Harry Reid To Meet With Joe Lieberman Today

HuffPo's Sam Stein is reporting that Harry Reid is set to meet with Joe Lieberman today, perhaps to strip him of his chairmanships.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will meet with Joe Lieberman on Thursday to discuss how the disaffected, controversial Connecticut Democrat-Independent fits into the future of the party.

A source with knowledge of the situation says that Reid will likely tell Lieberman that he is being stripped of his committee chairs -- a retributive move for the former vice presidential nominee's anti-Obama, anti-Democrat advocacy on behalf of John McCain.

Lieberman's current chairmanships include the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, the subcommittee on Private Sector and Consumer Solutions to Global Warming and Wildlife Protection, and the Subcommittee on AirLand Forces.

Stein stops short of reporting with 100% assurance that this is what the meeting between the two men will be about but says another source confirmed that at the very least Harry Reid is much more amenable to stripping Lieberman of his chairmanships that he was earlier this year when he seemed to rule it out. Hmm, wonder why. Could it be:

Joe Lieberman, August 3rd:

I assure you this, Tom: I'm not gonna to go to that convention -- the Republican convention -- and spend my time attacking Barack Obama. I'm gonna go there really talking about why I support John McCain and why I hope a lot of other independents and Democrats will do that.

Joe Lieberman, September 2nd:

When others wanted to retreat in defeat from the field of battle, when Barack Obama was voting to cut off funding for our troops on the ground, John McCain had the courage to stand against the tide of public opinion and support the surge and because of that, today, our troops are at last beginning to come home, not in failure, but in honor!"

You can't spell Lieberman without "lie." See ya, Joe.

Tags: chairmanships, Harry Reid, Joe Lieberman (all tags)



Re: Harry Reid To Meet With Joe Lieberman Today

Oh to be a fly on the wall. Harry Reid is someone who loves to giving a good smack down to folks who cross him.

by jsfox 2008-11-06 08:15AM | 0 recs
Do not forget Lieberman is against 60 seat majorit

Lieberman has gone on record saying it would be a bad thing if Democrats got 60 seat fillibuster proof majority. That statement in itself is grounds for kicking this guy out of the caucus.

by Pravin 2008-11-06 08:19AM | 0 recs
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If the Dems want to have a prayer to get to 60 votes..they had better keep Lieberman happy and let him keep his chairmanship..or the dems will just hand the republicans another member to help them filibuster everything.  Not smart politically to piss off Lieberman.

by karajan72 2008-11-06 08:20AM | 0 recs
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Look, Lieberman votes with the Dems on 80% of the issues, especially the economic ones.  He just went crazy over the war in Iraq where he gave unquestioning support to Bush.  Unless Lieberman has changed 100%, he is not going to work to fillibuster all the issues he worked for 20 years on.  And if he has changed that 100% we don't want him on our side anyway so he can go on FAUX news as a 'Democrat' who opposed Obama.

Lieberman deserves no support from the party as he gave it no support this year.   He can stay in the caucus, but there is NO way he should be allowed to have any leadership positions over loyal Democrats.

by gavoter 2008-11-06 08:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Harry Reid To Meet With Joe Lieberman Today

You're absolutely right - this guy is much more dangerous as a PR nightmare than he is as another minority Senator.

by auronrenouille 2008-11-06 09:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Harry Reid To Meet With Joe Lieberman Today

It's a matter of respect. If there are no consequences to actively campaigning against the Democratic Party then how will Reid keep the caucus together?

There are a bunch of Republican up in 2010 who want to be re-elected. If the GOP tries to use filibusters on everything then these Senators will lose re-election.

Remove Lieberman's chairmanships and let him decide if he wants to caucus with Dems or GOP. Or maybe Obama and Reid can get together and make Lieberman an offer he can't refuse.

Joe, you're going to be appointed ambassador to Canada. You can take it, or stay in the Senate. If you stay in the Senate, you won't chair a committee as long as the Dems are in the majority. And no bill you sponsor will ever come up for a vote on the floor or in committee.

by Carl Nyberg 2008-11-06 08:37AM | 0 recs
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If the Dems piss off Lieberman too much...he will bolt the party and give the republicans another member.  You can count on it.  That would mean the dems wouldn't be able to get to 60 votes.  We need Lieberman..like it or not.  The Dems have about the same # of senate seats that they had in 1992-94 during Clintons first 2 years.  It's not a major super majority here.  They need every member they can get.

by karajan72 2008-11-06 08:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Harry Reid To Meet With Joe Lieberman Today

And the downside of this is what exactly?

by nanorich 2008-11-06 09:01AM | 0 recs
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I am serious, if you couldn't count on Lieberman to vote with the Democrats on cloture, what possible use is he?

by nanorich 2008-11-06 09:03AM | 0 recs
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A-frickin'-men. Seriously, cloture?

What a tool.

And the absolute, paramount thing to do is remove Lieberman from any chairmanship where he has subpoena power. He has proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that he will gladly attack Democrats and Barack Obama. He was warned a thousand times. Furthermore, he is a exposure prostitute and the only way he can get camera time is to CONTINUE to sabotage the Dems.

The stakes are simply too high.

It would be unfortunate if he left the caucus but I for one would be overjoyed to see him go. The GOP DESERVES to have Joe Lieberman.

by alteran 2008-11-06 09:25AM | 0 recs
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And we're in the perfect place to deal with this.  We're not sitting on top of 60 and we're not close to 50.  If Joe wants to identify himself as an R then he's welcome to, but he does it knowing that the party identification will likely cost him his seat in CT.  We need to have a united party, and if he goes on the news every night talking about how awful Obama is and how ashamed he is to be in the Caucus, we'll be in worse shape than if we lose his vote.

by auronrenouille 2008-11-06 09:20AM | 0 recs
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Do you even understand history?   Do you even know what the difference in the caucus is today versus 1992??    The Democrats that we relied on back then were mostly Southern Conservative Democrats.   The caucus is much less conservative now.

And I am sorry, but we DO NOT need Lieberman.   You don't allow turncoats to stay part of the party.  

by gavoter 2008-11-06 09:28AM | 0 recs
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I don't think GOP is a risk to filibuster liberally.

But the GOP has the votes to filibuster with or without Lieberman.

Do you think there should be no consequences for Lieberman's disloyalty?

by Carl Nyberg 2008-11-06 10:05AM | 0 recs
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I kind of expect the GOP to play the victim rather than filibuster - "They have the votes, we can't stop them from destroying the universe!" - this is plainly a mandate and I don't think they want to be seen as standing directly in the way.  This isn't 1994; in 1994, they saw Clinton as being rebuked and took that as a license to filibuster everything that moved.  If they do that now, come 2010 (which is already probably not a good year for them, if all things remain static), they're just going to get slammed again and they'll lose the ability to filibuster.

Once the first Supreme Court justice is up for nomination, though... that fight is going to be uglier than ugly.  The sad fact is that it is vastly more likely to be a liberal or centrist who will be replaced :(. Alito and Roberts are going to be there for a good part of my life :(.

by auronrenouille 2008-11-06 10:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Harry Reid To Meet With Joe Lieberman Today

BS.  We can peel off one moderate, reasonable Republican on almost any issue we'd need to overcome a fillibuster for.  Pretty much any R still representing the Northeast, including Snowe and Collins.  We don't actually need 60. Lieberman's holding this party hostage has to stop.

by milton333 2008-11-06 10:16AM | 0 recs
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As far as votes on issues, he will still vote the way he wants on the issues. If he changes his votes out of spite, that will reflect on him directly and I wonder if he has the balls to do that.

The fact is this: We are not at 60 even with Lieberman. It is unfathomable to deprive a loyal Democrat of a position that would go to Lieberman.

by Pravin 2008-11-06 10:22AM | 0 recs
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Frankly, that's really a good idea, give him somewhere else to serve because otherwise he's going to end up quietly sidelined and then replaced by CT voters, at this rate.

by auronrenouille 2008-11-06 09:18AM | 0 recs
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You can't spell Lieberman without "lie."

Ouch. That one really  hurts. Just FYI, most Liebermans are REAL Democrats.

I remain,
Alice Lieberman

by alicel 2008-11-06 08:40AM | 0 recs
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If Reid seriously wants to remain in HIS position, he needs to kick Joe completely to the curb, out of the caucus.  Stating that Joe is fine except for the war is like saying I am fine except for the bullet in my brain.

After being handed the opportunity to run for Vice President, it is unforgivable what he did to Democrats at the RNC.

Unforgivable.  Elections have consequences, indeed.  Come on, Reid.  Grow a pair.

by congressive 2008-11-06 09:00AM | 0 recs
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This is maneuvering... a lot of the discussions will, frankly, involve a way to resolve this internally and maximizing face-saving.  If Reid were going to be a coward about this, he wouldn't be holding the meeting two days after a tidal wave election, he'd wait until the news media had moved on.

by auronrenouille 2008-11-06 10:11AM | 0 recs


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