John Edwards Dropping Out

More in a bit...

It doesn't sound like an endorsement is coming, and the focus is going to be on poverty. Well, that's the story for today. Tomorrow night, Clinton and Obama will debate in Los Angeles. Four days later, 23 states will vote.

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Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

Jerome we beating you on breaking the news,lol.

by Jr1886 2008-01-30 04:17AM | 0 recs
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Sorry to hear this.

by Ga6thDem 2008-01-30 04:19AM | 0 recs

Game on.

He was cutting into Clinton's support among working class Democrats.

by dpANDREWS 2008-01-30 04:19AM | 0 recs

DP, you're as classy as your candidate.

by filby 2008-01-30 04:56AM | 0 recs

So pretty classless then?

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-30 05:01AM | 0 recs

Not worthy of a response. Your pettiness and hostility speaks for itself.

by desmoulins 2008-01-30 05:50AM | 0 recs
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Dear lord, Dp, that's not true or fair.

John Edwards has been a superb candidate, and added so much to this race.

I'm heartsick he's out.  He was my strong second choice.  I would have NO problem campaigning for him for president, and I would feel 100% secure seeing him in the Oval Office.  

And the debate Thurs. night will be that much less informative for his absence.  

To all of his supporters: I've been impressed by your work ethic, your passion, your commitment, and your energy.  You made your candidate proud by conducting a classy campaign.

by susanhu 2008-01-30 06:38AM | 0 recs
Wudda I say

I didn't bad mouth the guy.  It is a simple fact.   This has been a two person race since NH and Edwards was cutting into CLinton's numbers - not intentionally, but they were chasing the same demo.

Now it is a 1 on 1 fight.   Well see if the DC establishmant and his money can propel Obama to the WHite House.

by dpANDREWS 2008-01-31 08:10AM | 0 recs

Ugh.   You do not speak for most Clinton supporters, and certainly not for me, thank you.  

Have a little grace and class.  Your candidate has loads.  You, apparently, not so much.

by WMCB 2008-01-30 06:44AM | 0 recs

Please don't say things like that.

by bowiegeek 2008-01-30 08:23AM | 0 recs
Obama may get his endorsement ...

... but Hillary will ultimately get his voters.  This is good news for her, more bad news for Obama.

by Sieglinde 2008-01-30 04:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama may get his endorsement ...

We'll see

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-30 04:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama may get his endorsement ...

We don't know yet how his supporters will react.  Let's give them the time to take in this very sad news .. I really feel for them because he was a great candidate who made the race better and more focused on issues.

by susanhu 2008-01-30 06:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama may get his endorsement ...

Well, first off, can you be a bit more crass?

Second, here in Virginia, I promise you that 75% of Edwards supporters will be for Obama.  It's very apparent in committee meetings, on blogs, and around the state that most Edwards supporters' second choice is Obama, and vice-versa.

As an Obama supporter and Edwards delegate at the 2004 convention from VA's 10th congressional district, I am very sad to see John leaving the race.

It must be for a good reason, and I hope Elizabeth is OK.

by Doug in Virginia 2008-01-30 07:49AM | 0 recs
Edwards should take on Liddy Dole

I'd love to see it.

by dpANDREWS 2008-01-30 04:22AM | 0 recs
that would be interesting

I agree.

by desmoinesdem 2008-01-30 04:51AM | 0 recs
Re: that would be interesting

Me too.  I think he goes the Al Gore route though and concentrates on building his issue of economic fairness and poverty into a big part fo the national debate.  Maybe we will see a Nobel Prize in Edwards future... or the AG role at the least.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-30 04:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards should take on Liddy Dole

That's where he should have been all along.  I am not saying he shouldn't have also run for President, but I wish he had stayed in the Senate too as a strong progressive voice.

by rcipw 2008-01-30 04:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards should take on Liddy Dole

I like Edwards ... was a fan in 04.  But I do wonder if people forget sometimes that when he was in the Senate, from what I remember, he wasn't offering up the populist/progressive stance that he did this campaign cycle.

I too would love to see him challenge and beat Dole.

by toonsterwu 2008-01-30 05:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards should take on Liddy Dole

If Clinton or Obama winds up as president, I am hoping Edwards will be AG.

by Beltway Dem 2008-01-30 05:11AM | 0 recs
Re: AG--an AWESOME thought...

Oh, that is a dream I can smile about I tell you. Think of what it would mean to this country. Think of what it COULD mean to prosecutions of criminal behavior going on right now, too.

John Edwards as Attorney General of the United States.

Bring it on, baby!

by Tennessean 2008-01-30 05:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards should take on Liddy Dole

Obama would. Why would Clinton pick Edwards when they have nothing in common, and there are a ton of lawyers in the Clinton machine who would do anything for the job?

by xodus1914 2008-01-30 06:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards should take on Liddy Dole

Gracious, as always. I am quite certain that John Edward has far more dignity than you suggest. I have no doubt that he doesn't feel this way at all.

by Denny Crane 2008-01-30 05:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards should take on Liddy Dole

Nope, I didn't think about my choice for Barack Obama at all.  Yeah, someone on television told me I should support him---in February '07!  Yeah!

Come on man, get a grip.

Sour grapes only get you so far, I'd advise not to try them too much.

Are you a Democrat?  Nice, referring to your own party as dumb?  What a winning tactic!

by Doug in Virginia 2008-01-30 07:57AM | 0 recs
Sad to hear

He's made a difference in this campaign.

by souvarine 2008-01-30 04:22AM | 0 recs
He was a great voice

for the poor and oppressed.  He made a real difference.

by Beltway Dem 2008-01-30 05:11AM | 0 recs
I think so too

he was running a great campaign with Elizabeth helping him when they were obviously under great stress, he's rather heroic.  I'm a Hillary supporter but I thought he spoke for ordinary Americans. He'd make a great Attorney General, don't you think?  

by anna shane 2008-01-30 01:14PM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

If he had stayed in until Super Tuesday he would have picked up at least some delegates and increased his bargaining leverage.

For that reason, I suspect that for him to drop out today, there must be something in it for him.  We can speculate about what that might be.

I salute John Edwards for running a great, progressive campaign that was a credit to the Democratic Party.

by Steve M 2008-01-30 04:23AM | 0 recs
And so do I.

Now I haven't been an Edwards supporter this year, but I still appreciate all he contributed to the race. He did raise important issues, and he overall made quite a positive contribution to the campaign. He may be out of the race now, but I hope this isn't the last we see of him.

by atdleft 2008-01-30 04:42AM | 0 recs
Health care

He drove health care debate and proposals to the more progressive and universal end of the spectrum. For that, as well as his anti-poverty message, I salute him.

A true patriot.

by Coral 2008-01-30 04:48AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

What do you think was offered Steve?

by lonnette33 2008-01-30 04:46AM | 0 recs
Well, for starters...

I must give Edwards his due on talking the issues. While I occasionally got annoyed with him when he took negative turns, I always appreciated him whwn he stayed positive and focused on the real issues that matter. And you know what? I think I'll always fondly remember that last debate in South Carolina, when he interrupted Obama lashing out at Hillary as Hill was fighting back... To remind everyone that we still have hungry kids to feed and homeless veterans to shelter and real people to help. I really think Edwards grew as a candidate and as an activist this year... And I sincerely hope President Hillary Clinton remembers that as she's looking for a VP and an Attorney General. :-)

by atdleft 2008-01-30 04:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Well, for starters...

I love your eloquence in words atdleft.

by lonnette33 2008-01-30 05:36AM | 0 recs
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Attorney General probably.  Just wondering by whom.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-30 04:56AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

According to the WSJ's Novack, Obama offered him the AG position.  However, we are talking about Novack, who is definitely a Repug hack.

by lonnette33 2008-01-30 05:37AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

framecop, I'm acutally sad JRE is dropping out. His performance in the last debate was great. I do think the Media gave him a hard time and whole hair thing was ridiculous. I would have fully supported his nomination if he were chosen. JRE is a good man. A partisan DEM-which I appreciate. He will be missed. However, I know he will be turning up somewhere in the next DEM administration.

Have you thought about who you will support-HRC or BO?

by lonnette33 2008-01-30 05:59AM | 0 recs
I understand.

Then I hope Richard Moore creams the hell out of the Repugs.

by lonnette33 2008-01-30 07:06AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

Last night I quoted Pat Buchanan's comment after New Hampshire this year:

"You don't drop out after you lose a primary.  You drop out after you run out of money."

by rcipw 2008-01-30 05:00AM | 0 recs
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There was some discussion that he may not have really had enough delegates to really have much leverage....

by Gloria 2008-01-30 06:18AM | 0 recs
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I think Edwards would do best to either take the AG role in either admin. or go for Gov. of NC.

It's too bad he handed Clinton the nomination today, but he ran a good campaign.

by Socks The Cat 2008-01-30 04:23AM | 0 recs

I think he'd make a great governor.

by bowiegeek 2008-01-30 08:26AM | 0 recs
Obama and Edwards struck a deal?


by puma 2008-01-30 04:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama and Edwards struck a deal?

He really needs his support because if Edwards supporters trend demographically it's going to be bad for Obama.

by kristoph 2008-01-30 05:42AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

I did not support John Edwards this time around (I voted for him in the 2004 primaries), but I do think that he raised several policy platforms that affected the race in a positive way.

I do wonder how his dropping out will affect the race b/w Clinton and Obama. For instance, what will the debate look like tomorrow? Who will he endorse? Will his endorsement sway his supporters to one side or another? Who will be able to win over Edwards' supporters the most? In what states or districts? Will his leaving the race now help to wrap up the nomination process sooner?

by ademption 2008-01-30 04:25AM | 0 recs
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Come on. You have already decided.  :-)

by georgep 2008-01-30 04:39AM | 0 recs
i find you to be a

very likable person.

by Seymour Glass 2008-01-30 05:27AM | 0 recs
Me too!

by lonnette33 2008-01-30 05:39AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

wow.  much respect for edwards, particularly if he does not endorse anyone before february 5th.  like ademption, i supported him in 04.  as a hrc supporter, i'm wary that edwards has some deal with obama in place.

by toonsterwu 2008-01-30 04:32AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

Gosh I hope you are right

Obama/Edwards!! 2008

The year it all changed.

by inexile 2008-01-30 04:39AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

Edwards may throw his support on Obama, but his voters will split evenly between Obama and HRC, or may even break for Hillary in a wide margin.

Downscale Dems don't trust Obama.  I have firsthand anecdotal data, from where I sit.  The few people that would have wanted to vote for Edwards on Super Tuesday-- all of them look at Obama and don't see a fighter for them.  They're looking for a fighter for the little people.   And Hillary seems like she's a greater advocate for these important issues.

by Sieglinde 2008-01-30 04:45AM | 0 recs
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Wow the plethora of evidence you submit to support your claim is astonishing... oh wait.  

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-30 04:58AM | 0 recs
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Are you familiar with the term anecdotal?

by realistic democrat 2008-01-30 05:21AM | 0 recs
For the good of the Party.....

florida exit polls had conservative dems voting for edwards over hllary, Barry.

this sets a gain for Hill.

For the good of the Party, obama should drop out too.

by Seymour Glass 2008-01-30 05:37AM | 0 recs
Re: For the good of the Party.....

For the good of this website, why don't you go away. Your continued vitriol is not helping your candidate.

by Lawdawg 2008-01-30 05:46AM | 0 recs
For the good of the Party.....

but first, he should apologize to bob kerry and andrew cuomo for slandering their good names...and then he should give up his now useless race...

since he can't win , he can now only do damage to our chances come November.

For the good of the Party, he should quit.  Now.

before he goes, he should also apologize for his rude snub of the other night, which was classless, made even worse because he lied about it.  

Then he can begin his inevitable race for governor of Illinois, cause he wont be coming back to DC.  Ever.

by Seymour Glass 2008-01-30 06:24AM | 0 recs
Re: For the good of the Party.....

If Obama hadn't run, we would have had a clear choice between Clinton and Edwards!!   Can't vote for either H or O....two peas in a corporate pod...

by Gloria 2008-01-30 06:20AM | 0 recs
Re: For the good of the Party.....

That's ridiculous!  How is Obama a "corporate" candidate!?

He could've sold out and make oodles as a Harvard law grad.  Did he?

I hate it when Democrats are disingenuous with one another...

All three are better than any Repug, so please don't follow the self-defeatist malarky!

by Doug in Virginia 2008-01-30 08:11AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

Actually, if we used statistical evidence only, it would suggest a significant boost for Clinton.

Edwards attracted most white, older, union, core democratic voters. Clinton wins in all these demographics by a wide margin.

If you just used race alone it would mean a 9% boost for Clinton nationally.

But anyway speculation is pointless. I am sure everyone will be resetting their polls and we'll start seeing the outcome by the weekend.

by kristoph 2008-01-30 06:03AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

I do not think endorsements matter at all, from wherever they may come, and that holds true for Ted Kennedy or John Edwards.

Long ago and far away most Democrats made up their minds in this contest.

The implications are beyond endorsement.

The lethal aspect of the Obama campaign came after South Carolina.

The media flogged Bill Clinton with a cat o' nine tails for remarking upon the obvious: the media itself ignored in that state Jesse Jackson's very impressive win (more so than Obama's) with 64% in 1988.  

They, and not Bill Clinton, then dismissed this as "racial."  

And by playing race cards, that is the candidate, sadly, Obama has become.

The Florida results were very telling: Obama lost every group across the board save for African-Americans.

I've no doubt Obama will do well with more than just African-Americans next Tuesday.

But I've also no doubt that the political know-how and supreme maturity of the two Clintons is what it will take to challenge John McCain.

Obama has many fine qualities, but he is a neophyte and one cannot be that and successfully commandeer a White House run.

Most Democrats recognized that obvious fact in Obama a long time ago.  

This is why, after his initial flurry in Iowa, Obama never won again, save for the very racially charged South Carolina.

He has a promising future--but Senator Obama has yet much to learn, much to understand, before assuming the United States presidency.

by lambros 2008-01-30 04:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Long Ago

Geez, Since most Democrats made up their minds so long ago, why is Hillary bothering to campaign?

by filby 2008-01-30 04:54AM | 0 recs
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The problem is with this is that supporters don't always do what their candidate thinks they should.  For example, I seriously doubt if Guiliani supporters will vote for McCain just because Rudy endorses him.

At any rate, Edwards' advisers are saying he won't endorse right away. So if that's true, the question is moot.

by Denny Crane 2008-01-30 05:23AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

If a deal has been cut between Edwards and Obama, they may be waiting until the weekend (Friday?) to announce it for maximum impact.  In the case of Edwards actually endorsing Hillary, the same might apply here.

by georgep 2008-01-30 05:40AM | 0 recs
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Edwards is a smart guy. He is going to wait until after the 5th and then back the winning candidate.

by kristoph 2008-01-30 06:05AM | 0 recs
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by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-30 04:39AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out
ha ha ha
I love the Clintonites attempt to spin this towards them. If this follows with a Kennedy like speech about a new generation of leadership, then Obama may be unstoppable.
by inexile 2008-01-30 04:41AM | 0 recs
Wow, that was tasteless!

I don't think any of us are trying to "spin" this... Except maybe you. I am a little sad to see Edwards go, and yet I also must be appalled at how a few Obama people are trying to take advantage of this and treat Edwards like he's some rotting carcass. Nasty.

by atdleft 2008-01-30 04:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Wow, that was tasteless!

Before you talk about Obama supporters you might want to look at DPAndrews post further up... this is a sad day for America. We needed Edwards in this race to talk about the issues no one else is willing to take on.

by JDF 2008-01-30 04:53AM | 0 recs
OK, I stand corrected...

I'm sorry about that. I just noticed dpANDREWS upthread, and I just want to say I don't agree with his statement. I certainly wouldn't dismiss Edwards as just a "spoiler", as I think he has made many positive contributions to the campaign. I'm sorry about that.

by atdleft 2008-01-30 05:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Wow, that was tasteless!

Sorry? All the comments about how this is going to break for HRC aren't spinning, and my laughter is treating JRE as a "rotting carcass"?

Oh my, I'm so sorry, you must be right, and I am in my place.

by inexile 2008-01-30 04:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Wow, that was tasteless!

In most civilized societies, the correct thing to do after someone apologizes is to accept the the apology, but clearly, that's not good enough for you.  Do you want blood?

by Denny Crane 2008-01-30 05:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Wow, that was tasteless!

I accept, didn't see the apology, and I also apologize for ill-feeling that may have been generated by my post - I did attempt to keep my response light.

You are quite right about civilized societies -it was my oversight --- not a further attack.

I was surprised, in my defence, and saddened by the suggestion that I was discounting JRE, or merely attacking HRC.

If you want my bias here;

If its McCain or any Republican against HRC, there is no question, HRC for two terms, but not necessarily HRC.

by inexile 2008-01-30 05:34AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

For those that said that the Florida Democratic Primary didn't count, this will change that opinion, it does matter, Edwards is dropping out because he did so bad there...

by my nickle 2008-01-30 04:42AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

Well I'm now in the Clinton camp. Not like my vote in PA was anytime soon. My mother liked Edwards but I think was leaning towards Clinton in Delaware anyway. I'll have to ask her. I like Obama, but I've absolutely hated his campaign themes. Hope is great, but it's silly for that to be the central theme of a campaign in a Democratic primary. We're pissed and we want change. I liked the fired up Obama. His speeches and debate performances just don't impress me, he seems to stumble. I'm glad it's not just me that feels this way. It seems Raising Kaine, DKos, and so many other places are Obama camps.

by Airb330 2008-01-30 04:42AM | 0 recs
Yay Delaware!

Im from there too!

No,that this part of the race is all but over, Im hoping Hillary picks our man Joe Biden as her VP.

If not with McCain, Dems will have a serious "laughter gap" to overcome.  Joe is bitchin funny, we need that..

by Seymour Glass 2008-01-30 04:58AM | 0 recs
No, it's not just you...

It's a WHOLE LOT of us who feel the same way. I started out as an Obama person because I wanted to feel the "hope" and the "change", but I just never saw it materialize. While the Obama campaign may think the vagueness helps them, it really doesn't. We actually want to see what the "change" will really look like in terms of foreign policy, health care, climate change, the economy, and more... We actually need something to "hope" for!

That's where I have to give Edwards credit. At least he matched his "change" talk with a real plan of action. It's just too bad he was ignored by the MSM far too often. But hopefully, Hillary Clinton won't ignore him... He's still got to have a great future ahead of him, as our party can't afford to lose him! :-)

by atdleft 2008-01-30 05:07AM | 0 recs
Re: No, it's not just you...

I love our media.  Even when John Edwards was running first in the Iowa polls, the media paid no attention to him at all.  John had good ideas and important things to say, but no one heard it because of the media blackout, and that's a shame.

I have no idea where Edwards' supporters will end up (although I know where I'd like them to end up), but the race was more interesting and substantive because of his presence.

by Denny Crane 2008-01-30 05:33AM | 0 recs
Re: No, it's not just you... printForChange.pdf

I hope that provides enough specifics for you to chew on... Get back to us after you read it.  It's pretty good.

by Chili Dogg 2008-01-30 05:34AM | 0 recs
Re: No, it's not just you...

You know it's a photocopy of the DLC's Blueprint magazine, right? Down to the title? Sometimes Obama supporters don't realize that.

Not that it's a terrible thing, the Edwards and Clinton platforms are only a little to the left policy-wise. But both of them are full-throated Democrats, so they are more appealing to me, a Democrat.

by souvarine 2008-01-30 06:00AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

Too bad about Edwards dropping out.  I expected him to make it to Feb. 5.  But these things cost a lot of money, and without enough of it the math was probably not very friendly to him for picking up a decent amount of delegates on Feb. 5.

I think a deal has been made, which is ok by me.  Let them throw everything in and the kitchen sink.  I want Hillary to win against the best combination her opponents can come up with.

by georgep 2008-01-30 04:44AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

I have heard that John Edwards that he would like to be Attorney General...  Wonder if anybody has offered that to him..

by my nickle 2008-01-30 04:46AM | 0 recs
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Um..... shut up.

by JDF 2008-01-30 04:56AM | 0 recs
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I think Edwards 04 is far different from Edwards 08 btw.  He took a much more moderated stance on things in 04.  I'm not saying he wouldn't have been the strongest challenger or not - just saying I think the two Edwards are different and should be acknowledged as such.

by toonsterwu 2008-01-30 05:12AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

That is just plain ridiculous.  Hillary is being vilified by most of the media, from Matthews to Russert to Dowd to.... the list is endless.  Yet, she is winning because she has DEMOCRATS on her side, and the media is stunned and perplexed at their inability to choose our candidate for us.

by georgep 2008-01-30 05:18AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

There was an interesting piece yesterday by noted Clinton hater Noam Schreiber about the Clinton backlash backlash. Basically he see's the media and the party big wigs lining up behind Obama and the ordinary democrats lining up behind Hillary. He's got about right I'd say.  

by ottovbvs 2008-01-30 05:32AM | 0 recs
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"The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about."
--Oscar Wilde
by jeffbinnc 2008-01-30 05:39AM | 0 recs
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I think we can all agree here that the media is to 90% in Obama's camp.  That has colored coverage of Hillary in overwhelmingly negative terms.  The only thing that has saved her so far is that the voters have decided to ignore and tune out the obvious desires and wishes of the Russerts, Matthews, Carlsons, Dowds, and Andersons of the media circus.   That impotence is what is incensing the collective media more and more, which is why we have seen this crescendo of neg. coverage escalate more and more.  

Think about this:  After the last debate Edwards was all over the media, he was in a way a media darling for a few cycles.  What had changed?  For the first time he actually decided to go after both candidates equally, and let Obama have it as well, and hefty, for a change.  If that Edwards would have been there earlier, a lot may have developed differently.  I was very impressed with Edwards in that last debate, and stated so here often.  That is the Edwards I would have liked to continue participating in debates and continue to be part of the process to further the progressive thrust of the campaigns.   I think it came down to lack of funds to compete in such a massive concentration of states on one single day.  

by georgep 2008-01-30 05:55AM | 0 recs
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True. Dowd speaks like she has shit in her mouth; she really irritates me. I don't care for Obama's campaign, but I just find it weird that every conservative seems hell-bent on propping up Obama. It's not because of his policies. I don't get it. Even redstate seems to defend him. Why do these people hate Hillary Clinton so much? It's ridiculous.

by Airb330 2008-01-30 06:30AM | 0 recs
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What a sad day for progressives and a triumph for big business and corporate politics. I suspect that what drove his decision may have had more to do with family (Elizabeth's health, his kids) than career. Although I'm sure we have not heard the last of Edwards, his role in the Democratic party will be diminished by the mainstream media and the party leadership in general who found his outspoken platform "for those without a voice in Washington" to be an annoyance on their way to maintaining control of the top-down narrative of our nation's politics. And yes, Steve, M, what a bummer that now we'll have to decide between the personality driven candidates served up to us by their adoring media and their moneyed backers.

by jeffbinnc 2008-01-30 04:46AM | 0 recs
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Correction: Steve M, AND Undies Sided.

by jeffbinnc 2008-01-30 04:51AM | 0 recs
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Credit where credit is due.

by jeffbinnc 2008-01-30 05:52AM | 0 recs
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He won't because he's not a nihilist like a lot of his supporters.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-30 05:26AM | 0 recs
I fell asleep last night

when I was supposed to be writing my candidate blogger post, and I wake up to this?

I don't get it.

Jerome, if it's ok with you, I would like to post about the Boswell/Fallon race (IA-03) on the weekends.

by desmoinesdem 2008-01-30 04:47AM | 0 recs
Re: I fell asleep last night

Yea, that'd be great.

by Jerome Armstrong 2008-01-30 05:13AM | 0 recs
Re:Very Bad News for Obama

I tend to think that way as well, that, one the issues, most Edwards voters would go to HRC.  I just wonder what would happen if Edwards endorsed someone.

All that said, I think it is somewhat funny that most people are focusing on Obama picking up Edwards.  HRC did have that strangely long conversation post-debate with Edwards.  Maybe Edwards ends up deciding to support someone closer to his policy views.

All I'm hoping for, though, is that he stays neutral until February 5th.

by toonsterwu 2008-01-30 04:47AM | 0 recs
I just hope

He's not dropping out because of some turn in Elizabeth's health.  It seems to me he has very little reason to drop out right now, it is a big surprise to me.  Why not get a bunch of delegates on Feb 5 and play a larger role in perhaps a brokered convention?

by snaktime 2008-01-30 04:50AM | 0 recs
Re: I just hope

he's dropping out because he has no chance of winning.. well, maybe 1 state on february 5th, possibly.. but even thats a long shot.

by soros 2008-01-30 05:33AM | 0 recs
Re: I just hope

The fear for Elizabeth Edwards health was my immediate reaction.  I could not remember seeing her in any of the campaign coverage with John Edwards lately - only their daughter Kate was with him.

by NYMARJ 2008-01-30 06:41AM | 0 recs
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ANother great post Lambros. Edwards please take care of your wife and help her fight for her life.  God bless him and her family!

by nzubechukwu 2008-01-30 04:52AM | 0 recs
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Check out Campaign Diaries's detailed analysis as to who this might help and who Edwards's votes could migrate to next week.

by LeftistAddiction 2008-01-30 04:53AM | 0 recs
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Clinton - Edwards 2008. That has an awesome ring to it!

by TexasDems 2008-01-30 04:54AM | 0 recs
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Look...I liked Edwards as much as the next guy...but what states does he bring her that she wouldn't already win?

by JDF 2008-01-30 04:57AM | 0 recs
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I don't think Edwards goes the VP route again, though I could be wrong.  I think with his wife's situation, it would not surprise me in the least if he continued with his non-governmental work, work that allows him to spend more time with family.

That said, I'm also not certain Hillary should go that route either.  How does it help her?  He's staked a very, well, for lack of a better word, left, agenda.  We don't need to encourage the conservative base to be as mobilized as possible.

by toonsterwu 2008-01-30 05:09AM | 0 recs
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Sorry to hear JRE's leaving the race. He's a fighter. I am confident he will be showing up somewhere in the next DEM administation.

by lonnette33 2008-01-30 05:09AM | 0 recs
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I'm sorry to hear this for his supporters, who are about as loyal a bunch as I've ever seen.

I believe John shoved the window left on a lot of populist issues, and for that he has my thanks.   I hope he can find an outlet for his passion for his causes.

by WMCB 2008-01-30 05:10AM | 0 recs
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Obama has an average of 25% on Super Tuesday, while HRC is at ~45%.
If Edwards' %15 gives HRC just 5% additional votes, she nails it.

States don't matter as Democrats don't have any winner takes all states.

by rolnitzky 2008-01-30 05:11AM | 0 recs
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He fought the good fight and it must have been tough keeping up his morale in the face of limited press coverage and no wins. He has to be respected both as a candidate and as a voice for ordinary folk. So now we turn to the reading of the will and let's not be too self righteous about it, if Edwards was one of the two left standing he'd be doing the same. As to what happens now with his support I'd say it's going to tend to break to Hillary as basically it's the core Democratic constituency. A two thirds one third split seems probable. If he declared for Obama it might make a marginal difference but I suspect based on what I read here and elsewhere  they are the Hillary hate crowd in many cases. If she get's two thirds it's hard to see how she doesn't wrap this up next Tuesday. And a good thing too with McCain looming on the horizon.      

by ottovbvs 2008-01-30 05:23AM | 0 recs
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I am shocked.  Although a big critic of his, there is no denying his first health care plan helped pave the way for Clinton to be so bold in hers- and he helped drive alot of the issues.  He has been a big influence in the campaign.

I honestly don't know which one benefits more from him dropping out.  Though I know he would not endorse Hillary, I am not sure why people think he would rush to endorse Obama- endorsing Obama is a complete betrayal of "Universal Healthcare" which was one of his main issues.  And as he said many times, he and Hillary's healthcare plans are basically the same.

I am a bit relieved he won't be in the debate Thurs- he helped Hillary incredibly in the last debate but that was the first time he ever did that- almost all the others consisted of Obama and himself ganging up on her- and easily could have reverted back to that.

by reasonwarrior 2008-01-30 05:36AM | 0 recs
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john edwards kept the other two candidates honest, and his message need to be carried on into the campaign. even though i support hillary, i have to admit that he made the discourse more about what it should be about - the quality of life on ordinary americans.

by campskunk 2008-01-30 05:37AM | 0 recs
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part of the AP
"Democrat John Edwards is exiting the presidential race Wednesday, ending a scrappy underdog bid in which he steered his rivals toward progressive ideals while grappling with family hardship that roused voter's sympathies but never diverted his campaign, The Associated Press has learned."

Which of the two will now embrace the most of his "progressive ideals"? Here in Denver the Obama commercials now playing are lifted directly from what Edwards has said in this campaign.
The next debate will be worth watching...

Remember folks neither Clinton nor Obama is the enemy. The enemy is the Republican Party and Bush Dems.
At least Edwards is forcing the media to come to NOLA.

by nogo war 2008-01-30 05:38AM | 0 recs
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You're violating the MyDD guidelines with your constant bashing of Democrats. Please take a little more care to express your frustration in a more productive way.

Users who are excessively bashing the Democratic Party, or being Republican trolls, will be banned.

by Denny Crane 2008-01-30 05:38AM | 0 recs
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by nogo war 2008-01-30 05:40AM | 0 recs
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The good news, is we still have him to help us win in November, to serve in the next administration, and to continue to promote anti-poverty.

We all seem to feel universal regard for John Edwards and the campaign he's run, as well as a twinge of regret he's dropping out. Have to say, it's nice that we're all on the same page, for once. Maybe after the convention, we'll belt a few rounds of Kumbaya.

by wolff109 2008-01-30 05:41AM | 0 recs
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Anyone know if his decision to drop out now (as opposed to after Super Tuesday) has anything to do with the health of his wife?

I'm still baffled: Why now, why not wait?

by wolff109 2008-01-30 05:44AM | 0 recs

He had to beat 15% in states like Florida to have any impact delegate-wise. Running for President is a huge commitment and he was doing it to promote real change. He did not run a vanity campaign, his influence would not increase going forward, and I don't think he has any interest in becoming a gadfly like Kucinich or Gravel.

by souvarine 2008-01-30 06:10AM | 0 recs
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Here is my thought.
Edwards endorses Obama, then he will be VP choice, or AG!

If Clinton wins-we can expect Bill to be Sec. of State!

by lja 2008-01-30 05:44AM | 0 recs
John Edwards in this primary

was inspiring and gave progressives direction.  He will continue to influence how this country moves forward, but I for one will miss his presence in the race.  He made a big difference.

by Satya 2008-01-30 05:44AM | 0 recs
Georgia Jefferson-Jackson Dinner

The event is tonight, and John Edwards was scheduled to appear along with Hillary.  I wonder if he'll still come?  I was looking forward to seeing him.

by Denny Crane 2008-01-30 05:46AM | 0 recs
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Although I share your anger and frustration, I don't see Edwards quitting the party (and would indeed not want him to). Rather, as yitbos points out upthread, I see Edwards looking for opportunities outside politics and ending up like Al Gore, having a greater impact there where he is less apt to be hobbled by our feckless media and the corporate-driven political machine. Indeed, the nonprofit sector has become such an effective arena for so many leaders and people with vision--Al Gore, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Bono, George Lucas--that it may one day begin to challenge government authorities and the military-industrial complex on the direction of political decisions in this country.

by jeffbinnc 2008-01-30 05:51AM | 0 recs
by nogo war 2008-01-30 05:51AM | 0 recs
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The media coverage of his decision is just awful.  I heard at least 8 "analysts" this morning ask the question "Will his supporters be willing to vote for a black?" as if all his supporters were bigots.
I only saw one reporter take the time to break down from the exit polls his actual supporters.  He said they were from the "working class" wing of the Democratic party (the base) and not the young voters or the more affluent voters. As such he said their votes may go more towards Clinton.  He told an anecdotal story about attending a Iowa caucus where the Edwards supporters ran, not walked, over to the Clinton camp when he was deemed not viable.
Regardless, the meme will remain about race.
by wasabi 2008-01-30 05:52AM | 0 recs
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I am proud of John Edwards for bringing the message that he did and making sure this race was not simply a battle between Clinton and Edwards.  I hope he either runs for the Senate again or gets a higher up cabinet position.

by ejintx 2008-01-30 05:55AM | 0 recs
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I am proud of John Edwards for bringing the message that he did and making sure this race was not simply a battle between Clinton and Obama.  I hope he either runs for the Senate again or gets a higher up cabinet position.

by ejintx 2008-01-30 05:55AM | 0 recs
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I once said here that I thought Joe Trippi would jump ship for MSNBC or CNN at the first sign of trouble.  Not only was I wrong, but it was wrong to say and for that I apologize.

John Edwards has always been a difficult candidate not to support because his heart is in the right place and his intentions always good.  I'm glad that I can finally wholeheartedly support him for Attorney General no matter who the nominee is.  

by Piuma 2008-01-30 06:01AM | 0 recs
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What the nation may see is many of the legitimate Democrats dropping out - just like John Edwards - in this race for the 2008 election.

The Democratic Party is hosting nothing less than a "Guess who's coming to dinner" election preying upon the popularity of white guilt and the exceptional oratory skills of a white dressed in black skin who legitimizes himself by the degree of assimilation he can accomplish to win the favor of white voters.

As racial fraud, nothing could be more evident.

This isn't progress, and it isn't change that can be anything but the politics of sink or swim.

Discounting women as the Democratic Party has begun to do, it is so captured by its own failure to deal with legitimate racial parity in its own party, that it offers the White House as a concession. In the struggle to emerge from the symbolism of separate but equal bathrooms of the south barely 30 years ago, it has adopted extremism as its flag, by putting women in that vulnerable position of being separate but equal and integrating race by preference.

It is a fraud upon blacks, and an insult to whites as well as women.

The outcome shows a Democratic Party more than divided; it shows a Democratic Party with an identity crisis more like the one which occurred in 1840 over race and states rights. It has dug its own grave by being the ostriche it is, and then making a leap forward that looks like Evil Knieval over the Grand Canyon.

Where consistent forward momentum and progress has always been the root of faith by its members, it has created the riot, the take over by force of radicalism that fails to legitimize credibility of the rational. Rather than small steps toward progress, it perpetuates and fuels the radical elements by which faith disappates, rather than increases, an old problem in the party apparently and its basis for being an opposing party, not a leadership party.

Offered the banner of leadership, it has chosen instead to return to its roots, a party unable to accept the responsibility of leadership that arises from growing strength inside.

In leaving women behind, it shows an unfathomable bias toward women and the real reason for the separation of the East Wing and the West Wing. Just as businesses maintained the Executive Washroom for men only, it now maintains the White House Oval Office washroom as for men only. Integration is alive at the White House; Gender Empowerment is dead. That it should happen twice to the same woman - Hillary - through her efforts to reform health care in the 1990's, it now happens to her as candidate for President as utter defiance, and unspeakable irony, a burden for all women to attempt to justify without resentment.

The Democratic Party jumped in the philosophical ditch as many hoped it would not - to leave millions in the uncertainty of not having a party upon whom to depend who believes in radicalism not leadership marked by its hypnotic spectacle as a legitimate calling card.

What a disgrace!

by pbr90 2008-01-30 06:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Dems owe Hillary

Wow!  Way to turn off lots of reasonable people by saying if you don't support a qualified female candidate, you are sexist.  There are LOTS of reasons to not support Hillary, such as you don't know what she'll stand up for when the chips are down.

by filby 2008-01-30 06:55AM | 0 recs
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Edwards supporter who is definitely voting for Obama next Tuesday. Honestly, I think Edwards move to drop out will significantly help Obama in purple/blue states that are part of Super Tuesday next week.

There is no doubt Obama will win Connecticut because of this move by Edwards. The momentum from Obama's S.C. win will put him in the driver's seat on Super-Tuesday.

by Djneedle83 2008-01-30 06:13AM | 0 recs
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Some are saying that his decision is do to Elizabeth's health. I wonder if she suffered some type of set back?  I hope not. She's a good woman.

by lonnette33 2008-01-30 06:15AM | 0 recs
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That's what worries me.  I hope it's not the case.

by susanhu 2008-01-30 06:41AM | 0 recs
Hillary is going to win

 I am an Edwards supporter and his dropping out saddens me deeply. I think with Edwards dropping out it will benefit Hillary more than Obama. Sure, the blogsphere supporters might go to Obama but the majority of his supporters (unions, working class ) will go to Hillary in the primary. If I had to guess, I would estimate that 80% of his supporters will go to Hillary and 20% will go to Obama. Hillary will lose to McCain in the general election so perhaps Edwards can run again in 2012. Heck, it took Reagan 3 times to win the nomination and presidency. The democrats blew it again though. Poll after poll after poll showed Edwards as the most electable and Hillary the least electable. I hate to think what this country will become after 4 years of President McCain. Maybe just maybe in 2012 the democrats will wise up and not let the MSM pick our candidate for us. I wish us democrats was smarter than that but I guess we are not.

by harmony94 2008-01-30 06:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary is going to win

While I agree with you regarding Edwards, it seems Obama does the worst against McCain. Clinton might be able to bring WV and AR back into the Democratic column at least.

by Airb330 2008-01-30 06:33AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out
Here's one Edwards supporter who will not be voting for Obama.
The speculation as to who will get John's supporters is just that at this point.
by kmblue 2008-01-30 06:30AM | 0 recs
Edwards supporter moving to Clinton

I am a long-time supporter of the positions articulated and framing used by John Edwards.  He first caught my eye during the impeachment imbroglio; "this guy is a hell of a litigator".  I was a strong supporter in '04 and, obviously again this year.  The reasons he earned my support:

1) Policy: Indexed high minimum wage, real universal health care, restoration of union rights, no nukes.  Corporate ideology is the enemy of humanity and the arch-nemesis of progressivism.  We need a two-sided class war in this country.

2) Bully pulpit: I believe he would have raised national consciousness and attention to the realities of economic inequality, for me the most important set of issues bar none in a way none of his opponents (save DK) seem willing to do.  Apart from specific policies, I imagined conferences on the West Lawn explaining to the people the need for strong unions.

3) Legal experience: I could not more strongly disagree with the many, many, many, so-called Democrats who launched charges of "ambulance chaser", "plaintiffs attorney", as if standing up to corporations who abuse people is a bad thing.  Not to mention such people seem oblivious to the fact ATLA members are, behind unions, the biggest contributors to the party.  You people - and you know who you are, and oddly most were Clinton supporters who apparently have no issue with Clinton's corporate lawyering and joining the Wal-Mart board - should consider taking your GOPer talking points and CoC ideology someplace where your regressive views find some resonance.  Sorry.  Had to get that off my chest.

But supporters with whom I disagree can not be held against the candidate.

Reasons I am moving to Clinton:

1) Obama is substantially a question mark but with Clinton I know what I am getting, both good and bad.  It is not merely a lack of experience or history but also the vacuous nature of so much of his message.

2) Not intending to start up another fight, but the whole "transformational" notion and using moderate/conservative rhetorical appeals to slip progressivism through the back door seems to me unwise and unrealistic.  I am definitely a "politics of contrast" voter, principally because that is the only way to advance progressivism over the long haul, and not merely capture a single election...but,

3) I do not think Obama can win the presidency against McCain.

4) While in my view Clinton has some significant negatives, her positives are very impressive.  She is smart as hell, hard working, and she gets shit done, focusing in the domestic arena on those who, as a rule, most need the help.

5) I grew up in a single-mom household and went with my mom to many, many consciousness-raising groups in the 1970s because she could not afford a baby sitter.  As a young boy I was enlisted as a foot soldier in 2nd wave feminism in my hometown of Eugene.  Apologies to the Dead, my experience is that the women are smarter.

6) I cannot abide support for nuclear power.  Essentially a deal-breaker for me.

I firmly believe that John Edwards would make one of the best Attorney Generals in the history of the country and I hope that he is tapped for that position by the next president of the United States, assuming that is a position in which he is interested.

by Trond Jacobsen 2008-01-30 06:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards supporter moving to Clinton

Just a two of things, using your numbering.  I won't deal with all of them, but:

1.  All you need to do is spend a day on his website, or even better go read his Audacity of Hope book and you will see there is nothing vacuous about the message.  It is all laid out very clearly if you want to invest the time to read.  

6.  Obama's stand on nuclear power has been misrepresented to a large degree.  His stance is that global climate change is a true crisis and it would be irresponsible for us to dismiss any potential solution out of hand.  We do not have the time to risk putting our eggs in a limited amount of baskets, gambling on one solution over another.  That is why he, more so than any other candidate, is for a tremendous increase in government-financed research in that area and his cap-and-trade plan is in part to spur competitive research in the private sector.  But he is not for implementing any energy solution unless it satisfies 3 conditions:

It is safe.
It is economically feasible.
It is environmentally responsible.

He has said many times that at this point nuclear power does not satisfy any of those three conditions.  But he looks at this as problems to be solved instead of giving up and say "impossible".

The same is true of Coal to Liquid which has been misrepresented often.  His adherence to these 3 principled requirements lead to his rejection of Bush's Clear Skies Initiative which surprised half his state and made them feel betrayed.  His support for CTL is only if it can successfully solve the carbon capture and sequestration, which is why he moved funds allocated for the Coal Industry from building plants to research.  

by Piuma 2008-01-30 07:26AM | 0 recs
Barack Obama with the Corporate Heads of Exelon

[A]s Congress considers policies to address air quality and the deleterious effects of carbon emissions on the global ecosystem, it is reasonable - and realistic - for nuclear power to remain on the table for consideration.

by bowiegeek 2008-01-30 08:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama with the Corporate Heads of Exelo

And what is wrong about that statement?  Are you really so sure about our ability to reverse climate change by using our existing technologies that you are willing to take any possible solution off the table?  I'm not.  

by Piuma 2008-01-30 09:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama with the Corporate Heads of Exelo

Nuclear is not a possible solution. Continuing to expand the amount of harmful nuclear waste that we're producing annually is not that good for the environment considering the many thousands of years it takes for the material to become nonradioactive.

by bowiegeek 2008-01-30 09:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama with the Corporate Heads of Exelo

If you're going to discuss this than please drop the "continuing to expand" part since that is not what is being advocated or supported.  You present the problem.  Are you so sure we cannot solve that problem?  Are you so sure we can not lick fusion energy?  Are you willing to gamble to the extent of stopping research on solving the nuclear energy problems?  And lastly are you willing to stand passively by on the sidelines while other less responsible governments in the world place us all in danger when if we could solve the problems it would be solving both a national and global problem?

by Piuma 2008-01-30 09:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama with the Corporate Heads of Exelo

The needed research is ongoing in the private sector. Any breakthrough will come from the private sector. The federal government need not have any part in increasing funding toward it. I reject the notion that the US government needs its fingers in an industry which, at the moment, is unnecessary and unfeasible.

With respect to nuclear non-proliferation, of course we should be active. That has nothing to do with being responsible at home and not considering an expanded federal investment in nuclear energy. We don't even know what to do with the waste we've already generated.

by bowiegeek 2008-01-30 09:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama with the Corporate Heads of Exelo

You're touching on an area where we begin to see the interconnectedness of issues, something which has impressed me about Obama.  The reason for government supported research for what would prove to be a boon to private industry involves not just our pressing environmental need, but also for education and job issues.  We need to bolster our science and engineering areas in education and start turning out home-grown people in this area.  To fund research at our major universities even if it doesn't produce the solutions we need quickly, it will help train more of our youth for hi-tech jobs, helping to stem the outflow of jobs overseas and the inflow of H-visa employees.  It is a win-win-and possible huge win if in fact public research produces the results the private sector fails in.  As is often the case.  The hybrid engine was developed through EPA funded grants, not by Toyota or Ford.

by Piuma 2008-01-30 10:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama with the Corporate Heads of Exelo

Of course, there's no problem with funding educational institutions. Hillary has proposed a host of activities including returning the EPA to its former glory and fully funding the NAS. Still, that doesn't mean giving money to Exelon or introducing mandates that directly benefit Exelon. Federal funds need not go directly toward nuclear industry. If the universities and government research agencies wish to pursue it, that's their judgment to make.

by bowiegeek 2008-01-30 10:15AM | 0 recs

Would have made a great choice for Gore's VP in 2000.  I think that was an error of Gore in picking in Lieberman first because the gov. of Connecticut at that time was a Republican and Lieberman would have been replaced by a Republican but second in picking Edwards, Gore would have taken a page out of Clinton's play book in picking another Southern pol for a running mate....  (Also, the gov. of NC was a Dem in 2000.)

But Gore wanted to "differentiate" himself from Clinton, and that's why we have had to put up with W all these years!

by Zeitgeist9000 2008-01-30 07:00AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

My disenfranchisment is now complete.  Now I'm stuck with two candidates where instead of voting for one of them, I'm chosing the lesser of two evils.  With Hillary's arms wrapped around Lieberman and Obama wondering just how good Reagan was I'm now stuck trying to figure out which one balances out for the better.

Hillary sure isn't a progressive by any stretch of the imagination.  As for Obama, he'd cut off a left arm before joining the word "progressive" or "liberal" with his name.

What to do.....


Truman's Conscience

by DuvalDem 2008-01-30 07:23AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

I'm an Obama supporter but I've always felt a natural alliance between Obama and Edwards due to the central nature of reforming the influence of Lobbyists and PACs to John's campaign.  That and his regret for his War vote and Obama's judgement before the invasion.  As to your worry about his progressive or liberal associations, I would ask you to go to YouTube and watch his speeches at the Take Back America convention.  

by Piuma 2008-01-30 07:32AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

I love the Obama/Clinton battle. Most Edwards supporters I know hate Hillary and are going to be voting for Obama. Bring it on Hillary Clinton.

Obama vs. Mccain 2008

by Djneedle83 2008-01-30 07:26AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

I think it might also be that the deal he and Elizabeth made was to focus on his campaign even though she was terminally ill- he can no longer win and perhaps he wants to put the focus on Elizabeth now.  Sticking around to try to play kingmaker (which some say is a longshot, anyway)- well that's really not a good enough reason to stay in when your wife is dying.

by reasonwarrior 2008-01-30 07:37AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

Well, for what it's worth, it sounds like a Clinton endorsement is not in the cards. Edwards advisor (Saunders) was on MSNBC just now basically tearing into the Clintons over NAFTA, says he will do "everything in his power" not to ensure Edwards does not endorse Clinton.

by animated 2008-01-30 07:53AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards Dropping Out

Aw damn.   Not that it didn't play out as I thought it would well over a year ago.   Hillary as the Establishment candidate, Obama as the rock star anti-Establishment candidate, and Edwards as the good, serious candidate who simply couldn't get enough oxygen in terms of votes and dollars between the two.

I suppose every candidate has both his or her classy supporters and pricks.  I've given a shout out before but I want to repeat it, to DesMoinesDem, who has represented her candidate so spectacularly on this site with great amounts of detail, an even keeled temperament, and passion without being over the top.

by InigoMontoya 2008-01-30 08:11AM | 0 recs


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