Windsor Heights Precinct 2

We are inside precinct Windsor Heights Precinct 2 for live blogging (or at least till the power runs out). It's packed, there were 175 persons here last year, but way over 200, gotta be close to 300 are inside the hall right now. It's located Clive, just west of Des Moines, and we are at the elementary school. The Republicans are in the auditorium, Democrats in the meeting room.

There are 6 delegates up for the taking here.

293 came into the room:

Clinton 63
Obama 86
Edwards 83
Biden 24
Richardson 28
Uncommitted 2
Dodd 9
Kucinich 1

44 needed for viability.

Now they are bargaining (we are also video taping this). But the totals don't add up, so there's some confusion happening (while at the same time bartering has begun).

Update [2008-1-3 20:55:7 by Jerome Armstrong]:Looks like they are doing some recounting.

OK, here are the numbers after those who were not viable head into their second choices (or go home):

Obama 104
Edwards 115
Clinton 74

Each of them got 2 delegates. Clinton was at 1.47 delegates (the closest to rounding up), and the Edwards people tried to come over to the Obama camp and get 7 of them to move to Edwards (which would have bumped Edwards up to 3 and left Clinton with 1), but none of the Obama people would budge (this is great on video).

What an experience. You may not like the fact that only Iowa gets to have this sort of participatory democracy, but if this ever gets taken away from Iowa, we will lose something that's special.

Update [2008-1-3 20:55:7 by Jerome Armstrong]: Now each of the three camps that were viable are choosing two persons to be delegates for the precinct, and then a move (met with a loud aye) is motioned and approved to ratify the delegates.

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Re: Windsor Heights Precinct 2

This is what Ambinder said:


by david mizner 2008-01-03 03:22PM | 0 recs
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ambinder hasn't been right all year, why would he start now?

by DrFrankLives 2008-01-03 03:37PM | 0 recs
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I guess Jerome can tell us whether this is true or not.

by Steve M 2008-01-03 03:37PM | 0 recs
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Turn on CSPAN

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 03:37PM | 0 recs
This is Ben Smith-SAME CAUCUS?????

Clive caucus packed

I'll be blogging a bit for the next couple of hours from Clive Elementary School in a close western suburb of Des Moines and the home precinct of desmoinesdem.

The cafeteria is packed and standing room only, with veterans of the process estimating that it's between 20% and 50% higher than last cycle.

I've been asking about the reported Obama-Richardson deal, but Richardson precinct captain Bill Straite said it was news to him.

"I've heard those rumors," he said. "Those aren't my instructions."

Then he gestured at the Richardson supporters, a motley group standing in the back of the packed cafeteria.

"You think I could tell these people what to do?" he asked.

(That doesn't mean there's no deal anywhere. Just the view from here.)

UPDATE: Crowd size perceptions can deceive. The actual numbers: 293 this year, 255 four years ago.

by aiko 2008-01-03 03:29PM | 0 recs
yes, they were both in my caucus

It's in Windsor Heights, although the school is called Clive Elementary.

by desmoinesdem 2008-01-03 09:16PM | 0 recs
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This silly story should stop being the top story!
There are results -real results giving a different story. Please.
by inexile 2008-01-03 03:30PM | 0 recs
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Obama - 2
Edwards- 2
Clinton- 1

Obama and Edwards are fighting for the sixth delegate!

by mboehm 2008-01-03 03:50PM | 0 recs
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Nothing more? Nothing about Obama?

by pcjnyc 2008-01-03 05:35PM | 0 recs


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