Missouri Results Thread

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Still hasn't been called.

Missouri (3323 of 3371 precinctss/98.6% reporting)

Barack Obama 394,621 (48.9 percent)
Hillary Clinton 389,170 (48.3 percent)

5,451 votes margin for Obama

Wow, a squeaker. It's all about St. Louis.

Update [2008-2-6 0:5:18 by Jonathan Singer]: This race is still TOO CLOSE TO CALL no matter what the AP says, at least in my book...

Update [2008-2-6 0:11:56 by Jonathan Singer]: The AP might have a bit of egg on its face because Obama has just taken a lead in Missouri. Stay here for the results.

Update [2008-2-6 0:17:5 by Jonathan Singer]: Obama's lead in Missouri is growing. For what it's worth, NBC News calls Missouri for McCain...

Update [2008-2-6 0:37:43 by Jerome Armstrong]: Silly to go on, as the fraction of whomever wins the sates doesn't matter unless you are the MSM that thinks a win matters more than the delegates. Most likely, MO is a 36-36 delegate split between the candidates.

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70 Comments

Re: Missouri Results Thread

Is this a winner take all state?

by proudtobeliberal 2008-02-05 06:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

No.

by rfahey22 2008-02-05 06:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

No such thing for Democrats.  The party doesn't allow it.  

I think it is winner take all for the GOP.

by randym77 2008-02-05 06:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

msnbc and he politico are calling it for clinton

by boxer4hrc 2008-02-05 06:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

AP did, too, but I wonder how they can when it's so close.

by randym77 2008-02-05 06:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

well then I don't understand what the fuss is about MO...

by proudtobeliberal 2008-02-05 06:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

It's considered to be a bellweather state in the general election.  I believe the winner of MO was elected president in all but one case (maybe Truman?).  I don't think the same reasoning applies to the primaries, but it's still interesting to see how the candidates perform in an important swing state.

by muffie 2008-02-05 07:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Truman was from Missouri, so I don't think that's the exception, since he won his only Presidential election.  

by HSTruman 2008-02-05 07:35PM | 0 recs
Stevenson in '56

I think.

by Shawn 2008-02-05 07:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Stevenson in '56

That would make sense.  I think Stevenson probably won there, his home state of Illinois, and most - but not all - of the then "solid" deep south.  Thanks.

by HSTruman 2008-02-05 07:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Obama is going to win Mizzou.

by Djneedle83 2008-02-05 06:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

I think Obama will win it too, but barely. we'll see.

by mecarr 2008-02-05 06:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

whoever wins it doesn't really gain much more than whoever doesnt win it

by werd2406 2008-02-05 06:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Basically, it's a tie.

by rfahey22 2008-02-05 06:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

pretty much the only counties to still be counted are st. louis city and st. louis county, where obama is beating Clinton by 30-40%.

by mecarr 2008-02-05 06:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Also missing is 75% of Boone County -- Columbia/UMo... where Obama is up 61-36

I agree, I think this is going to be a squeaker of less than 1% in either direction -- until all of the rest of the precincts from St Louis City and County report, it is impossible to call -- I think/hope Obama will squeeze it out -- just barely... let;s see

by lifelongdem 2008-02-05 06:58PM | 0 recs
i love the msm

hillary wins, so what? she held on.

barack wins, it shows he's sweeping the nation.

he won all of these states!!! like north dakota, utah, minnesota.

I wouldn't lose a cent if i paid everyone a $1 for the times they mentionaed these states in the past 2 weeks.

IT was all about mass., nj., california, arizona,

the msm has topped the bad treatment of gore/kerry.

by yellowdem1129 2008-02-05 06:55PM | 0 recs
In other words

Us flyover folks are meaningless, right?

by zonk 2008-02-05 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: i love the msm

I guess you should never be hired as a campaign strategist.

by rfahey22 2008-02-05 07:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Back up to 2% for Clinton.

by werd2406 2008-02-05 06:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

CNN just had Obama up by 4,000 votes or so in MO.

by rcipw 2008-02-05 07:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

3,000 vote difference right now.... wow.

by Vox Populi 2008-02-05 07:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

MSNBC just said Obama up 3207 votes

by along 2008-02-05 07:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Nope.  Its now about Boone County and I think Obama wins.

by ChrisR 2008-02-05 07:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Obama up in Missouri. Wow. Whoever called that is going to look dumb.

by Progressive America 2008-02-05 07:06PM | 0 recs
Missouri Just Flipped

Obama up on top now more than 3,000 votes with 97% reporting. Why did AP call this early? Bozos.

by BBCWatcher 2008-02-05 07:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Mizzou goes to Obama.

by Djneedle83 2008-02-05 07:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

I saw this 3 hours ago. Obama is going to win Missouri.

by ND1979 2008-02-05 07:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

I think Clinton will win it. Boone is only reporting 27%, and Clinton is up by quite a bit.

by mecarr 2008-02-05 07:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Boone County is the University of Missouri, I wouldn't count on Clinton winning too many votes there.

by Steve M 2008-02-05 07:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

MSNBC still says it's too close to call.

But the delegates still go about 50/50.

by Kal 2008-02-05 07:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

No idea how they couldn't see this.

He only won in 3 areas in the ENTIRE state but his margins at 50% counted in these areas were HUGE (like 12-22K leads) Simple maths said he was going to close what was a 42k vote lead my HRC.

by ND1979 2008-02-05 07:09PM | 0 recs
what happened to appealing to everyone?

IF HILLARY had to try to win a state  by losing all of the state except the big cities, and then claim broad appeal? lol

by yellowdem1129 2008-02-05 07:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Boone county is reporting at 27%...

Obama 5,328 61%
Clinton 3,096 36%

The only county left to report. Looks like this baby is going to the convention.

by Djneedle83 2008-02-05 07:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Mizzou is a PR move 100%.

by Djneedle83 2008-02-05 07:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Oops, Boone is for OBama. Obama wins Mizzou

by mecarr 2008-02-05 07:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

If everything goes exactly like the current margins are, Clinton wins by less than 1,000 votes.

How could the AP call this so early?

by Hoyapaul 2008-02-05 07:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Not really. The big story will be delagate count and then California, IMO.

HRC wins Califonia per MSNBC.

by ND1979 2008-02-05 07:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

They didn't really call California already, did they?

by randym77 2008-02-05 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

To bad they've called California already.  The Alameda County polls were ordered to stay open till 10 pm because of polling place problems.  Nothing like calling the election before all the polling places are closed, huh?

by Phonatic 2008-02-05 07:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Boone COunty is going 62-36% Obama and that's the largest county to come back in.  And Obama's up by 4,000.

So Obama wins AL, AK, CO, CT, GA, IL, DE, ID, KS, MN, ND, UT

Hillary wins CA (probably), MA, NJ, NY, OK, TN

I don't know about NM.

Obama wins more states, might win more delegates (his campaign just did a better job on this).

The delegate thing is huge.  His campaign simply beat Hillary's, it seems to me:  rack up big victories in caucus states and GA, IL and keep NY close.

Too early, but it looks like the narrative is Obama's.  Particularly by next week:

Washington State shows Obama by double digits (by SUSA), Louisiana looks Obama.  Potomac Primary looks good for Obama, with Hillary having a possible pickup in Virginia.  Wisconsin -- anyone know anything?

by ChrisR 2008-02-05 07:12PM | 0 recs
Wisconsin

will go Obama.

he'll get the same neighbor advantage HRC got out east.

College towns.... Obama takes Madison + Milwaukee big time, pulls an IA in rural WI.

I'll put money on Obama by 5-10 pts in WI right now.

VA is going to be an interesting race.

Without going over the math... other than KS and ND - it seems Obama does better in states where he DOESN'T get endorsed :-)

Maybe Russ should stay on the sidelines.

by zonk 2008-02-05 07:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Wisconsin

Okay, where does HRC go next?

I'm serious.  I'm not being snarky.

by ChrisR 2008-02-05 07:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Wisconsin

TX, PA, OH

by ottovbvs 2008-02-05 07:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Wisconsin

What, she blows off the next two weeks?

It didn't work for Rudy.

by ChrisR 2008-02-05 07:38PM | 0 recs
But

that's all she can do.

With her coffers bare -- Obama's gonna bleed her dry.

He would be an idiot to accept 4 more debates.  She needs the free media, he doesn't.

Axelrod should DEFINITELY come out tomorrow and say "we've already had 94,532 debates -- how many more do we really need?"

He probably needs to do 1 or 2 more H2Hs.

Plus -- let's not all forget -- Obama does VERY well when he can do his 10-15-20K events.

Now -- he can do that everywhere.

by zonk 2008-02-05 07:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

I would expect Obama to win Wisconsin.

by rfahey22 2008-02-05 07:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

The Obama/Clinton race in MO is working a bit like the McCaskill/Talent race. Talent led the whole night, then the urban areas reported.

by Mullibok 2008-02-05 07:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

is this 12 for Obama?

by sepulvedaj3 2008-02-05 07:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Yes, with Alaska a question mark.

by Mullibok 2008-02-05 07:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

He passed her- he's going to win it.

by reasonwarrior 2008-02-05 07:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

I do wonder if Clinton is regretting not spending more time in the smaller states.

by werd2406 2008-02-05 07:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Obama wins MO. I can't believe this.

by RJEvans 2008-02-05 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Eh. It would've been the same results pretty much had Clinton won, just the names reversed. Hopefully Clinton's lead in CA sticks and that'll be on the news tomorrow.

by werd2406 2008-02-05 07:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Do they not vote in Maine, Texas, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, etc...

by ND1979 2008-02-05 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Yes, soon.  And it will matter.

by ChrisR 2008-02-05 07:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Well, every vote always counts, of course, but let be real, in primaries, there are ties, and this state is a tie.

by NJIndependent 2008-02-05 07:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

There just weren't many people in the states I won.

by ottovbvs 2008-02-05 07:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

How could everyone call it for Hillary when it was so close?  I just don't get it.  

by randym77 2008-02-05 07:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

With it so close, the delegate difference will be negligible.  Call this state a draw.

by ocli 2008-02-05 07:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

So NPR and The Politico are sticking to their calls on Missouri, or since it is 50-50, are they just saying "screw it"?

by ND1979 2008-02-05 07:25PM | 0 recs
MO

Predictor of Presidents, bellwether of the nation!

by zonk 2008-02-05 07:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

when are the networks gonna call it for Obama?

by mecarr 2008-02-05 07:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

No one has called MO yet.

by americanincanada 2008-02-05 07:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Almost certain Obama will get Alaska.  If Mizzou holds, that means either 13-9 or 14-8 lead for Obama in states.  As long as he isn't behind in the pledged delegate count, I give the SLIGHT momentum nod to Obama.  But this is going to be knock-down, drag-out to the bitter end.

by NC State Dem 2008-02-05 07:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

That's if you think AK is as important as CA or NY..

by ottovbvs 2008-02-05 07:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

But IL, GA, and Obama's 12 other states certainly cancel out Clinton's leads in CA, NY, and her handful of other states.

If Obama wins the delegate count tonight and the state count, no sane person can say this is anything but a victory for him.

by Kal 2008-02-05 07:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Fox News just called Missouri for Obama.

by Loreg 2008-02-05 07:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

Actually MO will not be a tie, because the cities have heavier delegate counts and Obama won them.

by CardBoard 2008-02-05 07:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Missouri Results Thread

MSNBC calls Missouri for Obama.

Throw one more state on the pile.

But Jerome's right--50/50 split in delegates.

by Kal 2008-02-05 07:40PM | 0 recs

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