Actual Results Thread

Because these actually matter...

SENATOR BARACK OBAMA : 37.53%
SENATOR JOHN EDWARDS : 29.88%
SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON : 29.41%
GOVERNOR BILL RICHARDSON : 2.09%
SENATOR JOE BIDEN : 0.93%
UNCOMMITTED : 0.14%
SENATOR CHRIS DODD : 0.02%
PRECINCTS REPORTING: 1717 OF 1781 (96.4 percent)
(PERCENTAGES ARE STATE DELEGATE EQUIVALENTS.)

Tags: 2008, Democratic primaries, Democrats, Iowa, Iowa Caucuses, results (all tags)

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178 Comments

Re: Actual Results Thread

I feel sick.

by david mizner 2008-01-03 03:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread
Senator John Edwards : 37.74%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 30.71%
Senator Barack Obama : 27.30%
Governor Bill Richardson : 2.77%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.80%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.68%
Precincts Reporting: 45 of 1781
(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)
by kevin22262 2008-01-03 03:25PM | 0 recs
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It sure would be nice if the Dem Party site said where the returns are coming from.

16 of 1781 show Edwards 38; Clinton 35; Obama 24.  Keep in mind that this is 1% reporting.  

These have got to be smaller precincts.  

by hilltopper 2008-01-03 03:20PM | 0 recs
yes...

the process is much faster for precincts where only one delegate gets chosen.  that we are seeing results this fast means that other precincts got to work; they didn't have a lot of chatter or other candidates show up...

by bored now 2008-01-03 03:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread
i bet bunches of republicans wish they could just load their party's iowa caucus site...
i was curious...tried various times, incomplete.
but iowa dem site is honkin' hot.
boom shalaklak boom.
by greenbird 2008-01-03 04:09PM | 0 recs
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It's now up to 39 percent Edwards, 34 percent Clinton and still under 30 for Obama. I think it's from small rural precincts. Good news for Edwards that he is holding strong in those areas, but we will see.  

by alexmhogan 2008-01-03 03:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread
Senator John Edwards : 38.14%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 37.29%
Senator Barack Obama : 23.31%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.25%
Precincts Reporting: 21 of 1781
by agpc 2008-01-03 03:20PM | 0 recs
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Why arer we still seeing 7 of 1781?

13 of shows:
Edwards: 39.2%
Clinton: 32.4%
Obama: 26.1%
Richardson: 2.2%

by inexile 2008-01-03 03:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread
Senator John Edwards : 37.87%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 34.61%
Senator Barack Obama : 25.37%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.08%
Senator Joe Biden : 1.08%
Precincts Reporting: 24 of 1781
(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)
by bored now 2008-01-03 03:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread
Senator John Edwards : 37.87%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 34.61%
Senator Barack Obama : 25.37%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.08%
Senator Joe Biden : 1.08%
Precincts Reporting: 24 of 1781
by agpc 2008-01-03 03:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

Yikes!

by Shaun Appleby 2008-01-03 03:24PM | 0 recs
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Edwards kicking ass in the early results.

by crackityjones 2008-01-03 03:25PM | 0 recs
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Senator John Edwards : 37.04%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 31.44%
Senator Barack Obama : 28.12%
Governor Bill Richardson : 2.21%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.64%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.55%
Precincts Reporting: 53 of 1781
(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)
by bored now 2008-01-03 03:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

58 precincts

Edwards: 37%
Hillary: 32%
Obama: 27%

by Progressive America 2008-01-03 03:27PM | 0 recs
this is the best iteration

of a Reporting page I've seen for sheer entertainment value.

I like the quick turnover...

but, yeah, more info would be nice.

Thanks Jonathan

by kid oakland 2008-01-03 03:32PM | 0 recs
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All of this results are coming early and will favor Edwards bc rural areas are smaller and are being reported much earlier. Dems Voters favor change over experience by 2 to 1. Obama and Hillary battling for first place according to entrance poll.

by Jr1886 2008-01-03 03:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

Actually, you can see individual precinct results by county, it looks like. Not that it helps if, like me, you have no idea where any of these counties are.

by OrangeFur 2008-01-03 03:35PM | 0 recs
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looks like the bigger counties (Polk in particular), haven't registered anything yet....

this gonna be barn burner

by Jim Engler 2008-01-03 03:36PM | 0 recs
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scratch that, very few...and all going to Obama or Clinton so far....really really early mind you

by Jim Engler 2008-01-03 03:37PM | 0 recs
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So far, looks like a 3-way tie...

by OrangeFur 2008-01-03 03:36PM | 0 recs
early = rural

I mean, lots of Iowa is rural, but the quick-reporting districts must be particularly lightly populated.

by alydar 2008-01-03 03:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

Also, didn't desmoinesdem (DMD) say that some precincts will have a lot more delegates than others?

I assume these would be the ones in the bigger counties?

by OrangeFur 2008-01-03 03:38PM | 0 recs
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It's closer, and it keeps getting closer.

by Namtrix 2008-01-03 03:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

*It's close, and it keeps getting closer.

by Namtrix 2008-01-03 03:39PM | 0 recs
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10% precints in

Senator John Edwards : 33.38%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 32.40%
Senator Barack Obama : 30.76%
Governor Bill Richardson : 2.03%
Senator Joe Biden : 1.16%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.15%
Uncommitted : 0.12%
Precincts Reporting: 191 of 1781

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 03:38PM | 0 recs
Obama has to like the results

I would guess ... purely guess ... that he'd do better later in the larger reporing districting.

Lincoln high is going to start their 3rd count in 15 minutes.

Obama seems ahead.  Clinton second.  Edwards third.

Kucinich, Biden, Dodd, Richardson were not viable in this big room of 375.

by dpANDREWS 2008-01-03 03:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama has to like the results

I thought richardson reached viability there...

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 03:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama has to like the results

Guess I was wrong... they said he was at 47 then dropped to 20's.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 03:46PM | 0 recs
Obama rougly around 40%

In this cafeteria.

by dpANDREWS 2008-01-03 03:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

From OpenLeft:

Matt just called in from a large urban precinct in Des Moines. He said turnout was huge, and Obama ran away with it. Clinton was only viable by one vote in the caucus he attended. Maatt said that huge Obama wins are happening in many Des Moines precincts.

by Piuma 2008-01-03 03:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

This page automatically updates:
http://www.iowacaucusresults.com/

Not really exciting but whatever

by bsavage 2008-01-03 03:40PM | 0 recs
of course...

... the Iowa GOP site is terribly not user-friendly in terms of simply displaying results.  

by alydar 2008-01-03 03:40PM | 0 recs
Re: of course...

link?

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 03:43PM | 0 recs
Re: of course...

from politicalwire.com:
http://www.iowagop.net/index.asp

I can't find the actual results...

by alydar 2008-01-03 03:46PM | 0 recs
Try

Here there is a drop down box at the bottom of the page that breaks it down by county too.

by NvDem 2008-01-03 04:09PM | 0 recs
Whoops.... for the Dems though

by NvDem 2008-01-03 04:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread
enator John Edwards : 33.90%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 32.00%
Senator Barack Obama : 31.28%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.75%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.89%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.10%
Uncommitted : 0.08%
Precincts Reporting: 258 of 1781
(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)
by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 03:42PM | 0 recs
how it works

I read, somewhere, that the number of delgates a given precinct receives is based on turnout at the previous caucus, not on how many people show up this year.  Could someone confirm or deny that?  If true, then it may hurt someone who generated many new caucus-goers.

by alydar 2008-01-03 03:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

Matt Stoller's precinct: (from Open Left)

Mixed crowd, mostly middle aged

Viability is 66

Edwards - 81
Obama- 168
Biden 45
Richardson 54
Clinton - 67
Kucinich - 12
Dodd - 11

by Piuma 2008-01-03 03:45PM | 0 recs
Wow

Clinton made viability by one vote.

by david mizner 2008-01-03 03:53PM | 0 recs
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My wife disagrees, but this looks like fun.  I thinks its archaic, but wow, I think it looks like fun as well.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 03:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

57% of Obama-voters were age 17 - 28, according to entrance poll.  Obvoiusly, the entrance polls can't be accurate in terms of figuring how many people across the state will end up voting for a candidate, but the demographics within a particular candidate could be informative.  I'll try to find a link for all this (jus saw it on MSNBC)

by alydar 2008-01-03 03:48PM | 0 recs
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If Obama wins and he DID find a way to get younger voters out, that is AWESOME!!!.  

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 03:55PM | 0 recs
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Anyone having luck getting to the GOP page? I'm having trouble. Another news site showed Huckabee in front with only 2% reporting.

by OrangeFur 2008-01-03 03:49PM | 0 recs
soooo close

with ~20% reported, top three are within 1.3% of each other.  wow.

by alydar 2008-01-03 03:51PM | 0 recs
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over 25% precints in

Senator John Edwards : 32.62%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 32.30%
Senator Barack Obama : 32.30%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.89%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.75%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.11%
Uncommitted : 0.04%
Precincts Reporting: 461 of 1781

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 03:51PM | 0 recs
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What's it like on the GOP side? The iowa gop website is down.

by apolitik 2008-01-03 03:52PM | 0 recs
I am a Clinton supporter

She may win or lose I don't know.

But watching this on C-Span I think this is the dumbest system I have ever seen.

It would be like all of us ditching cell phones in favor of the pony express.

by dpANDREWS 2008-01-03 03:52PM | 0 recs
Re: I am a Clinton supporter

I agree its dumb, but it also looks like fun as well... like Bungee jumping.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 03:55PM | 0 recs
results link

CNN just put up a nice tote board, with both parties on one page:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primari es/results/state/#IA

by alydar 2008-01-03 03:52PM | 0 recs
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Huckabee with a big lead. Interesting.

Democrats couldn't be any closer.

by OrangeFur 2008-01-03 03:55PM | 0 recs
Repubs
with 15% in:
Huckabee 36%
Romney 23%
Thompson 15%
McCain 12%
Paul 11%
by alydar 2008-01-03 03:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread
Senator Barack Obama : 32.70%
Senator John Edwards : 32.38%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 32.02%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.79%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.96%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.09%
Uncommitted : 0.06%
Precincts Reporting: 530 of 1781
(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)
by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 03:56PM | 0 recs
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Almost an exact 3-way tie so far. Damn.

by wayward 2008-01-03 03:57PM | 0 recs
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Looks like they're all going on to NH like was reported.

by Ga6thDem 2008-01-03 03:58PM | 0 recs
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CNN projects Huckabee win in Iowa.

by RJEvans 2008-01-03 03:57PM | 0 recs
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That seems a bit premmature to me... remember, Republican 15% is different from Democrat 15%, because the Repubs just go by total votes (I think...) so if only small precincts have reported, it will skew the percentages.

by alydar 2008-01-03 03:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

CNN just called the Republican side for Huckabee.

by Namtrix 2008-01-03 03:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

To me, McCain is the only real threat in the general election.  I really want Edwards to win because his message resonates with me and I believe it would resonate with the American people if given a chance.  Huckabee has too much baggage which has not yet been revealed on a widespread basis, so he would be an ideal opponent from my point of view.

by agpc 2008-01-03 03:58PM | 0 recs
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Wow... Obama did well at the Precinct on Cspan

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 03:58PM | 0 recs
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Ok Rudy is done right?  

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 03:59PM | 0 recs
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this is unbelievable...

MSNBC literally had one delegate separating obama from clinton and edwards

by Jim Engler 2008-01-03 03:59PM | 0 recs
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A hunch is that the networks want us to keep watching with the dem results.

by devoted1 2008-01-03 04:02PM | 0 recs
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do you think any would dare call it at this pt?

by Jim Engler 2008-01-03 04:04PM | 0 recs
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40% in

Senator Barack Obama : 33.30%
Senator John Edwards : 32.12%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 31.80%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.72%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.95%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.06%
Uncommitted : 0.04%
Precincts Reporting: 717 of 1781

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:03PM | 0 recs
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if Paul keeps this lead over Giuliani, does he still get banned from the FoxNews debate?

by alydar 2008-01-03 04:03PM | 0 recs
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At the bottom, it lets you see the individual precincts.

by Sean Fitzpatrick 2008-01-03 04:03PM | 0 recs
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barack's lead is increasing...

by alydar 2008-01-03 04:07PM | 0 recs
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It's way too early and the race is still tight as hell, but Obama's numbers have been moving in the right direction all night.  He was a distant third in the begining.

by Namtrix 2008-01-03 04:09PM | 0 recs
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Looks like the bigger precincts are still out, as expected. CNN's count has about 800 state delegates tallied, compared with 2500 total (according to DMD). So less than a third of delegates are counted, even if almost 50% of precincts are.

by OrangeFur 2008-01-03 04:07PM | 0 recs
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This is a very important point.  This should mean Obama's lead is going to grow!

by Andy Katz 2008-01-03 04:11PM | 0 recs
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Barack is pulling away now...  Whew.  Talk about a marathon runner waiting for the last minute to make his move.  Nail biting.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-01-03 04:08PM | 0 recs
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Fired Up!!!!! I thin Obam gona pulll this thing off. Edwards gonna have to drop out if he come out 3rd

by Jr1886 2008-01-03 04:13PM | 0 recs
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So far he's fending Hillary off for 2nd and good on 'im.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-01-03 04:24PM | 0 recs
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50% precints in

Senator Barack Obama : 33.88%
Senator John Edwards : 31.84%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 31.60%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.68%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.93%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.05%
Uncommitted : 0.03%
Precincts Reporting: 889 of 1781

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:08PM | 0 recs
DMR POLL

It is beginning to look like the DMR poll is going to be almost exactly right.  They really know their state very well.

by Andy Katz 2008-01-03 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: DMR POLL

Agreee!!DMR poll is the best

by Jr1886 2008-01-03 04:13PM | 0 recs
Re: DMR POLL

They may have gotten the order right but from what I've read they were way off on the predictions for independents turning out. About 1/2 the number of independents have turned out that the poll predicted.

by Ga6thDem 2008-01-03 04:16PM | 0 recs
Re: DMR POLL

The 7% margin that they predicted will be very close to the actual results as well.  A little less perhapes but over 5%.  

by Andy Katz 2008-01-03 04:25PM | 0 recs
I really think

It's a chicken-or-the-egg question.

by Shawn 2008-01-03 04:19PM | 0 recs
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60% in

Senator Barack Obama : 34.69%
Senator John Edwards : 31.52%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 31.00%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.69%
Senator Joe Biden : 1.03%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.04%
Uncommitted : 0.03%
Precincts Reporting: 1057 of 1781

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:15PM | 0 recs
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giuliani just surged in total votes and is now in double digits, percentage-wise.  damn, i want him to be embarrased

by alydar 2008-01-03 04:16PM | 0 recs
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Yeah, me too.  I'm hoping Ron Paul pulls ahead of him.

by Namtrix 2008-01-03 04:17PM | 0 recs
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3% separating the top 3

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:16PM | 0 recs
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56% reporting Hillary is in 3rd. Still a three way race

by Jr1886 2008-01-03 04:16PM | 0 recs
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Having observed Hillary during this campaign, knockin' heads as she does, I think she would make a sterling Senate Majority Leader.  So far Obama is 39% in Polk.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-01-03 04:19PM | 0 recs
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I agree.

Clinton for Senate Majority Leader '09!

by Namtrix 2008-01-03 04:24PM | 0 recs
lol

this was one very close win for Obama where a large percentage of his voters were not democrats.  This won't continue.  He's not going to win in the long run.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-03 04:40PM | 0 recs
dmr poll right?

how? If as msnbc is now reporting obama had a SLIGHT LEAD going into the caucus.  His lead right now is totally consistent with  the 2nd tier abandoning edwards and going with Obama.

Dmr had 7 points on the entrance.

by yellowdem1129 2008-01-03 04:20PM | 0 recs
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lol @ Shaun

Go Obama!

by animated 2008-01-03 04:20PM | 0 recs
by nogo war 2008-01-03 04:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

These results have not changed for awhile.  As it stands, it is non-determinative.  Everybody in top 3 goes on to fight another day.

by Bob H 2008-01-03 04:22PM | 0 recs
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yup, close, but Edwards  is finished I think.  He really needed to win this.

ps... Hoe Trippi is so fucking obnoxious he barely talked about Edwards.  All he could crow about was that Clinton didn't win.  The man is obsessed with Hillary Hate.  I could barely stand him when he worked for Dean, whom I adore.  Now I really have come to despise him.  I think a lot of Edwards more skanky behavior on the campaign trail is due to Trippi's advice.  Sincerely he is a complete creep.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-03 04:46PM | 0 recs
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70% in

Senator Barack Obama : 34.96%
Senator John Edwards : 31.26%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 30.96%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.72%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.95%
Uncommitted : 0.12%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.03%
Precincts Reporting: 1230 of 1781
(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:23PM | 0 recs
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exactly 4% between the top 3

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

CNN's home page has stopped posting results for any Dem candidate other than Obama but they haven't declared Obama the victor. What's up with that?

by jeffbinnc 2008-01-03 04:24PM | 0 recs
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If I'm an Obama supporter I really want to push Hillary below 30%.

If all three candidates finish above 30%, a win is still a win, but I think we're looking at a minor shakeup of the narrative rather than a major one.

Either way, great performance by Obama if he holds this lead.

by Steve M 2008-01-03 04:24PM | 0 recs
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I think we talked about this before Steve, "this" being the effect of an Obama win.  I think if the results stay the same, the narrative will be extremely pro-Obama.  He will certainly win NH if these results stand.

Moreover, if HRC remains in 3rd, that will also be a big story, regardless of how close she is to Edwards.

Edwards, my candidate, is probably finished :(.

by Andy Katz 2008-01-03 04:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

I dunno about that.  Obama should certainly win SC now.  Clinton has better numbers in NH and it should be a very interesting test.

I'm very excited about the strong turnout among the younger generation.  Whether Obama wins the nomination or not, these people could end up voting Democratic for 50 years.

by Steve M 2008-01-03 04:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

I agree with what you said.  I do not at all consider HRC out of the race, though I do think she will lose NH and probably Nev due to momentum alone.

Florida will now be the key test.  HRC has no choice but to go VERY negative.  I predict that we will see more surrogate veiled racist and anti-islamic statements like we saw from Shaheen and Kerrey.  Plus more strongly worded attacks on Obama for not beeing ready to be President.  If he can deal with these attacks, he will win.  If he cannot, he loses.

by Andy Katz 2008-01-03 04:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread
I think you Edwards people have been counting too much on momentum for Edwards out of IA.  This is not 2004, I don't see it necessarily playing out the same way. It may or may not.
BTW, I think Edwards has been had by Trippi.  He was more excited about anyone beating Clinton than he was to promote the good news that Edwards could advance and do well due to a close finish in the top three.  Is Trippi working for both Edwards and Obama?  Where is his loyalty?
by MollieBradford 2008-01-03 04:54PM | 0 recs
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Like I said with Steve, we will see very quickly who is right about the amount of momentum Obama's win will generate.  I think it will be enormous.

I absolutely agree about Trippi, though for a slightly different reason.  Every four years since 1988, Trippi has run the same campaign.  Only the name of the candidates have changed.  I think he directed Edwards away from his winning (and more upbeat) two Americaas campaign to the "let's kill all the lobbyists" theme.  This theme has never been a winner in American politics.

by Andy Katz 2008-01-03 05:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

Looks like Edwards and Hillary tied 6% behind Obama, that works for me.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-01-03 04:35PM | 0 recs
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ultimately he can't count on winning the nomination.  In a state where almost half of his support was from Independents he should have won a lot bigger.  He's going to have to win with all democrats after this and he can't do that.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-03 04:57PM | 0 recs
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I love primaries :)

by bruh21 2008-01-03 04:25PM | 0 recs
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MSNBC JUST CALLS IT FOR OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO

by Jim Engler 2008-01-03 04:25PM | 0 recs
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while it will still be close at the end of the day, if obama's lead of 4 or 5% holds up, and hilary and edwards split dead even, obama can legitimately claim victory

by alydar 2008-01-03 04:25PM | 0 recs
CBS calls it for obama...

by bored now 2008-01-03 04:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

HISTORY MADE.  BARACK.

by Piuma 2008-01-03 04:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

Trust the American people; I do.  Obama will win if he is nominated.

by Andy Katz 2008-01-03 04:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

I accept Obama warn tonight, but trust the American people? Please. They voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. Winning doesn't mean they know what they are doing. It just means you won a majority. Again I respect and accept that- but trust is a bit much to ask.

by bruh21 2008-01-03 04:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Results

I accept Obama warn tonight, but trust the American people? Please. They voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. Winning doesn't mean they know what they are doing. It just means you won a majority. Again I respect and accept that- but trust is a bit much to ask.

by bruh21 2008-01-03 04:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Bush 2000 & 2004

Bruh, didja have to bring up that stuff and ruin a lovely evening?

by Woody 2008-01-03 04:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Bush 2000 & 2004

Sorry- just didn't like the idea that majority equals right. I support Obama. He has been my second choice even after all his sheenigans over the last few weeks. But this majority makes right or trust line annoyed me. Regardless he did well tonight and I respect his effort.

by bruh21 2008-01-03 04:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

I think he can win a general. There are states where his background would be a disadvantage, but those aren't Democratic-friendly anyway.

by OrangeFur 2008-01-03 04:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Actual Results Thread

A black candidate winning IA is historic. Stop being a bad sport. As it is all three go on, and Clinton is probably weakened. What this means we shall see.

by bruh21 2008-01-03 04:30PM | 0 recs
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Oh please.  You people didn't even think he could win Iowa.

If Obama can in 95% white Iowa and defeat the Clinton machine, he can win in November.

by Namtrix 2008-01-03 04:32PM | 0 recs
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Well, keep in mind he won a 3-way race among Iowa Democrats. That's different than a two-way race among both parties. But I do think he can win.

by OrangeFur 2008-01-03 04:35PM | 0 recs
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Just because you have convinced yourself that he can't win doesn't make it so.

Look at his numbers with independents and the youth vote.  He is the one who can build the party and build a progressive majority.

Why do you have so little faith in Obama and in the American people?

by upper left 2008-01-03 04:47PM | 0 recs
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don't worry framecop.  Democrats are not going to nominate a guy because he is the choice of republicans and independents.  Obama's habit of attacking democrats from the right will come back to bite him in the ass.
Just a while ago Tweety was saying how Obama would start getting all the union support in NV.  The media is delusional.  Just keep hitting back at them.
The only one who has been making sense besides Olberman is Rachel Maddow.
by MollieBradford 2008-01-03 05:02PM | 0 recs
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As of now, I project Obama the winner

by Jr1886 2008-01-03 04:26PM | 0 recs
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Stop crying Framecop we gonna need your support

by Jr1886 2008-01-03 04:27PM | 0 recs
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! !!!!!!! Obama wins it

by Jr1886 2008-01-03 04:28PM | 0 recs
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CNN projects Barack Obama wins Iowa.

by RJEvans 2008-01-03 04:28PM | 0 recs
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75% reporting

Senator Barack Obama : 35.51%
Senator John Edwards : 30.87%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 30.66%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.82%
Senator Joe Biden : 1.00%
Uncommitted : 0.10%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.03%
Precincts Reporting: 1330 of 1781

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:29PM | 0 recs
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Now 5% between the first and third finishers, and rising.

by Andy Katz 2008-01-03 04:30PM | 0 recs
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Congrats to the Obama folks. On to New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina, and then I'm missing some, then Feb. 5. Yearrgh!

by OrangeFur 2008-01-03 04:32PM | 0 recs
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michigan and florida

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:33PM | 0 recs
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although what those states will mean, as their delegates don't count, will be very interesting...

by alydar 2008-01-03 04:37PM | 0 recs
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well it doesnt matter what they mean for delegate count, because apparently, the MSM still have too much power, and it will get reported.

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 07:17PM | 0 recs
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80% precints counted

Senator Barack Obama : 36.27%
Senator John Edwards : 30.48%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 30.25%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.93%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.94%
Uncommitted : 0.09%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.03%
Precincts Reporting: 1422 of 1781
(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:34PM | 0 recs
Repubs

CNN appears to have fixed their results, in that Giuliani is back to 4% (not sure exactly what their problem was, but someone there can't do math).  McCain very close behind Thompson for third

by alydar 2008-01-03 04:36PM | 0 recs
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WNYC just related that an Obama adviser unintensionally confirmed that there was a Richardson-Obama deal.  I wonder if this does not give Clinton's and Edwards' spinners the opportunity to taint the Obama margin as due solely to a shady backroom deal.

by Bob H 2008-01-03 04:38PM | 0 recs
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you mean a shady deal like the sort that's made EVERY single election in Iowa?  The same kind that propelled Edwards to second place in 2004?  

by HSTruman 2008-01-03 04:49PM | 0 recs
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Edwards is still in if he can hold second place.

by CLLGADEM 2008-01-03 04:39PM | 0 recs
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No, JE is ten points down to Obama in NH, behind in the national polls, low on money, and has no organization in the Feb 5th states.

Obama is now the official "alternative to HRC" candidate.

by upper left 2008-01-03 04:52PM | 0 recs
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They are all three still in. Jeez. This is only Iowa. Only one presidential candidate who ran opposed won Iowa and also went on to win the nomination. Jimmy Carter.

by americanincanada 2008-01-03 04:54PM | 0 recs
Obama >6%

and growing...

by alydar 2008-01-03 04:39PM | 0 recs
Yay

I have no problem with Obama. Three cheers for Mr. Barack Obama!!

by Trey Rentz 2008-01-03 04:40PM | 0 recs
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It will be very interesting to see how this affects the Unions in Las Vegas who have held off on their endorsements.

by Piuma 2008-01-03 04:39PM | 0 recs
Way to Go Obama
Shucks all that talk about deals, its just nuts.
:)
by Trey Rentz 2008-01-03 04:40PM | 0 recs
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I wanted Edwards to win, but, way more than that, I wanted Hillary to lose. And lose she has!

YIPPPEEEEEEE!!!!!!

by Oregonian 2008-01-03 04:46PM | 0 recs
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Delegate Count with a 37% win for Obama

DNC Convention Delegate Count
171 - HRC
70 - Obama
51 - Edwards

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:49PM | 0 recs
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Is that based on superdelegates that have already pledged themselves + IA results?

No offense meant - just asking.

by CLLGADEM 2008-01-03 04:55PM | 0 recs
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1) It's Barack.  Spell the man's name right.

2)  Where are you getting your numbers?  

3) Dean was ahead in Delegates after Iowa as well.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-03 04:57PM | 0 recs
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super delegates plus the 45 delegates that will split by % of tonights vote

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 07:15PM | 0 recs
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90% done

Senator Barack Obama : 36.94%
Senator John Edwards : 30.09%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 29.79%
Governor Bill Richardson : 2.13%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.93%
Uncommitted : 0.10%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.03%
Precincts Reporting: 1588 of 1781
(Percentages are State Delegate Equivalents.)

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:50PM | 0 recs
Great Victory

On to New Hampshire, and then hopefully to the nomination.

by Korha 2008-01-03 04:51PM | 0 recs
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If there's a Pulitzer Prize for polling Ann Seltzer deserves a nomination for it.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-01-03 04:51PM | 0 recs
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It doesn't sound like her turnout assumptions were anywhere close to correct, from what I'm hearing.

by Steve M 2008-01-03 04:52PM | 0 recs
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She still managed to peg the result.  Pretty much.  I kinda' like this Iowa caucus thing, I think we should keep it.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-01-03 05:01PM | 0 recs
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I would have been very excited if Obama had gotten a historically large number of non-Democrats to show up for a Democratic caucus.  As it is, I am less excited.

by Steve M 2008-01-03 05:04PM | 0 recs
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Where are you getting your independent figures?  Turnout was heavy.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-01-03 05:11PM | 0 recs
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I'm going by what Bill Schneider said on CNN.  We should really wait until the official numbers show up somewhere.

by Steve M 2008-01-03 05:12PM | 0 recs
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HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!!!!!!!

I AM BACK! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!

WHO WON TODAY?

by win 2008-01-03 04:52PM | 0 recs
Rudy is a Badass

anyone just see Guiliani on CNN?!

he seriously said - (paraphrase) "Yeah, nice job Mike, i really didn't try in Iowa so i don't care, lets talk in a month"

poll: Is McCain or Guiliani harder to beat ten months from now?

by leewesley 2008-01-03 04:53PM | 0 recs
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McCain by a landslide

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 04:54PM | 0 recs
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i agree, i am very scared of John McCain

by leewesley 2008-01-03 06:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Rudy is a Badass

likewise -- mainly because all the repugs that were disaffected by McCain would still feel that he should have beaten bush... then there are the Bush repugs that will vote repug no matter what, and then there are the indies that he attracts....

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 07:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Rudy is a Badass

and the fact that he actually has standards. (not that i agree with any of them)

but he has the credibility to diffuse anger about Iraq by playing the cultural cockiness we have for winning wars by saying we just didnt go hard enough in the beginning.

i feel McCain is the least likely to carry Bush Baggage if you will.

by leewesley 2008-01-03 07:29PM | 0 recs
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It looks like Edwards is 8 or 9 delegates up on Hillary. She's going to have a very difficult time passing him now. Hopefully Edwards will keep the lead and get the culinary endorsement in Nevada.

by Progressive America 2008-01-03 04:55PM | 0 recs
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I love primaries :)

by bruh21 2008-01-03 04:58PM | 0 recs
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hard to pass 8 or 9 delegates? lol

by MollieBradford 2008-01-03 05:08PM | 0 recs
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I left this site long ago, and I came initially to see the wailings and gnashings of teeth of astroturf supporters of Senator Clinton.

And yes, I'm shamelessly gloating like crazy now. Whatever happened to the politics of hope? IT WON.

Good luck to the Edwards supporters. I'm a fan of Obama, but I've always had a great deal of respect for the criticisms you make about him. Lately he's seemed to co-opt a bit more of Edwards' message, and I hope we can continue to see more of this.

by Zephyrus 2008-01-03 04:56PM | 0 recs
wow

aren't you a jerk?  Just because, let me predict that Obama, when he has to depend on only democrats will NOT win the nomination.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-03 05:10PM | 0 recs
Re: wow

Relax.  Show some solidarity.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-01-03 05:19PM | 0 recs
Obama Wins. Establishment Loses!


Obama Wins It


Hillary's "inevitability campaign" collapses



by DerekLarsson 2008-01-03 04:57PM | 0 recs
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ok gnite guys!

by sepulvedaj3 2008-01-03 05:08PM | 0 recs
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It looks like Biden is not going to overtake Richardson for distant 4th which will take him out of the debates.  I wonder if he's going to keep going.

by Piuma 2008-01-03 05:09PM | 0 recs
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My guess is no, he wiill not keep going.  I'm surprised though - beleived all along that Biden would take fourth.

by CLLGADEM 2008-01-03 05:14PM | 0 recs
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I obviously forgot how to spell when I wrote that reply.

by CLLGADEM 2008-01-03 05:18PM | 0 recs
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I am disappointed for Biden most of all.  He really deserved better.

Every four years there is one super-experienced elder statesman in the race who, for whatever reason, simply doesn't catch on.

by Steve M 2008-01-03 05:58PM | 0 recs
McCain now in third

For those who view voting like the Olympics, I suppose that matters.

by alydar 2008-01-03 05:21PM | 0 recs
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The most American. I love this. John still matters, Hill is done. John gets to debate Obama. America       is changing.

by inexile 2008-01-03 05:23PM | 0 recs
So thrilled...

And I'm not an Obama supporter.  I'm most elated that 70% of the people did not support Hillary.  So much for inevitability.  

If she finishes 3rd, even a close 3rd, she will be greatly damaged.  I suspect she will free-fall in NH.  She may have the $$, and we saw tonight that it didn't matter.

I'd like to dream that Edwards could do well there.  Perhaps he has a chance to do better in SC and NV.

Either way, I think we're on our way to avoiding the nomination of our most polarizing candidate.  A long way to go, yet the worst result she could have hoped for!

by passionateprogressive 2008-01-03 05:40PM | 0 recs
Huckabee

Very interesting that in his victory speech, he didn't used the word Christian, God, etc. (except for the obligatory 'God bless you' at the end)

He just gave a really really good speech.  The idea of not hating those in front of you but loving those behind you is a nice theme.  He would be tough in a debate.

by alydar 2008-01-03 05:51PM | 0 recs
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Good night to everyone, and thank you, Jonathan, for having this thread with the self-updating results.  It's much easier for those of us on dial-up.  The news sites were impossible for me.

by CLLGADEM 2008-01-03 06:02PM | 0 recs
Hello

My name is John Edwards and America is about to change.

by inexile 2008-01-03 06:39PM | 0 recs

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