Barack Obama Speaking To Supporters

Barack's on stage. He bumped McCain.

Update [2008-2-5 23:57:23 by Todd Beeton]:Interesting, this is the first election night speech I recall that Barack has used to go after Hillary. He's making an electability argument. "If I am the nominee, the Republican won't be able to say..." fill in the blank. This is interesting, never heard this before either: "That is why our party must be the party of tomorrow and that is the party I intend to lead as the president of the United States of America." He didn't say the name of the party but it's a step in the right direction, Barack!

Update [2008-2-6 0:3:55 by Todd Beeton]:"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or if we wait for some other time. We are the ones we've been looking for." Wow.

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Re: Barack Obama Speaking To Supporters

Who exactly is "our time..?"

by werd2406 2008-02-05 06:46PM | 0 recs
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Media bias perhaps, or perhaps just an acknowledgement that Obama is waaaay better on the stump than McCain

by alydar 2008-02-05 06:46PM | 0 recs
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haha..  fox news kept mccain going.

by recusancy 2008-02-05 06:51PM | 0 recs
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Why does he always sound like a southern black preacher when he is on TV?

This is not a way to appeal to a wide array of voters in the general election. He is should not pretend to be Mike Huckabee.

by need some wood 2008-02-05 06:46PM | 0 recs
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Dude, keep race out of this.  You would never refer to a candidate as a 'white' anything.

by alydar 2008-02-05 06:47PM | 0 recs
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Sorry everybody can't speak in the same white nasaly monotone that you've grown accustomed to.

by recusancy 2008-02-05 06:49PM | 0 recs
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Robotic shouting....ohhh so appealing. Follow the Hillbot.

by craigk724 2008-02-05 06:51PM | 0 recs
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who's saying I'm a Hillbot?

I am undecided. His preachy style is off putting and you know it. He should do less preaching and more DNC '04. Her robotic style is bad too.

by need some wood 2008-02-05 06:56PM | 0 recs
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Err...barack....those "teachers and cooks" in NV voted against you...

by werd2406 2008-02-05 06:48PM | 0 recs
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yeah that was weird. name two states he lost. is he flaunting that facts dont matter in his spin zone?

by hctb 2008-02-05 06:50PM | 0 recs
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But he still mentions them.  Imagine that.  Not holding animosity.

by recusancy 2008-02-05 06:50PM | 0 recs
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he cited a "chorus" that demanded Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee. Just saying.

by hctb 2008-02-05 06:51PM | 0 recs
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I supported Hillary today, but i think ultimately you're looking at our nominee and quite possibly the next President of the United States.

by falcon4e 2008-02-05 06:50PM | 0 recs
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Well, there are all those damn voters in all these states which, you know, disagree.

Obama has not yet won a major state other than Illinois.

I understand he needs to claim a mandate doing it but, let's be honest, he does not have one.

by kristoph 2008-02-05 06:56PM | 0 recs
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MN and Georgia aren't "major" states?  Neither is connecticut?  Come on, this thing is going to be tied coming out of tonight.  Just admit it.

by HSTruman 2008-02-05 07:05PM | 0 recs
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You're looking at the next President of the United States.

by Vox Populi 2008-02-05 06:51PM | 0 recs
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And I endorsed Clinton last week.

by Vox Populi 2008-02-05 06:58PM | 0 recs
I could live with either of them

I am very glad the nomination will not be wrapped up tonight. A longer campaign with more scrutiny and media attention devoted to our candidates is a good thing.

by desmoinesdem 2008-02-05 07:00PM | 0 recs
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I doubt it...i think he'll be torn apart in the general (unfortunately) which is one reason im not supporting him. His talk is nice, but where does it lead? so far, no where.

by werd2406 2008-02-05 06:53PM | 0 recs
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If Hillary really wanted to lay into him, she would. Right now for the good of the party, she's holding back. And the media is all gaga for him right now, but when that ends, the shit will hit the fan.

by werd2406 2008-02-05 06:55PM | 0 recs
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It's over. Change is more important than experience this cycle. The people feel Obama can cause that change. Hes gonna be the nominee. The snowball just got wayyy bigger and Hillary can't stop it.

by falcon4e 2008-02-05 06:57PM | 0 recs
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oh lord....alright falcon...w.e u say..

by werd2406 2008-02-05 06:57PM | 0 recs
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Oh come on.  So Hillary's been fighting with one hand tied behind her back this whole time?  She's been taking cues from the Fred Thompson playbook?  That excuse is laughable.

by rfahey22 2008-02-05 07:03PM | 0 recs
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what are his accomplishments?  i can't think of any, nor can most of his supporters.  he has been in the senate for a few years now and i didn't see any leadership, change, him bringing unity.  why will he now?

by Scope441 2008-02-05 06:56PM | 0 recs
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this isn't a race run clearly on the issues. On the issues, you'd think Hillary would win.

Hillary is viewed as establishment. Barack is a viable black Candidate who represents a change. Kids dream about making a difference in politics. About rising up from the old politics as usual. Barack is that candidate.

This isn't about the issues. Barack will talk his way to November and wouldn't shock me if he talked himself into the White House.

by falcon4e 2008-02-05 06:58PM | 0 recs
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i get that its about change, but what has he done that has created change in the past?  i can't find anything other than the fact he delivers a great speach.  he has had plenty of time in the senate to really make a name for himself and going over his record, i don't see anything impressive.  nothing that stands out.  hillary has sponsored more bills is on more committees compared to him.  she will bring the change we seek, the hope of those who have so little.  yes she can! and she will on day one!

by Scope441 2008-02-05 07:03PM | 0 recs
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You seem to be channeling Tagg Romney with your enthusiasm...

by alydar 2008-02-05 07:05PM | 0 recs
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To be fair, it is very hard to name any Senator that has a sweeping piece of legislation nex to his or her name, especially with a hostile executive branch.  What dramatic legislation does Clinton have on her resume?

by alydar 2008-02-05 06:59PM | 0 recs
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We almost lost the right to burn the flag a few years ago.  All two people per year who engage in that form of protest.

by rfahey22 2008-02-05 07:05PM | 0 recs
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Snap!

by HSTruman 2008-02-05 07:06PM | 0 recs
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You want accomplishments?  Substance?
Fine.  See Hilzoy's deep in the weeds wonkerific listing here: http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_ wings/2008/02/obama-actually.html

I came to Obama by an unusual route: as I explained here, I follow some issues pretty closely, and over and over again, Barack Obama kept popping up, doing really good substantive things. There he was, working for nuclear non-proliferation and securing loose stockpiles of conventional weapons, like shoulder-fired missiles. There he was again, passing what the Washington Post called "the strongest ethics legislation to emerge from Congress yet" -- though not as strong as Obama would have liked. Look -- he's over there, passing a bill that created a searchable database of recipients of federal contracts and grants, proposing legislation on avian flu back when most people hadn't even heard of it, working to make sure that soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan were screened for traumatic brain injury and to prevent homelessness among veterans, successfully fighting a proposal by the VA to reexamine all PTSD cases in which full benefits had been awarded, working to ban no-bid contracts in Katrina reconstruction, and introducing legislation to criminalize deceptive political tactics and voter intimidation. And there he was again, introducing a tech plan of which Lawrence Lessig wrote:

"Obama has committed himself to a technology policy for government that could radically change how government works. The small part of that is simple efficiency -- the appointment with broad power of a CTO for the government, making the insanely backwards technology systems of government actually work.
But the big part of this is a commitment to making data about the government (as well as government data) publicly available in standard machine readable formats. The promise isn't just the naive promise that government websites will work better and reveal more. It is the really powerful promise to feed the data necessary for the Sunlights and the Maplights of the world to make government work better. Atomize (or RSS-ify) government data (votes, contributions, Members of Congress's calendars) and you enable the rest of us to make clear the economy of influence that is Washington.

After the debacle that is the last 7 years, the duty is upon the Democrats to be something different. I've been wildly critical of their sameness (remember "Dems to the Net: Go to hell" which earned me lots of friends in the Democratic party). I would give my left arm to be able to celebrate their difference. This man, Mr. Obama, would be that difference. He has as much support as I can give."

Imagine my surprise, then, when I heard people saying that Obama wasn't "substantive". It was exactly like my experience in 2004 when, after hearing Wes Clark for the first time, I went and looked up his positions on a whole host of issues of concern to me, and only then started reading media accounts of him in which I "learned" that no one knew what his positions were.

As some of my students would say: I was like, wtf?

And this doesn't even address (a) his successes in illinois (most notably with respect to taped confessions or (b) his ability to attract millions of new energized voters to the Dems.

by SKI 2008-02-05 07:06PM | 0 recs
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The same thought I had one night in August of 2004:

"This man is going to be President some day."

Now I know that day is January 20th, 2009.

by Kal 2008-02-05 06:54PM | 0 recs
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I agree about someday, not so sure about 2009.

by ocli 2008-02-05 07:01PM | 0 recs
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werd, we dont know.

But I think Hillary is toast. I think the wave is too strong. He's gonna continue to make the case. Are we gonna look towards the past.. or the future. His words will be enough to get him to November.

by falcon4e 2008-02-05 06:54PM | 0 recs
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wait until the debates.  hillary usually mops the floor with him.  harder to just preach in a debate.  the more debates hillary runs against him, the more people will see the clear difference between the two.  her knowledge and experience compared to his vision of hope with no substance.

by Scope441 2008-02-05 06:58PM | 0 recs
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What wave? It's already receding. Late deciders broke for Clinton and she is moving up again in national polls.

by souvarine 2008-02-05 07:05PM | 0 recs
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He just doesn't stop lying about Hillary's foreign policy.  This is why most of us understand that the "new kind of politics" is just a buzzword, he spins and distorts exactly like everyone else.

by Steve M 2008-02-05 06:57PM | 0 recs
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Steve, the spin words are working.

by falcon4e 2008-02-05 06:59PM | 0 recs
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Yes, that is my major irritant also.  She refuted it this weekend and I hope she keeps at it. He just outright lies.

by ocli 2008-02-05 07:02PM | 0 recs
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What did he say?

by OrangeFur 2008-02-05 07:12PM | 0 recs
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Hillary supports the Bush-Cheney foreign policy of not talking to leaders we don't like.  Total bullshit.

by Steve M 2008-02-05 07:15PM | 0 recs
NM exit poll

All eyes on California of course, but New Mexico exit poll has Clinton and Obama splitting the female vote 47-47 and Obama +14 with males

by alydar 2008-02-05 06:58PM | 0 recs
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Barack's on stage. He bumped McCain.

hehe, nice move; I really think Obama would make a great VP attack dog.

by Jerome Armstrong 2008-02-05 06:58PM | 0 recs
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Jerome, Obama isn't going to be VP. He's going to be the nominee.

by falcon4e 2008-02-05 06:59PM | 0 recs
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Damn, you're really on it tonight arent you falcon? The obama camp got you on the payroll and pumped on Red Bulls? ;)

by werd2406 2008-02-05 07:00PM | 0 recs
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It seems like he's been talking for the last hour.

by reasonwarrior 2008-02-05 07:01PM | 0 recs
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He kind of reminds me of Bill Clinton in that respect.  Good speaker, but has a tendency to go on too long.

by randym77 2008-02-05 07:11PM | 0 recs
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I defy anyone on this site to tell me anything of substance that Obama just said.  Empty rhetoric, empty platitudes.  Yet everyone swoons.

by KensUSA 2008-02-05 07:01PM | 0 recs
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Uh.. Nation divided... United States ... Our time has come ... Big Mac ... double cheese...

galgameth is right, it is the McDonalds menu.

by souvarine 2008-02-05 07:09PM | 0 recs
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See, the problem is that he just isn't more than that.
by killjoy 2008-02-05 07:20PM | 0 recs
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werd, I'm a Clinton supporter. I just don't think she's gonna pull this one out. The delegate count is too close and I think Obama is gonna get good press from this. I think he's going to continue with a win in MD and DC and momentum will go his way. The voices for change will grow louder and the Democrats will nominate him.

Mind you, I'm very skeptical on this change issue. I don't buy it. I dont think Barack can heal the divisions. But Barack has inspired enough people into believing that he's the guy. He'll win.

by falcon4e 2008-02-05 07:02PM | 0 recs
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DC has no primary.

by ocli 2008-02-05 07:03PM | 0 recs
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Yes, they do.  It's part of the "beltway" primary, along with virginia and Maryland.

by HSTruman 2008-02-05 07:08PM | 0 recs
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He needs to wrap this up.  It is not good enough to be this long.

by ocli 2008-02-05 07:02PM | 0 recs
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This speech is going now for wayyy too long, it is putting me to sleep. Definitely not even close to his great Iowa speech.

by need some wood 2008-02-05 07:03PM | 0 recs
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The 2-hr. speech?  WAY too long.  

by georgep 2008-02-05 07:04PM | 0 recs
I like olberman

but he's over the top wrong about obama

to talk about winning states like DELAWARE??? come on , no one even knew they voted today.  More people voted in the first 10 minutes in california than all day in delaware.

obama is getting "cheap states" which is great for him, but so far he's lost tonight.

by yellowdem1129 2008-02-05 07:04PM | 0 recs
Re: I like olberman

Yet that just indicates a glaring hole in HC's strategy.  Points are points, and tonight Obama got a lot of free points because HC decided to concentrate on the big states.  Insult the states all you want but frankly it was idiotic to ignore them.  The patented "Giuliani strategy" does not work.

by rfahey22 2008-02-05 07:12PM | 0 recs
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He sure likes that line about 'began with a whisper'. He says it like 5 times in every speech.

by ocli 2008-02-05 07:05PM | 0 recs
Obama AHEAD in Missouri!

by alydar 2008-02-05 07:06PM | 0 recs
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mattcho, come on.. thats spin. Seriously. As a Clinton supporter, I'm disappointed.

by falcon4e 2008-02-05 07:09PM | 0 recs
Obama attacks

He has to attack in his speech, he can't win unless he overtakes her.

by souvarine 2008-02-05 07:11PM | 0 recs
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I see Clinton going on more of an offensive after today.

by werd2406 2008-02-05 07:12PM | 0 recs
Folks

Why are you looking for policy specifics a stump speech?

Did FDR lay out the TVA, the New Deal -- or did he tell us we have nothing to fear but fear itself?

Did JFK tell us how we were going to build a rocket to the moon, or did he tell us to ask not what our country could do for us, but what we could do for our country?

Did Lincoln tell us how he would save the union, or did he simply say that a house divided amongst itself cannot stand?

Sooner or later, folks --- you have to realize that we DO get those folks, those leaders -- every now and again.

You need to start thinking about the possibility that we're lucky enough to have one in front of us.

by zonk 2008-02-05 07:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Folks

So true.  If you want policy specifics, buy the candidate's book.  Go to the candidate's website.  You know, be proactive instead of thinking that the candidate should spoonfeed it to you at every opportunity.  There's only so much you can say during one speech.

by rfahey22 2008-02-05 07:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Folks

I have examined his website.  It reads like a power point presentation. Some big topics about how the government is going to solve all of my problems with a few paragraphs under each heading.  His charisma is clearly powerful.  But the underlying message is much the same as any other Democratic candidate.  He just presents it better.  There is nothing new here unless you are looking for an inspirational speaker that will institute the same old liberal policies of bigger government.  I know, I know... get lost troll right.

by KensUSA 2008-02-05 07:33PM | 0 recs
No - not get lost

BUt find me details on what some of our great Presidents -- the FDRs, the Lincolns, the JFKs (JFK being a definite level lower).

You won't.

Look... We also should all remember what we hated about Bush -- the imperial president?  The President that forgot he had a legislative branch, especially after the 9/11 daze wore off?

No one's plan is going to be enacted as they lay out.

I defy you find me one Pre-inauguration -- one Pre-GENERAL ELECTION "plan" that got enacted by any President as is.

Ironically -- this race will be won on leadership.  I think Clinton and company just erroneously defined what leadership is.

by zonk 2008-02-05 07:38PM | 0 recs
Re: No - not get lost

Well I just don't see it the same way zonk.  I don't see leadership as an inspirational speech telling me that everyone will magically come together to support his presidency.  As I stated, he is obviously a likable candidate but my life does not revolve around who wins or loses elections.  You are correct that a Pre-General election plan is rarely implemented.  So if my leaders are going to speak in platitudes, then I want them speaking about the greatness of the country and the individual and not the greatness of a bunch of government programs.

by KensUSA 2008-02-05 07:59PM | 0 recs
He's not saying

they will.... He's asking you to.

He's not talking about the greatness of government programs -- he is speaking about the greatness of this country.

I know it sounds like overreach.... but we really need to remember -- those Lincolns, those FDRs, those JFKs do happen.  We do occasionally get those inspirational leaders.  

I'm neither demanding nor insisting everyone hop on the train and drink the kool-aid.... Hell - he's MY senator.  I supported him in the 2003 primary.

Still - it took me until late December to get on board.

I understand that folks are skeptical.   He's got time to make more believers.

by zonk 2008-02-05 08:20PM | 0 recs
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I disagree.  The candidates are now in a virtual tie, and funding and demographics favor Obama.  This has to be seen as a victory for him, when you crunch the numbers.

by rfahey22 2008-02-05 07:13PM | 0 recs
It the Electoral College, Stupid!

I would suggest that you guys spend a little time looking at the Electoral College map.

Obama keeps racking up his wins in states that the Democrats have no prayer of winning. Meanwhile, Clinton just keeps racking up big wins in big states (Michigan, Florida, NY, Massachusetts, California, NJ) and purple states that are potential pickups in the general (Tennessee, Nevada, New Hampshire, Arkansas, Arizona).

by hwc 2008-02-05 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: It the Electoral College, Stupid!

Uh, I'm pretty sure Obama will win MI, FL, NY, MA, CA, and NJ.  As for the purple states, do you have a breakdown of both against McCain or are you just trying to make an argument with no empirical support?

by rfahey22 2008-02-05 07:18PM | 0 recs
Ahhh...

so your argument is that Obama can't win CA, NY, MA, and NJ in the general election?

Good luck with that "electability" spin!

by zonk 2008-02-05 07:40PM | 0 recs

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