More Libby Statements Late Night Open Thread

Rudy Giuliani released this statement on his website:

"After evaluating the facts, the President came to a reasonable decision and I believe the decision was correct."

And Fred Thompson's official statement is as follows:

"While for a long time I have urged a pardon for Scooter, I respect the president's decision. This will allow a good American, who has done a lot for his country, to resume his life."

Both of which lead nicely into this prediction from Craig Crawford on today's Hardball:

On the political front, this is going to be a huge battering ram for Democrats in 2008. I think this will be the Jack Abramoff lobbyist scandal of the 2008 campaign as Democrats rally their own activists and grassroots supporters.

Let's make sure of it.

Tags: Open Thread, Scooter Libby (all tags)



Re: More Libby Statements Late Night Open Thread

It's kind of interesting because Thompson's been somehow or other getting sold as the "outsider" in this electoral race, yet here he turns out to have deeper ties to the Bush administration establishment than practically anybody else running. Hm.

Now, given, Thompson's  spirited defense of Libby is probably just going to only deepen the love affair that the Real True Conservative core has been holding with him, but I can't help but wonder whether this incident has the potential to change perceptions of Thompson outside that 20% that approves of the commutation...

by mcc 2007-07-03 12:02AM | 0 recs
Former US Atty Rudy knows the guidelines

And he should be forced to defend his opinion on the basis of his knowledge and experience as a prosecutor.

Not that anyone from the MSM will do that.

by RT 2007-07-03 02:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Former US Atty Rudy knows the guidelines

I believe Thompson's also a former US attorney. That's definitely a worthwhile line of attack.

by Englishlefty 2007-07-03 07:23AM | 0 recs
Re: More Libby Statements Late Night Open Thread

We may only be 60% - those of us appalled at this travesty.  But I would posit that there are very few "soft" opponents of the Libby commutation - almost all of that 60% is going to be pissed, and very few of us will even consider voting for a jackass praising this perversion of basic justice as a good or reasonable idea.

It was a real gift that this happened during GOP primary season, where they will have to trip all over themselves to win the approval of the moonbats.

This morning was the first time that I thought even HRC would win the general.  Hell, Gravel or Kucinich would have a shot now!

by NC State Dem 2007-07-03 03:43AM | 0 recs
Re: More Libby Statements Late Night Open Thread

This is neither a travesty nor a perversion of justice.  Libby was a patsy from the start, and did not deserve what he got.  The perversion of justice is that Cheyney is not in jail.

by NJIndependent 2007-07-03 05:42AM | 0 recs
I wonder which Democrat could benefit least from the Libby pseudo pardon in a general election?
by TarHeel 2007-07-03 04:08AM | 0 recs
Re: hmmm

True - Marc Rich is the "gift that keeps on giving" from Bill to Hillary.

by NC State Dem 2007-07-03 04:17AM | 0 recs
Re: hmmm

Is it the Democrat whose husband pardoned Marc Rich?

by Sam I Am 2007-07-03 04:19AM | 0 recs
Re: More Libby Statements Late Night Open Thread

Someone on Atrios just reminded everyone however  that LIBBY was Marc Rich's lawyer -

And funny how when pardons get mentioned Marc Rich and Clinton is mentioned but oh my Casper Weinberger and Bush I - gee somehow that gets forgotten

by NYMARJ 2007-07-03 04:58AM | 0 recs
Re: More Libby Statements Late Night Open Thread

Caspar Weinberger and Bush # 1 are not relevant to the conversation, thats why they are not being mentioned.

by JDF 2007-07-03 06:37AM | 0 recs
Re: More Libby Statements Late Night Open Thread

Sure they are. It's the classic example of a president covering his own arse and completely abusing the powers of his office.

by Englishlefty 2007-07-03 07:24AM | 0 recs
Re: More Libby Statements Late Night Open Thread

Clinton, though.

Clinton's EXTREMELY relevant to a discussion of potential abuses of power by George W. Bush.


Well.. cuz... Clinton!!!

by mcc 2007-07-03 09:39AM | 0 recs
Re: More Libby Statements Late Night Open Thread

with "The Commuter" out of his brain on the 5:15 ...
the only way to hold anyone accountable is s/documents.htm
Every Dem should stand up and say enough..
Screw calling the your Rep...

Impeach Cheney for the Crimes of Iraq (not that Bush does not deserve it..but Cheney)

by DenverD 2007-07-03 06:08AM | 0 recs
Re: More Libby Statements Late Night Open Thread

Bush does deserve it, but Cheney would be a much easier sell I think; so lets get him.

by JDF 2007-07-03 06:39AM | 0 recs
He should pardon Abramoff as well..
Like Libby's, I'm sure that Jack's family is going through hell right now.
by soros 2007-07-03 07:10AM | 0 recs
Re: More Libby Statements Late Night Open Thread

Abramhoff has some legs, but by 2008 no one will care about Libby.  Dubya made an immoral but politically wise decision.  His poll ratings can't fall much more, the people who will like this are the wingnuts, who are mad about immigration, but he can get them back.  The vast majority of Americans who will get pissed off by this have completely given up on him anyway.

Guiliani, Thompson etc. made the wily choice to back this, too.  This helps them with their base, but isn't going to make a big difference in a general election.  Plame is an insider story, most of America never cared much about this anyway.

This is why Congress is important, but nothing beats getting the presidency back into Dem hands.  The pardon is outrageous, but Dubya and his crew won't suffer any significant consequences for it.  Everyone except us will have forgotten about it in two weeks.

by alhill 2007-07-03 08:26AM | 0 recs
If you out a CIA Agent you just might be a Traitor

and Bush gave Libby the Traitor a get out of jail free card.  I do mean Traitor and we should use that word to describe Libby's Crimes.

Put it the Public's Mind that Bush let a Traitor Go Free!!! If we are successful getting the Public on board that outing a CIA Agent is treason, then any Republican who supports Bush's letting Libby go free is toast.

by HCLiberal 2007-07-03 06:16PM | 0 recs


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