GA-Sen: Republicans Stick with Same Lame Message

From Ben Smith comes the latest lame attempt by Republicans to try to use the image of national Democrats to try to hurt a down-ballot Democratic candidate, in this case Jim Martin in Georgia.

Asks Smith, "Is Chuck Schumer that well-known in Georgia?" I can't imagine the answer to that question is yes. I haven't been able to find any national polling on Schumer, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is presumably more well known to the public than DSCC chair Schumer, and Diageo/Hotline polling (.pdf) following the election found that only about a third of voters across the country knew enough about Reid to rate him favorably or unfavorably.

But even going beyond the issue of attacking politicians most voters are unlikely to know much about, the fundamental problem with this strategy by the Republicans is that the American people just aren't afraid of the idea of Democratic control over the government. Both John McCain and Senate Republicans tried to make the argument during the run up to the general election, and it didn't work then. Polling since the election shows that as many as three in five voters are content with the Democrats controlling both Congress and the Presidency. Why should we believe that all of the sudden this tack will finally begin to work?

Yes, showing a picture of Nancy Pelosi might make Republicans marginally more likely to go to the polls for what should be a relatively low turnout special Senate election in Georgia. But I just don't see her image, or that of Schumer, scaring up enough votes to justify spending money on television ads evoking their power on Capitol Hill.  

Tags: GA-Sen, Georgia, Senate 2008 (all tags)

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Ted Kennedy

That is how Paul Coverdale won in 1992.  They kept comparing Wyche Fowler to Ted Kennedy.   Chuck Schumer is not well known in Georgia, but they can tie Nancy Pelosi to San Francisco.

by gavoter 2008-11-12 09:00AM | 0 recs
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I am pretty confused about the Schumer reference as well. It can't be a profile issue for all the reasons stated above.

So what are we left with....  I would find it pretty hard to believe that it is just that his name sounds more "ethnic" or Jewish, but then again these are the same people that attacked Cleland for being a traitor so it is not like they have strong moral bounds or excessive integrity.

by Nindid 2008-11-12 09:09AM | 0 recs
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That it sounds Jewish is exactly the reason they used Schumer.

by DemJedi 2008-11-12 10:35AM | 0 recs
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Yup.  Did you see the Shambliss ran that had a picture of Chuck Schumer surrounded with bags of money?

Makes no sense but hey.

by Jess81 2008-11-12 10:59AM | 0 recs
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Please don't take offense to this anyone (I'm a Jew and I'm proud), but reading from left to right, here's what that picture is supposed to say: Feminists, Wimps, and Jews.

by williestark 2008-11-12 03:07PM | 0 recs
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*right to left*

by williestark 2008-11-12 03:07PM | 0 recs
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The runoff is about turnout, nothing else.  If you want to go after Saxby, use the same tactics that worked in NC.  Namely he is a do-nothing Senator. The SCHIP vote probably would work as well. This would work to keep down the GOP vote.  If you want to lose, make it about Obama (although carefully targeted mailings to Obama supporters would be a good idea).  We lost the runoff in '92 because we tried to use Clinton's "popularity" (he came and campaigned, etc.).  Republicans came out to vote their unhappiness with Clinton's election (and Georgia's electorial votes going to him).

Chambliss is a joke, we should be able to beat him.

by Do Something 2008-11-12 09:54AM | 0 recs
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Except that if it becomes too much about Obama it could have the opposite effect.   If Chambliss spends too much time attacking 'the first Black President' Black voters might actually come out in force.

So far Chambliss continues to attack Martin on tax issues.  

by gavoter 2008-11-12 10:09AM | 0 recs
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If Chambliss attacks Obama, then yea that works for us.  What I don't think would work is a campaign of "send Martin to Congress to help Obama" if presented in TV ads, etc.  This argument should be made directly (mailings, email, etc.) to Democrats.  Most of the ads I saw during the GE from Martin worked to tie Chambliss to the bailout.  I thought they were pretty good, but that point has been made.  Make Chambliss out as the useless Senator he is. Get Republicans thinking, "why bother?".  Work turnout in Fulton, Dekalb, Athens, Savannah and Augusta.  I am not sure when early voting starts, it was 30 days prior in the GE.  Keep in mind that the turnout in the GE was lower than in 2004 in Georgia.  One would expect the same in the runoff.

by Do Something 2008-11-12 01:32PM | 0 recs
GA-Sen: Republicans Stick with Same Message
Don't these guys know that their devisive message in a time of national crisis amounts to crying fire in a crowed theater--they obviously haven't gotten the results that Obama WON by over 5,000,000 votes --the Dems are taking over thanks to resolute and thoughtful voters who have stood together against these Nazi's since 2006.
I have called the radio stations that carry Rush around here and politely raised the issue that THE ELECTION IS OVER AND THAT RIGHTWING RADIO SHOULD MOVE ON OR SHUT DOWN.....don't buy products endorsed by Rush and Hannity...i.e. Swiffer home products--Rush is their radio spokesman--I refuse to buy their products for may home--the GOP power only understands one thing---Shareholder equity--seen the latest equity in Rightwing Clear Channel radio lately--They LOST $800 million in the last 3 quarters of 2008--screw em call up their advertisers and tell em you aint buying products to be used against Democrats....
by hddun2008 2008-11-12 09:58AM | 0 recs
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National results are useless in this context: Obama won the national vote by 8 million but still lost in Georgia by 4%. How many McCain-Martin voters do you think there are?

Our only hope in winning this seat is if the turnout is severely depressed on the Republican side. Which the Republican's realize as well; that may not be a good national message, but it will do just fine in getting their base out in Georgia, I'm afraid.

by fsm 2008-11-12 11:01AM | 0 recs
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Run-offs are ALWAYS severly depressed.   They really are a joke.

The results from 11/4 are meaningless.    GOP voters turn out far more often in Run-offs giving them a big advantage.    There will most likely be less than 500,000 voters in this run-off, maybe less than 400,000.

If Martin can leverage the Obama ground team from 11/4 he may still have a chance.  Turnout will be so low that a very good turnout in Fulton and DeKalb could still win it for Martin.   The issue is going to be getting Democrats out to the polls.  The Democratic Party has not had good luck in getting people out for Run-offs.

by gavoter 2008-11-12 12:12PM | 0 recs
Probably what is going on

Is that the lobbyists are doing the commercials for saxby now.

by Trey Rentz 2008-11-12 10:49AM | 0 recs
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Reid isn't Jewish and Schumer is.  That's why they did this in Kentucky and why they are doing it in Georgia.  NY Jew is a bad thing in these places.  This is just another side of the NY and Hollywood liberal thing they do from time to time.

by Marylander 2008-11-12 12:28PM | 0 recs
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What's the confusion? "Fear of the Unknown Other" is a huge part of Republican election strategy.

Jim Martin is a liberal. He pals around with a bunch of other liberals you've never heard of. It's scary! Look at the desaturated colors! Listen to the spooky music!

Be afraid! Be very afraid!

Vote Chambliss.

by Justin Alexander 2008-11-12 01:40PM | 0 recs

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