Civil War within GOP Becomes More Overt

Earlier this month I reported on some of the first skirmishes in the seemingly brewing civil war within the Republican Party. Cut forward now to less than two weeks before election day, and the internecine battle continues, much to the detriment of the GOP.

For starters, take a look at the ad that the National Senatorial Campaign Committee is running in North Carolina -- an ad that all but assumes a Barack Obama presidency:

John McCain is returning the favor -- and then some -- directing fire not only at George W. Bush, but also at congressional Republicans. The Washington Times has the story (h/t Jonathan Martin).

"I think, frankly, the problem was, with a Republican Congress, that the president was told by the speaker and majority leaders and others, 'Don't veto these bills, we need this pork, we need this excess spending, we need to grow these bureaucracies.' They all sponsor certain ones. And he didn't do what Ronald Reagan used to and say, 'No'; say, 'No. We're not going to do this.'"

Per Mike Allen, these types of attacks from McCain have prompted some within the GOP to ask why their current nominee couldn't act a little more like their 1996 nominee, Bob Dole -- yes, Republicans are telling the press they'd rather McCain be more like Dole (because at least Dole realized late in the game that he wasn't going to win, so he directed his energies towards helping out the party down-ballot rather than aiming his fire at his would-be supporters). When you have Republicans wishing you're more like the candidate who reeled in 159 electoral votes 12 years ago, you're doing something wrong -- and there are real divisions within the party.

Tags: Republican Party, White House 2008 (all tags)



Bob Dole would've been a decent president

I didn't agree with him on anything, but he wasn't a bad guy and had a pretty good sense of humor.

I saw flickers of Bob Dole at McCain's part of the Alfred E. Smith dinner last week.

by Dracomicron 2008-10-23 08:53AM | 0 recs
the Illinois GOP has been frozen out

and they have some great fights about who is to blame.

by Carl Nyberg 2008-10-23 08:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Civil War within GOP Becomes More Overt

McCain's pork argument aimed at absolving himself of responsibility doesn't hold water. What about his voting with Bush 90% of the time himself? He's Bush all over again, or rather he would be if he became president, God forbid.

by phoenixdreamz 2008-10-23 09:00AM | 0 recs
The war is indeed coming

It's the Mitt Romney/National Review/George Wills/Country Club moneyed crowd vs. the Sarah Palin/Rush Limbaugh/James Dobson/Evangelical Social warriors....

It will be fun to watch, eh?

by WashStateBlue 2008-10-23 09:07AM | 0 recs
Re: The war is indeed coming

indeed but we have to learn the lesson from this.

National Parties today have to be big tents, when a party forgets that, the fall into civil war.

The Democratic party will never be 100% perfect to anyone, so have to find the core convictions that time after time can keep the party united and moving forward.

so that in 16 years the roles here aren't reversed again.

by TruthMatters 2008-10-23 09:19AM | 0 recs
Glory Glory Halleluhah!

Let the battles spill into the Congressional Halls of Washington to the Churches of Alabama. Let the blame game be played out in the tundra of Alaska to the Everglades of Florida.

We know that George W. Bush destroyed America's standing in the world and destroyed the World Economy. We know that McCain destroyed the Republicans chances of winning by being erratic and Palin destroyed McCain's chances of winning the presidency by being a know nothing.

by Zzyzzy 2008-10-23 09:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Civil War within GOP Becomes More Overt

Don't celebrate too much.  We Dems need a viable opposition, or we will become fat, intellectually lazy and corrupt over time.

It is human nature.

by interguru 2008-10-23 09:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Civil War within GOP Becomes More Overt
True, but it may take a while before you get one, no matter what kind of President Obama is should he be elected.
My biggest concern is that what everyone feared about the GOP after the Goldwater debacle (the end of the party)might actually come to pass (even with Aaron Shock as the youngest member of Congress).
I'm afraid that any viable opposition may have to come from an insurgent wing of the Democrats.
Mike Malloy used to call Bill Clinton "the best moderate Republican President we ever had."
So that's why I empathized with the Big Dog.
by spirowasright 2008-10-23 01:26PM | 0 recs

His lifelong marriage to America-hating, terrorist fist bumping, black power activist, Michelle Obama.

Nice!  Or as we like to think of her, the woman who rags on Barack for wearing 10 year old worn out shoes!

That Elite harlet!

by WashStateBlue 2008-10-23 10:11AM | 0 recs
Re: RNC aghast over Nieman-Marcusgate

We have reached an amazing point in history when an official release from the RNC reads exactly like a robocall.

Obama "ruined" Joe Wurtlbacher's life by respectfully and fully answering the guy's shouted-out question in a public forum? Obama "forced" McCain to refer to Joe the Plumber 23 times in the last debate?

I have a question. What kind of shit is more insane than batshit?

by anoregonreader 2008-10-23 10:21AM | 0 recs
Re: RNC aghast over Nieman-Marcusgate

A robo-call or poorly written attempt at being Stephen Colbert.

by spirowasright 2008-10-23 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Civil War within GOP Becomes More Overt

This is what you call excessive triumphalism. Worried that there won't be any opposition? Hilarious, you should print these precious comments out and hang them on the wall so you can have a good laugh come 2010 or 2012 about how naive you were in 2008.

As if the debate in the GOP is any different than what you normally see in a party in a losing year.

The pendulum swings back and forth across the fulcrum of the moderate center.  And I dare say shallow and fickle center.

Still, its fun to see what neophytes some commentators on this thread can be.

by dMarx 2008-10-23 02:29PM | 0 recs


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