support.
  2. Hope like hell the country doesn't rapidly deteriorate.

by dMarx 2008-03-19 09:00AM | 0 recs
Better than we have now
Current plan:
  1. Leave the troops there until we are bankrupted
  2. Hope like hell the country doesn't rapidly deteriorate while the current batch are in office.
by Timetheos 2008-03-19 09:19AM | 0 recs
Here is why you are wrong.

Not saying the current plan is roses but at least we know what level of order can be maintained while the political and military abilities of Iraq increase.  

It is possible that pulling out would not plunge Iraq into a genocidal humanitarian crisis and a power vacuum to be exploited by Al Qaeda, Iran, and Syria - but it doesn't seem likely and just hoping it won't happen is not "responsible."

by dMarx 2008-03-19 10:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Here is why you are wrong.

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 while the political and military abilities of Iraq increase
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Which according to most accounts is not happening.

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Al Qaeda, Iran, and Syria
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  1.  Iran is already welcomed to Iraq more than we are.
  2.  Quit tossing the AQ term around.  "AQ in Iraq" has little if nothing to do with "AQ"; they are different groups.

I believe that, unless we are willing to look at a tri-state solution, right now all we are doing is expensivly postponing the inevitable.

Think about it: if Europe had tried to invade the US to stop our civil war, what would have happend?  Chaos.

by Timetheos 2008-03-19 11:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Here is why you are wrong.

I think a tri state solution is a viable plan.  I didn't see anything about that in the so-called "responsible plan."

AQ was always different groups. AQ was created as a confederation of like minded organizations - anyway radical islam is a threat and terrorism is their weapon.

by dMarx 2008-03-19 02:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Here is why you are wrong.

Unfortunately, many countries are against a tri-state plan, including Turkey and Iran, making it an unlikely solution.

by Timetheos 2008-03-19 03:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Here is why you are wrong.

You are right about the tri state scenerio.  Maybe that is why it is not included in the responsible plan.

I am reading a NYT report on Iraq right now, here is a quote.

"There are those who say the Iraqi Army can control Iraq without the Americans," said Col. Ali Omar Ali, an Iraqi battalion commander in east Mosul. "But they are liars. Without the Americans it would be impossible for us to control Iraq."

I hope Col. Ali is wrong but if he is correct and we pull out, it will be a sad thing indeed. I don't even want to think about the political consequences of Iraqi genocide on the nightly news or if we have to go back in to break up terrorist bases.

by dMarx 2008-03-19 03:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Here is why you are wrong.

Perhaps you don't realize we are dealing with a Lebanon type of scenario now.

Unless we can somehow develop the tri-state solution, the only resolution is one that Iraqi's work out for themselves.

Our increased troops are not stopping the violence, but the bribing of Sunnis and Sadr keeping his troops in line.  Someone outbids us on the sunnis or Sadr decides to unleash his troops and violence will spike again.

Furthermore, we can't afford this surge.  How many billions?  I take it you like the idea of a Depression.

by Timetheos 2008-03-19 05:25PM | 0 recs
Off topic
How do you post a video on MyDD? I've tried every possible search word on google, and searched the site. Nothing!!! Why isn't this posted somewhere, like the FAQs?
by Jacob Freeze 2008-03-19 11:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Midweek Diary Rescue

Thanks for the rescue!

by Intrepid Liberal Journal 2008-03-19 12:44PM | 0 recs

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