Keep Piling On The Pressure

Your pressure is working. You guys are unbelievable! Consider the following:
  • Already, more than 1,0201,1501,2701,525 people have sent emails to the news organizations who produced shoddy, stenographed stories on the Edwards bloggers yesterday.

  • Yesterday, you sent emails to Nedra Pickler of the AP asking her to point out Donahue's history of racially intolerant statements. Not only did she comply, in her new story, she included the exact same Donahue quote you asked her to include. You pressure works.

  • Salon is now reporting that it was pressure from the liberal blogosphere that allowed Marcotte and McEwan to keep their jobs. I don't know if this is true, but it could be taken as a very strong indication that your pressure is working. Either way, it gives us lots of cred.

  • Media Matters and have engaged this fight as well. You are not alone in applying pressure. It is coming from all regions of the new progressive infrastructure.

  • William Donahue is scared to death of you. He just promised a nationwide campaign to fight the success you have made possible. Ha! Bring it on. It is about time this wingnut is exposed, and the media shamed for treating him like a mainstream Catholic figure in the first place.
This is awesome. You can still help by recommending this action over at Digg, and by joining in the fun and writing an email to news outlets at the BlogPac site. If we are going to hit 1,000, why not shoot for 1,500?

This is lightning in a bottle, and a potentially pivotal turning point in turning back the right-wing smear machine. Be a part of it.

Tags: Activism, Blogosphere, Media, William Donahue (all tags)



Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

William Donahue is scared to death of you. He just promised a nationwide campaign to fight the success you have made possible. Ha! Bring it on.

Correction: Ha! Bring it on, fat man.

by fafnir 2007-02-08 01:03PM | 0 recs
Donohue meets Larry Flynt

OK, let's start with this YouTube gem from Donohue.  From the tube:

"Just imagine if a white guy is performing oral sex on a statue of Martin Luther King with an erection. Do you need to see it to know it's ugly?"
But THIS PIOUS MAN would never play to racial or sexual orientation bigotries, no?

Is he a better pornographer than Ken Starr, or a worse one?

HAT TIP to Digby.

by Bruce Godfrey 2007-02-08 01:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Donohue meets Larry Flynt

i'm trying to figure that one out...why the hell would anyone suck off a statue?  does this donahue guy have any idea what oral sex is?

it's like saying "imagine performing an abortion on a tree.  you don't have to see it to know it's ugly."

it ain't ugly, bill, it's so irrelevant as to be laughable.

by skippy 2007-02-08 04:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Donohue meets Larry Flynt

Donohue speaks for himself both literally and figuratively.

by Bruce Godfrey 2007-02-08 04:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

I agree with you generally. But, I don't think this is just about this person. This is about the whole right wing swiftboatin' machine. He maybe the example that can start things rolling, but he shouldn't be the last. The only way they will start to play fair is if they realize that not playing fair has consequences.

by bruh21 2007-02-08 01:09PM | 0 recs


The blogpac tool is very easy to use, and a great addition. You are doing fantastic work here. Thank you.

A couple of ideas:

1) The blogpac tool might be even more useful if 1) you strongly encourage people to personalize the letter somewhere on the page, and 2) if you add an option that separate out the addresses of the news organizations so people can send individualized responses to each institution. As it is, I think the letters might come off as a bit generic. Links could also be provided to each offending story so we can easily see how to target each letter. I know its more programing, and perhaps not possible, but it might be worth thinking about.

2) I think the next step in this campaign needs to be to humiliate one of the reporters who filed one of the offending articles. I know this part isn't pleasant... but there needs to be consequences for publishing this kind of crap. Reporters are used to being able to write anything they want about us and not suffering for it. That needs to change. A concerted effort to humiliate one of the worst offenders would go a long way to doing that.

Thanks again.

by Joe Gabriel 2007-02-08 01:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

It's our turn now, friends.  Edwards did the right thing by keeping the bloggers, but some of us ask too much when we demand that he personally take on Donahue and the other hatemongers.  A candidate can't win by getting into that kind of pissing match with an outsider.  It would be stupid for the same reason that it was stupid for George Allen to let himself get baited by Mike Stark.

It's up to us to take matters from here and it looks like we are more than up to the challenge.

by Steve M 2007-02-08 01:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

That is why it is encumbent on type organizations to take on Donahue on a consistent basis.  Donahue has to be constantly exposed for the jack ass he is.

by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle 2007-02-08 01:30PM | 0 recs
The Pressure

The GOP doesn't even bother challenging Democrats on policy positions and substantive issues; instead they put all their time, energy, and money into dirty tricks and 'gotcha' politics.  They win the occasional cheap victory, but they ain't winning the war for the hearts and minds of the electorate.

by global yokel 2007-02-08 01:26PM | 0 recs
Re: The Pressure

if they argue in the issues, they lose. so they go with what they got left.

by bruh21 2007-02-08 01:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

I agree with Joe Gabriel about avoiding astroturf letters, which become a petition of sorts rather than individual letters.
I wrote to the New York Times first thing this morning:
Re itics/07edwards.html?_r=5&oref=slogi n&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&or ef=slogin&oref=login

What a silly article you've published about the Edwards campaign and his
blogger hires.
    The Catholic League is not the Knights of Columbus or any other
legitimate Catholic organization. It's the creation of Bill Donohue, a
would-be Catholic version of Pat Robertson; talk shows put him on TV to be
boorish and offensive and thus create controversy and a phony aura of
excitement. His appearances are embarrassing to most Catholics and rude or
bizarre to everyone else.
    Why would John Edwards, the New York Times, or anyone else care what
Bill Donohue has to say about this topic or any other?

by joyful alternative 2007-02-08 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

luckily chris has provided just a template, which he and i encourage everyone customize to their own words.

astroturf can backfire.  write your own letter!  but use the blogpac page!

by skippy 2007-02-08 04:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

I realize this is playing tough, but someone should go through all of Rightwing Nuthouse's posts looking for "hate speech" then post them in the comments in Terry Moran's blog over at ABC.  Rightwing Nuthouse is run by Terry Moran's brother, Rick.  

by Pogues Fan 2007-02-08 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Theme of 2008

I got your back.

by bruh21 2007-02-08 01:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

I was with you until the "bring it on" comment.  That kinda language scares me now.

Just kidding, I'm on board.  Wrote the letter this afternoon.

by John Nicosia 2007-02-08 02:07PM | 0 recs
Anyone having email problems?

I tried my standard college .edu address and my AOL address and then my gMail address.

Yeah... i really want to help out... any help?

by MrMacMan 2007-02-08 02:19PM | 0 recs

Salon is now reporting that it was pressure from the liberal blogosphere that allowed Marcotte and McEwan to keep their jobs. I don't know if this is true

Did, in fact, the bloggers ever get fired, even temporarily? Salon reported they were fired yesterday, Salon reported they were rehired today. But I never saw any sources independently corroborate this-- only people citing Salon.

Were the bloggers in fact fired and then rehired, or did Salon mess up in the story yesterday and then just assume they were rehired today to cover themselves?

by Silent sound 2007-02-08 02:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Question

Ditto.  I'm not likely to trust Salon on this story.

by Disputo 2007-02-08 03:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

Oh Gawd. You've got a ratings system too? And somebody thought that served what purpose, exactly?

by Daphne 2007-02-08 02:23PM | 0 recs
Salon is getting on my nerves

Just because a statment didn't come out and there never was a confirmation from the campaign in the first place that anyone was fired.

A whole lot of mess got slung around, a lot of nerves were on end, and for what, a premature article in salon.

I just wonder who really had a hand in the Salon article in the first place? Any links to any other campaigns than John Edwards?

by dk2 2007-02-08 02:31PM | 0 recs
I hope the whole party is watching

This is how bridges are built. Edwards made the first sacrifice for the netroots, now we're putting out for him. The sooner the powers that be realize that we are on their side, and that we compliment each other (by doing things it is poltically incorrect for a campaign to do, like sending thousands of emails to media outlets) when we cooperate.

by msnook 2007-02-08 02:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Theme of 2008

Count me in, except Hillary, she's just asking for it.

by Shaun Appleby 2007-02-08 02:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure
"Bring it on!" as a phrase is worrisome.
 It's a very big fight with the now-entrenched ABC-Disney supported media bias and smear machine.  Lately, they look to me like a more formidable enemy than the Republicans.
Even when there is no there there, they persist.
They have a miniscule audience, but have continued undaunted to swing their power.
We must take on the foe, but it is a big war, not a small battle.
They have been running things for a while, and after "Swiftboat" worked, as before, they have no shame.
The interesting thing is the degree to which they are off public opinion.
The people are more moral, less corrupt by far than the noise machine, as the last election and all of the polls show.
We definitely need to take them on--big time.
  If we let them continue to dominate there will be no democracy left.
We need a lot of smart calculation though to make it work.  A surge will not go too far.
We all know that how the candidates answer back will be key.
Kerry and his consultants failed. Clinton kept ahead of them because he was personally smarter and gifted at comeback and charm.  The next candidate will have to beat them back with all of Clinton's cleverness in his own terms in order to win.  So Edwards has his first test.  But Edwards or whoever the candidate is will be hit with everything they've got and we will have to fight it well or we will all go down with him.
by syolles 2007-02-08 02:52PM | 0 recs

is mighty. act up tactics, sense of mission, pride, determination, joining good leaders, getting good results...just hate "bring it on." seems like similar misuse of "let's roll." and nohow is this fun to me. still...terra y liberdad!

by greenbird 2007-02-08 02:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

Credit where it's due (and why no one should listen to me.)

Yesterday I was convinced this was a disaster for the Edward's campaign no matter how they played it because they hadn't responded immediately.

It looks like taking the high road with their statement actually worked brilliantly, as evidenced by Donahue's hilarious rant.

All in all, well played Edward's campaign, well played.

by Parker Lewis 2007-02-08 03:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

 OK, all. John Edwards has taken a leap of faith, bucked the consultocracy, and cast his lot with the grassroots and netroots. There's no backing down now -- or, more accurately, backing down now will look REALLY bad at every possible level.

  Edwards is about to get the full onslaught of the noise machine. This isn't an easy thing for ANY public figure to go through.

 We need to have his back. Our credibility is at stake here as much as anyone's.

by Master Jack 2007-02-08 03:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

I told the Edwards campaign that I could not support him if they fired the bolggers

Guess I'm an Edwards supporter now

by Organic George 2007-02-08 03:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

Would keeping the story alive be easier if you spelled Odonohue's name correctly?  I'm thinking about Google linking, etc.  Just a thought.

by ChrisNoSt 2007-02-08 03:18PM | 0 recs
Work ethic

...Nedra Pickler...included the exact same Donahue quote you asked her to include...

While I can see that today's AP story is more balanced that yesterday's I wonder if Ms. Pickler researched this quote or just published what liberal bloggers emailed to her?  

I can't shake my suspicion that these "reporters"  are just putting their imprimaturs on pre-digested information that others send to them.

In other words are they reporters as they claim or stenographers as they appear to be?

by clio 2007-02-08 03:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Work ethic

I can't shake my suspicion that these "reporters"  are just putting their imprimaturs on pre-digested information that others send to them.

No shit, Sherlock. Think of it this way:

Reporters aren't lazy, but they have bouts of laziness. You've probably turned in work that's a bit sloppy at times. Journalists are no different: they work to tight deadlines, especially in 24-hour cable news, and there's copy to be filed.

I've done a bit of journalism in my time. I know how easy it is to go to a quotemill (think: Marshall Wittman) or reprint a source verbatim because it gets the story done. Look up 'Rob Enderle' and see how one man has made a name for himself supplying bullshit wisdom to technology journalists.

Donohue is basically running a one-man operation with an email server, fax machine and direct mail. He's got about the same tools as most bloggers. But he's also based in the middle of New York City, no more than a dozen blocks away from the studios of the three big cable news outlets.

So if you're a media booker or a producer and want someone for a segment that's vaguely Catholic-related?

You can get someone who's a reputable Catholic, but is based, say, in Boston or Philly or Chicago. That means getting them to New York, or arranging a studio to do a live linkup. It all costs money and takes time and effort.

Or you can call Bill Donohue. He always answers the phone. Send a cab, and he'll be there in half an hour. And he's always 'good' on the air.

He's the archetypal media whore.

by etagloh 2007-02-08 07:46PM | 0 recs
Remember this...

 If John Edwards stands firm and doesn't cave to the noise machine, the Republicans will run a massive smear campaign against him, slander him at every opportunity, accuse him of anti-Catholicism, picket his rallies, and make up weekly lurid stories about him.

 But if John Edwards backs down, the Republicans will run a massive smear campaign against him, slander him at every opportunity, accuse him of anti-Catholicism, picket his rallies, and make up weekly lurid stories about him.

by Master Jack 2007-02-08 03:27PM | 0 recs
Knowing The Enemy Was Never Easier

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.

Sun-Tzu - The Art of War 400BC

by Shaun Appleby 2007-02-08 03:42PM | 0 recs
Time to Move on to the Next Fight

...the Pelosi Airplane Non-Story. While she's doing a good job, we can all help her out.

by MNPundit 2007-02-08 03:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Move on to the Next Fight

I think the White House has already got her covered, according to a recent AP story :

Democrat Nancy Pelosi received some rare help Thursday from the White House against a barrage of Republican criticism over how the new House speaker intends to get back home.


The House sergeant-at-arms, who helps oversee security for the House, suggested that flying nonstop would be the safest way home for Pelosi, next after the vice president in the line of presidential succession.


To presidential spokesman Tony Snow, "This is a silly story and I think it's been unfair to the speaker."


Snow called Pelosi's office to make sure she knew the White House supported her use of a military plane.

He also distanced the White House from the GOP's take on the matter. The Republican National Committee said Pelosi was on a "power trip." Snow, asked whether the RNC is free to go after Pelosi on its own, said, "Well, apparently they did this time."

by Shaun Appleby 2007-02-08 03:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Move on to the Next Fight

Yeah I heard that... what a weird planet. Why are they supporting her? Do they realize she owns them for the next 2 years?

by MNPundit 2007-02-08 08:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Move on to the Next Fight

That's why, she does own them, for the moment.  It's not just Warner-Levin, either, Oversight is mining endless campaign fodder.

But the really interesting thing is the RNC comment by Snow, did you note it.  The President's spokesman ruefully admitting that the president has apparently totally lost control of his own party.  Moments in history.  You gotta' love it.

by Shaun Appleby 2007-02-08 10:01PM | 0 recs
Preemptive Strikes...

Time to start writing the very same Catholic newspapers that Donohoe is supposedly going to target.  Maybe even put some ads in.  Church bulletins are great, too...  get the word out about the truth.



by lordmikethegreat 2007-02-08 03:42PM | 0 recs
Catholic League

Why isn't it considered anti-Protestant bigotry to form an organization called the Catholic League after the organization dominated by the Guise family, rabid and violent partisans in the sixteenth century Wars of Religion in France? Why does the Catholic Encylopedia claim that the League was the cradle of French democracy while the Protestants were aristocratic and absolutist?  The latter is surely a partisan interpretation.

I'm not a French historian or a Christian and both sides in the Wars of Religion had their share of despicable murderous fanatics.  But my final question is why does the Wikipedia entry on the Catholic League claim that it is a "civil rights organization"?

by TomSkidmore 2007-02-08 04:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure
As you all know, I'm not an Edwards supporter but, I admire his courage to stick with his employees under great pressure.  That shows character.
I, by the way, also admire he is trying to expose the blight of the poor and disadvantaged in an era where millionaires are more worried about raking more and more in for themselves and to hell with everyone else.  The greed and selfishness of this age is so revolting and to see someone who is more interested in putting his time and money into people and the country give one heart.
I also beleive that maybe there is someone behind Donohue urging him on to destroy Edwards.  it would not hurt if the blogs tried to snoop around a bit and see what the real agenda may be.
by vwcat 2007-02-08 05:45PM | 0 recs
Me too.

I am Edwards fan too, but I will also support any Democrat whom is attacked by the right wing smear machine.

Their time is over, this is our time.

by HCLiberal 2007-02-08 07:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

Now's the time to place the focus on Donohue, but in a smart way.

What, exactly, is the Catholic League? How many people work for it? (According to the tax records, just four people.) How many 'members' does it really have? How many of the 60 million or so American Catholics does he actually speak for?

It's time to start seeking out quotes from genuine Catholic leaders -- presidents of universities, the press offices of bishops and archbishops, etc -- and asking them whether they agree with each of Bill Donohue's bigoted statements.

This should be an easy one to crack: the Catholic Church is nothing if not a hierarchical organisation: there's an official pecking order, and Donohue isn't part of it. Too many Catholics have ignored him, as an embarassment; if they're asked, on the record, to back him or disown him, then you're going to see the hierarchy cut him loose. And when that happens, he's off the speed-dial and out of the MSM Rolodex.

Donohue survives because the establishment pretends that he's not there. Let's begin a big push -- particularly Catholic bloggers and activists -- to make that establishment disavow his bigotry.

Let's see who the first journalist is to call up an archbishop and ask if Donohue's right to say  childhood victims of priest sex abuse were complicit.

by etagloh 2007-02-08 07:35PM | 0 recs
The Times turn

Today's story from John Border has nothing in it about Donohue background, history or motivation.  It adds balance by picking up the McCain Hynes story, but it's basically a blogger hit piece.

Byron Calme needs to get some letters....

by jayackroyd 2007-02-08 09:39PM | 0 recs
Re: The Times turn

by jayackroyd 2007-02-09 12:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Keep Piling On The Pressure

On Friday I called the Catholic League (published phone# of 212-371-3191) and had a very short and somewhat confrontational conversation with the gentleman answering the phone.  I quoted some of Donohue's statements back to him and asked him to defend the statements, but he replied by questioning the "skewness" of Media Matters and the veracity of the quotes.  I asked if he personally agreed with the quotes now (in which case it would not matter if Donohue did or did not ever say them himself in the past) but the conversation ended shortly after that.  These people should be confronted about what their front man is saying.


by Brian63 2007-02-12 06:36AM | 0 recs


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