The Hill: McCain Approached Dems in 2001 About Leaving GOP Caucus

As if people still actually wondered if John McCain stood for anything besides his own ego and ambition, a new report from The Hill's managing editor Bob Cusack indicates that not only was John McCain interested in leaving the Senate Republican caucus in early 2001, a move that would have handed the chamber to the Democrats, but moreover his staff made the first move to the Democrats in a conversation that only ended when Vermont's Jim Jeffords eventually became an independent caucusing with the Democrats, which put the GOP in the minority in the chamber.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was close to leaving the Republican Party in 2001, weeks before then-Sen. Jim Jeffords (Vt.) famously announced his decision to become an Independent, according to former Democratic lawmakers who say they were involved in the discussions.

In interviews with The Hill this month, former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) and ex-Rep. Tom Downey (D-N.Y.) said there were nearly two months of talks with the maverick lawmaker following an approach by John Weaver, McCain's chief political strategist.

Democrats had contacted Jeffords and then-Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.) in the early months of 2001 about switching parties, but in McCain's case, they said, it was McCain's top strategist who came to them.

At the end of their March 31, 2001 lunch at a Chinese restaurant in Bethesda, Md., Downey said Weaver asked why Democrats hadn't asked McCain to switch parties.

Downey, a well-connected lobbyist, said he was stunned.

"You're really wondering?" Downey said he told Weaver. "What do you mean you're wondering?"

"Well, if the right people asked him," Weaver said, according to Downey, adding that he responded, "The calls will be made. Who do you want?" Weaver this week said he did have lunch with Downey that spring, pointing out that he and Downey "are very good friends."

McCain's press team is pushing back against this story -- and hard -- which is not in the least surprising because of McCain's already tenuous position among the GOP faithful in the race for the party's 2008 presidential nomination. Yet as Cusack notes, "McCain consistently shot down the rumors, though Weaver acknowledged this week that the senator did talk to Democrats about leaving the GOP" [emphasis added].

While this story, in and of itself, does not threaten to sink McCain's candidacy, it does underscore an extremely important point: John McCain is a hopelessly cynical politician willing to say or do just about anything if he believes it will advance his career. To take a prime example of this tendency, McCain only embraced the cause of campaign finance reform after he became caught up in the Keating Five fiasco, a scandal that cost several politicians their careers and nearly cost McCain his own. Yet these are far from the only examples of McCain's unscrupulousness. Just looking back through some of my posts in recent months (which don't even cover the period of time during which McCain came to George W. Bush's aid despite the fact that the two disagreed so strongly on so many issues), McCain has reversed his position on immigration reform, his recent hirings have included a lawbreaker and an employee of a man he called an agent of intolerance, and he has supported moves that would attempt to overturn Roe v. Wade, among many other things.

So with this new revelation, I continue to firmly stand by my previously expressed sentiment that "McCain has proven himself to not be a man of integrity or genuineness but instead just another calculating politician willing to sell out his beliefs in the hopes of winning an election" -- though would perhaps reformulate the second half of the statement about selling out beliefs because it is not entirely clear to me that the John McCain holds any convictions whatsoever.

Tags: 2008, John McCain, Republican Primaries (all tags)

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27 Comments

well, McCain's toast..

time to work on Giuliani

by TarHeel 2007-03-28 04:46PM | 0 recs
let's trade Lieberman

for McCain

by TarHeel 2007-03-28 04:46PM | 0 recs
Re: let's trade Lieberman

  If you trade scurvy for rickets, do you really come out ahead?
by Master Jack 2007-03-28 06:49PM | 0 recs
Re: let's trade Lieberman

Hey, be thankful that we don't have Ricketts in the Senate.

by Dave Sund 2007-03-28 06:58PM | 0 recs
Ouch

 Man, he's awful. Good thing he lost.

 As to the general theme of this thread, why would McCain WANT to become a Democrat anyway? Ideologically he's as far right as it gets... there's virtually NO common ground between him and Democratic values.

 So he was doing it not because of principle (unlike, say, Jeffords), but because he wanted to get revenge on the Republicans for screwing him. (Which they certainly did, but there are better ways to handle it.)

 McCain is about as presidential as a lamppost.

 

by Master Jack 2007-03-28 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: well, McCain's toast..

agreed.  Giuliani is the GOP frontrunner, but all i hear about him here is very temperate criticism, compared with what we lob at McCain, Romney, and even Hillary.  i think we'd do well to turn our guns to rudy.

by lorax 2007-03-28 06:37PM | 0 recs
Hello coffin. . .

Meet nail.  So much for St. McCain.

by Jim Treglio 2007-03-28 05:14PM | 0 recs
Re: The Hill: McCain Approached Dems in 2001 About

Wow. He's finished.

by Dave Sund 2007-03-28 05:19PM | 0 recs
Re: The Hill: McCain Approached Dems in 2001 About

   That's all for McCain.  It's too bad really, I was hoping they would nominate him.

by cilerder86 2007-03-28 05:20PM | 0 recs
Re: The Hill: McCain Approached Dems in 2001 About

The only way this could get better is if McCain responds by saying that Hillary approached him about becoming a Republican.

by Bob Brigham 2007-03-28 05:26PM | 0 recs
Re: The Hill: McCain Approached Dems in 2001 About

Or that Hillary said that he swung by Obama's madrassa in Indonesia on his way back from Vietnam.

by Valatan 2007-03-28 05:50PM | 0 recs
Newt

It seems to me that if Newt stepped in he'd have a good shot at the nomination -- not a sure thing by any means, but a good shot.

by John DE 2007-03-28 05:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Newt

Yeah, I think so too.  He seems to be pretty close to exactly what the GOP rank and file want.  He would also be exactly what Dems want to run against.  Him entering the race would be just about perfect in so many ways.  

by Valatan 2007-03-28 05:49PM | 0 recs
Re: The Hill: McCain Approached Dems in 2001 About

Door, meet John McCain.

He is finished.

by PsiFighter37 2007-03-28 05:56PM | 0 recs
Obama versus McCain today...

Relating to McCain...interesting back and forth between Obama and McCain today.

Obama:

"John McCain may believe that it's an option for us to maintain an indefinite occupation of Iraq, regardless what happens in terms of politics within Iraq, so that we're every year sending $100 billion over to Iraq, so that every year we're seeing hundreds or thousands of young Americans dying, so that we continue to see a deterioration of America's standing in the world," the Democratic presidential candidate told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "I don't think that serves the best interests of the United States, and I don't think it will ultimately result if the kind of stabilization in Iraq that's necessary."

McCain:

`We are now executing a new counterinsurgent strategy. We have a new general in command who believes in it,'' McCain said during a campaign swing in Florida.

President Bush recently put Gen. David Petraeus in charge of his strategy for sending 21,500 troops and thousands of additional military personnel to Iraq in an effort to quell the violence and allow the government to gain its footing.

``If Senator Obama could take a few minutes out of his day to examine the early progress made by General Petraeus, I think he would realize the status quo is changing,'' McCain said.

Interesting...

by rashomon 2007-03-28 06:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama versus McCain today...

So McCain is still in denial about Michael Ware's smackdown it seems.

by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle 2007-03-28 06:31PM | 0 recs
Re: The Hill: McCain Approached Dems in 2001

Wait, wait. Let me guess. September 11th changed everything.

by Steambomb 2007-03-28 06:40PM | 0 recs
Re: The Hill: McCain Approached Dems in 2001 About

That is the end for McCain.

That story must have been known around DC. Does anyone have any theories on who got the story out?

by robliberal 2007-03-28 06:40PM | 0 recs
Mixed Feelings

I'm not sure this is a cause for celebration. If I'd been treated like McCain was treated by Rove in 2000, I'd be looking for the quickest path to a rematch...which this probably was at the time he pursued it. Could he have been a better candidate than Kerry in 2004?

But like a good authoritarian, McCain always seems to end up doing what he thinks he's supposed to do. And be it fighting in Vietnam or refusing early release or adopting an orphan or hugging Bush or sucking up to the fundamentalists, he always seems to get screwed.

McCain saluted like a good soldier and will end up a footnote quickly forgotten by history. Shrub never did what he was supposed to do and will be studied for decades as one of the country's most notorious presidents.

Even though I know it's a myth, I'd still like to believe in a straight-talking politician who says what he believes and doesn't care what anyone thinks. But then he wouldn't be a politician and couldn't get elected.

Makes me think a little of Bob Dole in '88. Imagine how different the world would be if Dole had gotten elected in '88 or McCain had been elected in 2000. Bad for progressives, but it might have been less cathartic for the planet.

by ProgressiveChristian 2007-03-28 07:32PM | 0 recs
Here's an interesting question for The Hill

Why are they printing old news? This was discussed a LOT in 2001 when the Washington Post did an in-depth story about it. That original story is in an archive, but Josh Marshall discussed aspects of it here. It was gone into in Paul Alexander's biography of McCain, Man of the People, and the January 2007 Vanity Fair article had this to say in it:

A year later, with bad feeling still so high that strategist John Weaver had been virtually blackballed from working in Republican politics, Weaver went so far as to sound out Democratic Senate leaders about the possibility of having McCain caucus with them. This would have put the Senate, then divided 50-50, into Democratic control. Aides to two senior Senate Democrats say it was never clear how serious McCain himself was about the proposal, and any possibility that it might actually happen was short-circuited when another Republican, James Jeffords, of Vermont, made the move first, in 2001.

So ... why is The Hill going into this now? Why are they acting like this is a new revelation? My guess: some GOP rival put them up to it to deep-six McCain with this old "new" news. But why would The Hill go along with it? Is their institutional memory so short they don't remember it and they run out and report it as new, getting a couple of quotes from Democrats to dress it up?

Why are they allowing themselves to be used? THAT is an interesting question. Just look at the reaction here -- it's the end of McCain!!!! (Same reaction at Daily Kos, by the way.) Well ... uh ... if it didn't end him in 2001, why would it end him now?

I find this whole thing very odd.

by SusanG 2007-03-28 08:55PM | 0 recs
Question for the Hill

Why are they printing old news? This was discussed a LOT in 2001 when the Washington Post did an in-depth story about it. That original story is in an archive, but Josh Marshall discussed aspects of it here. It was gone into in Paul Alexander's biography of McCain, Man of the People, and the January 2007 Vanity Fair article had this to say in it:

A year later, with bad feeling still so high that strategist John Weaver had been virtually blackballed from working in Republican politics, Weaver went so far as to sound out Democratic Senate leaders about the possibility of having McCain caucus with them. This would have put the Senate, then divided 50-50, into Democratic control. Aides to two senior Senate Democrats say it was never clear how serious McCain himself was about the proposal, and any possibility that it might actually happen was short-circuited when another Republican, James Jeffords, of Vermont, made the move first, in 2001.

So ... why is The Hill going into this now? Why are they acting like this is a new revelation? My guess: some GOP rival put them up to it to deep-six McCain with this old "new" news. But why would The Hill go along with it? Is their institutional memory so short they don't remember it and they run out and report it as new, getting a couple of quotes from Democrats to dress it up?

Why are they allowing themselves to be used? THAT is an interesting question. Just look at the reaction here -- it's the end of McCain!!!! (Same reaction at Daily Kos, by the way.) Well ... uh ... if it didn't end him in 2001, why would it end him now?

I find this whole thing very odd.

by SusanG 2007-03-28 08:58PM | 0 recs
A couple of reasons...
  1. He wasn't running for President in 2001.
  2. The atmosphere was a lot different in 2001 for McCain, and I don't think most people have heard this story.
by Dave Sund 2007-03-28 09:37PM | 0 recs
Re: A couple of reasons...

I had never heard the story myself. I do remember when there were discussions that McCain might be offered the VP slot on the ticket with Kerry.

by robliberal 2007-03-28 10:27PM | 0 recs
Jeffords

Why would Jeffords' switch short circuit the move? I'd think that McCain would be in an even stronger position to join with minority party after Jeffords and probably get some plumb committee assignments to boot.

by 54cermak 2007-03-29 05:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Jeffords

That should read "majority".

by 54cermak 2007-03-29 05:48AM | 0 recs
Re: The Hill: McCain Approached Dems in 2001 About

This was also written about as it happened:

Roll Call

May 24, 2001 Thursday

Jeffords Shakes Up the Senate;
Democrats Approached McCain, Chafee as Well

By Mark Preston and John Bresnahan

Mounting an all-out blitz to save their fragile Senate majority,
Congressional Republicans and White House officials tried frantically to
persuade Sen. Jim Jeffords (Vt.) Wednesday to remain a member of the
Grand Old Party.
Senate Democrats, meanwhile, vowed to reach out to other disgruntled
Republicans to persuade them to abandon the GOP, with sources confirming
to Roll Call that RepublicanSens. John McCain (Ariz.) and Lincoln Chafee
(R.I.)have been approached by Democrats in an effort to get them to
switch parties.

Democratic sources said Chafee was offered the chairmanship of the
Environment and Public Works Committee, which is now expected to go to
Jeffords instead. Both Chafee and McCain rebuffed the Democrats'
attempts at persuasion.

"We have got to strike while the iron is hot," one senior Democratic
aide said of the effort to recruit Chafee and McCain in addition to
Jeffords.
Adding a second Republican to their party would give Democrats an
insurance policy in case one of their own, such as Sen. Zell Miller
(Ga.), decided to switch to the GOP.

With Jeffords expected to renounce his political ties to the GOP at an
event in Vermont today, Republicans were bracing for the worst last
night. A Jeffords defection would force Republicans to relinquish their
majority status and hand over the committee gavels to the Democrats for
the first time since the start of the 104th Congress.

Republican leaders held out slim hope that pleas by several GOP
moderates, committee chairmen and President Bush would be enough to
persuade Jeffords to scuttle his plan to change his political
affiliation to Independent or Democrat.

Although Democrats generally tried not to get too giddy during
yesterday's drama, some lawmakers boasted that Bush's ability to marshal
his policy agenda through Congress would be dealt a severe blow -
especially his lifetime appointments to the federal bench - if Jeffords
bolts.

"There would be a fundamental shift, and obviously they can say goodbye
to any right- wing guy on the [Supreme] Court," said Sen. Joseph Biden
(Del.), a high-ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee.

Another likely casualty would be Ted Olson, the solicitor general
nominee. "Olson would be practicing law and making a lot of money,"
Biden predicted.

Having been persuaded to postpone his decision for 24 hours by a group
of moderate Republicans and GOP committee chairmen, Jeffords is expected
to announce his political intentions today in Vermont.

The delay allowed GOP leaders to at least temporarily salvage Bush's
$1.35 trillion tax bill. After Jeffords made it clear that he would not
announce his decision until the legislation passed, Democrats dropped
scores of amendments that had delayed the process. It's unclear,
however, whether a Democratic majority will block the tax cut at a later
stage in the process.

"This is sort of a political earthquake," said Sen. Richard Shelby
(R-Ala.), who jumped from the Democratic Party to the GOP after the 1994
election.

The Democratic outreach to Republicans has been going on for several
months as the minority quietly worked to wrest back control of the
Senate, several sources told Roll Call.

It's not clear what Democrats offered McCain, but one well-placed source
suggested that the Senator might have been able to retain his
chairmanship on the Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee if he
gave into the Democrats' pleas.

Despite the fact that Chafee and McCain rebuffed the offers, this has
not deterred some Democrats, who say they plan to continue to reach out
to a handful of Republicans. A Democratic source said the hope is that a
Jeffords defection will help make it easier for another moderate to
leave the party.

"I think they are hoping it will clear the way to make it a more
comfortable jump," one Democratic source said. "Hopefully Chafee
realizes the water is warm on this side."

The sources said Minority Leader Thomas Daschle (S.D.) dispatched
Democratic Whip Harry Reid (Nev.) as an envoy to coax these Republicans
to the other side. Reid was more than willing to give up his opportunity
to chair the Environment and Public Works Committee to catapult
Democrats into the majority, sources said.

Reid would not acknowledge his involvement in the recruitment efforts,
choosing only to say, "If I did, I wouldn't admit it to you."

Chafee too would not admit that an offer had been made to him, but he
didn't deny it either.

"Entreaties have been made on various occasions, and especially since
the last election with 50-50," Chafee said. "They have intensified since
the 50-50."

Asked if he would ever consider leaving the GOP, Chafee said it was
"unlikely." However, he did allow that he would think about it if he
thought the "well-being of the country and my state" were at risk.

A spokeswoman for McCain would not confirm the discussions.

"Senator McCain has said repeatedly he has no intention of leaving the
Republican Party," said Nancy Ives, McCain's spokeswoman. "And Senator
McCain doesn't comment on private conversations he may or may not have
had with other Senators."

Meanwhile, Republicans have employed a full-court press of their own in
an attempt to persuade Miller to switch parties.

Insiders said the White House was active in the campaign to entice
Miller. "They invited him to come down to the White House and talk, and
Miller turned them down," a well-informed source confirmed.

Miller released a statement yesterday announcing his intention to stay a
Democrat.

"While I am certain in the future that I will often vote with President
Bush and the Republicans on many issues, I will not switch to the
Republican Party and have no need to proclaim myself an Independent,"
read the statement.

"But a word of warning to my fellow Democrats at this time: What is
sorely needed around here is much more getting along and much less
getting even. The poisonous partisanship that has pervaded this place on
both sides of the aisle must end."

Some Republicans believe that Jeffords' probable decision to leave the
GOP is a stunning personal rebuke to Majority Leader Trent Lott (Miss.),
a close personal friend of Jeffords. In a late effort to keep Jeffords
in the fold, Lott offered him a leadership post in which he would serve
as a liason to other moderates.

So far, however, GOP insiders don't expect anyone to challenge Lott for
the Minority Leader post.

Republican Whip Don Nickles (Okla.), often mentioned as a potential
challenger to the Mississippi Republican, downplayed any speculation
that he would throw his hat into the ring.

"I don't think that's going to be the case with anybody," Nickles said.

Aides to GOP Sens. Bill Frist (Tenn.) and Fred Thompson (Tenn.) also
denied reports that their bosses might run for the Minority Leader post.

"Senator Frist has no plans to challenge Lott," said Margaret Camp,
Frist's spokeswoman.

"The Senator has no plans to do that," added Harvey Valentine, a top
Thompson aide.

A senior Senate GOP leadership staffer said that while "there's some
unhappiness" with Lott, there is no precedent for Republicans to replace
their leader midsession, meaning Republicans might wait until the 108th
Congress to shake up the leadership.

But top Senate aides predict there will be events in coming days,
including press conferences and public appearances, designed to
demonstrate support for Lott.

"You'll see the troops rallying behind Lott," this Senate GOP aide
insisted.

Lott, though, may have to undergo a period of finger-pointing with the
White House over who is to blame for Jeffords' decision.

At one point yesterday there were rumblings that White House officials
were going to try to blame Lott for the debate over Jeffords, but Lott's
office quickly called senior Bush officials to quash that effort,
according to Senate GOP insiders.

Several House moderates reached out to Jeffords in the past two days in
a last-ditch attempt to keep him in the party. Prominent centrist Rep.
Christopher Shays (R-Conn.) talked to Jeffords yesterday morning, but he
worried that he was too late to make a difference.

By the end of the day, Republican leaders were getting into the act.

In a meeting with reporters, GOP Conference Chairman J.C. Watts (Okla.)
held up a sign that pleaded DON'T GO J.J.!

Rep. Tom Reynolds (N.Y.), a member of the House GOP Whip operation, said
Jeffords' jump would have "more consequences of any party switch in
history."

Shays charged that Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), the chairman of the
National Republican Senatorial Committee's re-election efforts last
year, did not do a good job protecting more moderate Members, resulting
in the precarious 50-50 Senate.

"I don't think they get the message that they need to be a more
inclusive group and start to take on tough issues" that are important to
moderates, Shays said. "They weren't listening to voters to communicate
from the center and work as a team."

Shays and other GOP House moderates, such as New York Rep. Sherwood
Boehlert, gave their leadership high marks for inclusiveness and
teamwork.

"We're enjoying a good relationship, especially with Denny Hastert,"
Boehlert explained. "He is a perfect leader for the House right now
because he knows how to listen."

Boehlert said Jeffords is sending the wrong message and predicted that
no moderate Republicans in the House would follow their Senate
colleague's lead. "He's saying I'd rather switch than fight," Boehlert
said.

Conservative House Republicans were already expressing alarm about their
ability to move the key parts of the President's agenda and hold the
line on spending with a Senate controlled by Democrats.

"Some of us strong Republicans are going to have to work a lot harder to
make sure spending doesn't get out of control," said Rep. Duke
Cunningham (Calif.), a member of the Appropriations panel. "It's already
difficult, and it's going to get a lot more difficult."

But some Republicans were already finding a silver lining to having a
Democratic-controlled Senate.

"Just like when [former President] Clinton was here, we'll have an
enemy," said a GOP leadership aide. "We can work as hard as we can, and
if we can't get it done, it's the Senate Democrats fault."

Paul Kane and Susan Crabtree contributed to this report.

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