Time For Hastert To Resign

(Via America Blog). This video from ABC News tonight is devastating. Among other things, it reveals that the Republican leadership knew about Foley for at least five years, and Hastert has now asked the FBI to investigate the Republican House leadership as a result:



This is just unbelievable. Among other things, there is simply no way that we lose FL-16 now. Everything is going wrong for Republicans. We were already in a position to win the elections last week, but now we have the NIE, Woodward's book, the new Abramoff information--this is amazing.

Returning to this issue--Hastert and other members of the Republican leadership let teenagers be exposed to this guy for five years. At the very least, they need to resign their leadership positions. They should strongly consider resigning from Congress altogether. Haster's opponent in this election is John Laesch.

Tags: Dennis Hastert, House 2006, IL-14, John Laesch, Republicans (all tags)

Comments

43 Comments

Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

This is amazing - everyone who knew needs to resign.

We need an outside special counsel to make sure the investigation isn't a whitewash.

by SteveWFP 2006-10-01 04:10PM | 0 recs
Wendy Wilde in MN-03 made that call earlier this

evening. We've diaried here (7:37PM) and Daily Kos and Booman Tribune

by northcountry 2006-10-01 04:18PM | 0 recs
Oh yea, but that won't happen under the current

Republican led Congress, SteveWFP!

by momoaizo 2006-10-01 04:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh yea, but that won't happen under the curren

No doubt it won't happen if the Republicans have their way.

But Hastert and Reynolds are going to try and say they're coming clean after years of covering this up, which is why Hastert is calling for a Department of Justice investigation.  We need to make it clear that without an outside special counsel any investigation will be a whitewash.

by SteveWFP 2006-10-01 04:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

Iknow the democrats have never really done an Oct Surprise- but when they do them damnnn- they do them right.

by bruh21 2006-10-01 04:20PM | 0 recs
The timing of the revelation is by the GOP

The wonderful October timing cannot be credited to, or blaimed on, the Democrats.

It was the Republicans who covered up Foley's conduct, as long as the possible could.

by xtrarich 2006-10-01 05:25PM | 0 recs
Re: The timing of the revelation is by the GOP

i know- i was joking.

by bruh21 2006-10-01 06:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

The Republicans might as well forfeit the election if Hastert resigns.  

by Bobby McGee 2006-10-01 04:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

I think this is a 'damned if they do, damned if they don't' situation.

The GOP really screwed themselves over good this time around.

by PsiFighter37 2006-10-01 05:09PM | 0 recs
They're trying to punt past Nov. 8

Ongoing investigation, yada, yada, yada.

The crucial distinction is between the email communication, which is arguably harmless, although exhibiting poor judgement, and the instant messages which are scabrous and probably kiddie porn in their own right if not interstate solicitation and god knows how many other federal sex crimes.

Hastert claims that the leadership knew about the emails but not the IMs. These are seriously gross and should be sent to every parent in America with the instructions "do not read if you are easily shocked." (a guarantee that they will be read). Example: Foley, like a trial lawyer, interrogates one teenager extensively about his masturbation practices, asking him at one point, "where do you unload?"

Nice, Congressman. Real nice.

My question: How many people knew Foley's screen name and how did they know?

Question #2: Why do the other media have such shitty sources? ABC is making a monkey out of everybody.

by stevehigh 2006-10-01 05:01PM | 0 recs
Ask Every Rep To Call For Hastert's Resignation

Every Dem running in every race should call on their opponent to demand Hastert's resignation.

This is the most straightforward, and entirely above-board way to nationalize the elections, just as they should be, since the GOP now runs Congress like a national parliament.

BTW, as I now read this scandal, it seems marginally possible that Hastert didn't know about the emails, because he knew about Foley 5 years ago or more, and had explicit instructions out to insulate him from any further information.  Which is about as damning as anything he could have possibly done.

From now onward, all the drama about the last 11 months should be viewed in that context--with the assumption that all the major actors knew what was up with Foley, and were trying to limit their own exposure from the get-go.  And the real primary focus should be on the years in which Foley's behavior has been known and covered up.

by Paul Rosenberg 2006-10-01 05:08PM | 0 recs
Wendy Wilde MN-03 already has

The press release us here:   Wendy Wilde calls for Speaker Hastert's Resignation

Elect Mom"

by northcountry 2006-10-01 05:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Hastert & Not to Get Our Hopes Up

We're not supposed to get our hopes up. Some folks
love to descend on optimistic posters to denounce
them for being overoptimistic.

Yeah, right. Bring 'em on. I'm HUGELY optimistic.

Bowers says, "simply no way that we lose FL-16 now."

Well, is that assessment cautious enough?

Starting in Florida, how can this not be a huge boost
to Davis, the Dem nominee, in his race for Governor?
Voters in FL-16 will look at their ballots and see in the
Republican column for U.S. Senator, Katharine Harris,
and for the U.S. House, Mark Foley. Just the thought
of it will keep some voters at home. Others will vote
and they will vote against everyone in the same party
with Mark Foley.

Not to overlook the fact that Chris, the (R) candidate
for Governor is, like Foley, an unmarried man, and,
uh, I'm not for gay-baiting, but I'm just saying this
is not a good year to be an unmarried (R) candidate
in Florida.

And other Florida (R) House members? There's enough
blame and suspicion to go around here. Voters will
be asking, "You didn't know what your colleague was
up to? Or you did?" And I don't think they have a good
answer. So two or three Florida seats just got a lot closer,
along with many others all across the country.

Meanwhile, here and at Kos and other sites, and in our
mailboxes, we've received end-of-quarter-deadline
appeals for contributions.

Well, you know, the (R)s sent out appeals just like
our team has done. Wonder what they raised in
the last two days before the midnight deadline?
I mean, party loyalists will watch the TV news about
a middle-aged (R) Congressman chasing teen-aged
boys through the halls of Congress, and they will
sign a big check to the RNC? Maybe, but maybe NOT.
I'd love to see how the (R)s online fundraising has
gone vs their targets over the past few days -- and
the next week, too.

We'll have to wait until Nov to know how many votes
were swung by this latest Republican sex scandal,
but I think we'll see a difference in the funds raised
as soon as the Sep 30 figures are released. The (R)
figures will be, uh, less than they expected, and the
(D) figures will look great.

And tomorrow morning, every K St lobbyist and his
corporate client will have to figure that odds of the
(D)s winning control of Congress took a big jump.
They'd better write another check to the Dems, and
a fat one, or surely be out in the cold after the Nov
returns come in.

My own seat of the pants hunch, unknowable and
unprovable, but a swing of at least $5 million  in
campaign contributions in favor of the Democrats.
Pour that money into a few more districts and see
some longshots become contenders. It's more,
much more, than simply FL-16.

by Woody 2006-10-01 05:10PM | 0 recs
Hastert To Resign

The extraordinary thing is that it may be the Foley email scandal that cripples the GOP in the coming elections, rather than the torture legislation that they just passed this week.

What a sick country this is at the moment...

by global yokel 2006-10-01 05:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign
"We now we have the NIE, Woodward's book, the new Abramoff information--this is amazing." -------------------- Actually, I'm worried that there is now too much information. There isn't time for the American people to soak up all the corruption and incompetence. I'm afraid it won't be till December for it all to sink in. And with all the pro Republican pundits working overtime, it may never happen.
by prius04 2006-10-01 05:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

I strongly disagree that people will not understand or forget about this in 5 weeks, that's really about the perfect amount of time.

Sure, there's a republican news dump going on which is sure to continue, but huge scandal after huge scandal can't possibly be to their advantage.  Newsrooms around the country struggle to figure out which scandal to lead with.  The narrative of "Republicans in disarray" will continue for weeks.

Also, Hastert and Reynolds (the head of the NRCC) aren't working much on the election at this point, with damage control sucking up most of their time.

IMHO, 90% sounds about right now for dems taking the house.  It's almost a shoo-in.

My only fear is Bush bombing Iran as a way of controlling conversation in the country, never mind the long-term implications.  Short term, it will make oil and gas prices spike, so it's not a winner for the GOP, but Bush is controlling/illogical enough that he'd do it just because he can.  He scares me.

by aip 2006-10-01 06:11PM | 0 recs
Republicans and genitalia attraction

What's with this Republican White House and Congress and their infatuation with teenage and young adults genitalia?

The President's torture bill is predicated upon nudity and sexual assault on those being tortured.

Rep. Geoff Davis (R-KY 4-CD) sponsored a strip search bill of public school students. (Davis' own children are home schooled.) Kentucky's Republican Lieutenant Governor Steve Pence has jumped on the strip search bandwagon of Rep. Davis.

Why all this interest in stripping and searching the young? What's with the Republicans and their zeal for the genitalia of the young?

The President recently asked for and got $14 million for urine testing of public school students. That's more exposure of the genitalia of the young.

Rep Foley's penchant for teen genitalia is well documented. Now we've got word that the Republican coverup may have been going on for five years with House Speaker Dennis Hastert's knowledge. Is Hastert the mastermind of the coverup?

by Hempy 2006-10-01 05:32PM | 0 recs
It's amazing how bad they fucked themselves.

Wow. So much for the republican October surprise.

by delmoi 2006-10-01 06:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

People who don't understand lobbying rules and campaign finance limits understand this:

1)  Everybody connected Republican on Capitol Hill knew Foley was a chicken hawk ass pirate for 5 years.

2)  They had paper evidence of his inappropriate relationship with 10th grade pages a year ago, but kept him in the Republican leadership.

3)  When caught, the Republicans leaders [sic] began to cover ass and blame each other.

Chickenhawk asspirate, Known, Passing the Buck.  All they need is a picture of Dennis Hastert in a bishop's clerical garb.

Hell, maybe I will make one.

by Bruce Godfrey 2006-10-01 06:05PM | 0 recs
10th Grader

They had paper evidence of his inappropriate relationship with 10th grade pages a year ago, but kept him in the Republican leadership.

Seeing "10th Grader" in print gives more impact to just what the Republican leaders winked and nodded at. Everyone knows 16 year olds are sexual creatures (wannabe's at least) but very few Americans condone 10th graders having sex.

The Republican leadership of the U.S. House of Representatives abetted sexual exploitation of 10th grade boys by other Republican Congressman. It's truly reprehensible.

by Curt Matlock 2006-10-01 07:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

All I can say is Wow.  Totally unbelievable.  I have found this completely disgraceful and disturbing in so many ways.  

This is not going away and is in fact getting worse.  The defeaning silence from the usual defenders tells you they don't know what to do or say.  I cannot see any circumstances under which the Rs keep the House now that this has broken.  

by John Mills 2006-10-01 06:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

I feel like. . .we're gloating about this.  I know I have been.  It's a great windfall for Democrats, from one perspective, but it's also a mtter of several teenage boys having been subject to predation by a man who purported to protect them.  This isn't a cause for celebration.  If anything, we should be weeping that this went as long as it did.

We need to be careful that we don't start to celebrate these things.  Yes, this only highlights the deep-seated corruption at the heart of the Republican leadership, but at its core this is a story about multiple adolescents being, at best, put in very uncomfortable situations by a man who held power over them.

by Neogaidaros 2006-10-01 06:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

Great point.  I have listed a few constructive things that people can do in a DailyKos diary.  Would cross post here but it would detour the thread in an "off" way.

by Bruce Godfrey 2006-10-01 08:12PM | 0 recs
Time For Laesch to go on the big board?
What do you think? He's down by 22 according to this poll on Laesch's web site. (Hastert 55, Laesch 22, other/none 12) How red is his district? Do we have a chance here?
by Copley 2006-10-01 06:59PM | 0 recs
IL-14: Republican leaning, but kinda purple

IL-14 (represented by Hastert) is Republican, but like most (non-Southern) suburban districts, it has become a bit purplish in recent years. Kerry took 45%, while the Democratic congressional nominee only managed 31% - not exactly a toss-up district, but 45% is a good base for a Democrat to start with. (Although I suspect some of that 45% are Republican leaning moderates who couldn't stomach Bush on issues like choice, Iraq, etc, but who aren't necessarily a core Democratic constituency - yet(

From what I can see from a distance, Laesch has been running a very aggressive (albeit underfunded) campaign. I suspect that (prior to these events) he was probably going to get around 40% or so (notably above previous Hastert opponents).

Hopefully these events will give Laesch the added boast to make it truly competitive -- depending on how the news plays out for Hastert in the coming days, it may be that the PTA moms and dads of the Chicago burbs just can't bring themselves to vote for  a former high school wrestling coach he didn't do anything about a sexual predator when it was waved right in front of him.  Even if many of those voters aren't ready to vote Democratic, certainly it is going to be damn hard for Republicans in this district to have their base excited about turning out.

Defeating a sitting speaker is tough... but if this story really sticks to Hastert the way he should, there is no question that he is vulnerable... Tom Foley was defeated in 94 despite home district pride in having a speaker, so it can be done (of course in that election, the Repugs launched a queer baiting whispering campaign against Tom Foley -- wouldn't it be ironic if a sex scandal for a Republican Foley would be what brings down a Republican speaker?)

Bottom line -- this is still a tough district, but it may now be in play. Now is the time to get some money to Laesch so he can make this thing truly competitive.

(Remember James Carville's advice: "When your opponent is drowning, through him an anchor")

by terje 2006-10-01 09:28PM | 0 recs
Is Hulking House Honcho Hastert a Homo?

Gay Groping Grappler a Secret Sissy?

You heard it here first, on the QT, confidential, and very Hush-Hush!

Maybe the old wrestling coach was up to some other sports in the high school locker room showers. You know what I mean?

That was the rumor spread about the good Foley (Speaker Tom), lo these 12 years ago.

What was it Sam Rayburn said? What goes around comes around?

Yeah, that was it.

by stevehigh 2006-10-01 07:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Is Hulking House Honcho Hastert a Homo?

stevehigh, I know you're being light about this, but I'm so uncomfortable with conflating "gay" and "pedophile," even in jest.

Of course, the issue is not whether Foley, or Hastert, are gay (which would make them hypocrites), it's whether they are pedophiles (which would make them felons).

I understand that you're mocking the bigots who think like idiots, so my beef isn't really with you -- for the most part, the left is doing a pretty good job saying "pedophile" when they mean "pedophile," and not "gay."  Let's just make sure it stays that way ...

Thanks, all.

by Ms Bluezone 2006-10-02 02:39AM | 0 recs
An important point

...and not just on its educational merits.

The issue is felony kiddie porn and child molesting. It could have been your son or daughter, Mr. and Mrs. and America.

This story doesn't smell any sweeter if it turns out that Foley ALSO likes to molest little girls, now does it?

So, I agree, it's important to keep the kiddie porn/child endangerment angle front and center from a win-the-election standpoint if no other.

by stevehigh 2006-10-02 06:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

You need to pay attention to how this is playing in the mainstream media as opposed to the blogsphere. Here it's plainly obvious that the Republicans launched an immediate cover-up. Numerous blogs noted that Hastert's office was calling this whole scandal a Democratic invention until the whole thing exploded on Thursday. But, of course he knew a year ago about Foley, because Rep. King told him.

But here's how the same story's playing in the Chicago Tribute for instance. Two lead articles in this morning's paper: 1.GOP Defends Handling of Scandal

and just for a topper:

2. Read Dennis Hastert's Letter.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/natio nworld/chi-061001hastert-letter,1,734040 6.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Yup. That would be the same letter that has already been exposed as a tissue of lies, when it was blatantly contradicted on key points by other Republicans even before the ink was dry.

But, hey! The Republican Congressional Leader said it so that's good enough for us at the Tribune!

Now tonight we learn that the entire debate so far is all B.S. to begin with. Pages were being warned 5 years ago about Foley, so basically it was common knowledge back as far as 2001.

We're just waiting for confirmation that the entire Republican leadership knew all about Foley and were not a bit surprised when this scandal broke. They just tried desperately to cover everything up in the usual manner. The only difference is that this time it failed miserably.

So, now they're like cockroaches when the kitchen light comes on scrambling around desperately to find cover.

If we had a functioning media in this country that held Republicans accountable in the same way they hammered on Clinton the election would be a total wipeout where about 1/2 the Republicans would lose their seats.

But the vast majority of voters will probably never hear most of the pertinent details about this scandal, such as the fact that it's being ongoing for about 5 years for instance, because the media they listen to won't bother to tell them.

I believe that after about a week this story will disappear from the mainstream media leaving blogsphere to howl in impotent rage amd demand investigations that never happen. While the TV news moves on to the next Lacy Peterson type story.

Perhaps I'm just cynical, but it's been happening for such a long time that it'd be foolish not to expect the same thing now.

by Cugel 2006-10-01 07:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign
"I believe that after about a week this story will disappear from the mainstream media leaving blogsphere to howl in impotent rage amd demand investigations that never happen. While the TV news moves on to the next Lacy Peterson type story."

The reason it won't go away in a week is because this is a Lacy Peterson type story. This isn't Plame, where only those of us addicted to polical news can follow the plot. This is a made-for-TV scandal. A congessman pens graphic notes to numerous underage boys, and takes them out to dinner while his colleagues--I'm sorry, the leadership--hushes it all up. Because what you're thinking, and what I'm thinking, and you can be damn sure every reporter in the country is thinking is this: "what if he did more than just write notes?" And they're gonna dig and dig. Sex sells. Always has, always will.

by Copley 2006-10-01 07:38PM | 0 recs
You just know he did

item: Foley was more than just a fantasist. Rumors on this board says he hit on male staffers at random. Adult men, yeah, but decades younger than he. You think he drew a line in the sand between 19 and 16? I don't.

item: His interrogations on the IM messages about sex sound like a real pro. Reminds me of a traveling salesman who never goes back to his hotel room alone--only the victims are not lonely cocktail waitresses or barflies but little kids on the Internet.

item: Do you give birthday presents to people you only know by screen name? I say no. If Foley horn-dogged the kid via the Internet and then met up with him, I think that meets the test to earn him the mandatory ten years of joint time per the Foley bill. And if the judge is really pissed, he'll make him do it all at the women's facility in La Tuna, Texas where he can't play drop the soap in the showers.

item: Congressman Foley Boned me up the Ass. Do you there'd be some royalties in it for the first kid who writes a book like that? So maybe the title needs some work, but you get the idea.

by stevehigh 2006-10-01 07:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

I'm with you.  We tend to get into a blogtopic bubble.  This story definitely has longer legs than any other GOP scandal but the way the corporate media spins it will matter most.  Bounce over to Media Matters and you'll see that they're weathervane, the Right Wing Noise Machine, doing their level best to keep the lid on.

by eRobin 2006-10-02 05:51AM | 0 recs
The issue turns on the IMs

The emails themselves are comparatively harmless. The Reps are looking to build a firewall between the emails and the IMs.

If others knew that Foley wrote those ABC-quoted IMs, they are potential criminally liable for conniving in serious perv.

A lot of the media are dancing around for fear of libel. They don't have ABC's sources on the IMs, and if it turns out Foley didn't really say that shit, well fuck us for saying he did.

BTW, the poster above who recommends the phrase "tenth-graders" to characterize the victims is onto something. They could just as easily have been someone's daughter as their son, and this broads the scope of the scandal. The issue is kiddie porn and child abuse, not homosexuality.

by stevehigh 2006-10-01 07:31PM | 0 recs
Re: The issue turns on the IMs
"The Reps are looking to build a firewall between the emails and the IMs."

Well, good luck with that. I'd bet that 80% of the voting-age pupolation of this country couldn't tell you the difference between an e-mail and an IM.

by Copley 2006-10-01 07:42PM | 0 recs
Re: The issue turns on the IMs

They can try all they want to build a firewall between the "over-friendly" or "naughty" emails and the perverse IMs, but even those emails are gasp-inducing to parents, teachers, coaches, clergy, and anyone who is in any way responsible for the welfare of children. Those emails are classic, disturbing red-flags, and every good parent in America would be furious at anyone who sent emails like that to their child -- or anyone who knew that someone sent them to their child but did nothing about it. There is no shade of lipstick with which to dress up this pig.

by jamfan 2006-10-02 08:12AM | 0 recs
Yeah, but he could lie his way out of the emails

Not easily, but he could have stayed in Congress.

"I'm really sorry I offended the parents. I see now it was wrong, but I don't have any children of my own.  I really liked your son--in an innocent way--but I see how it could have been misinterpreted. I have spoken to my religious advisor and prayed for guidance about this. I've asked the parents to forgive me for any pain I have caused. It was a terrible mistake, but it was an innocent mistake because I just wanted to do something nice for this boy, to give him a nice present because he was such a good page here in Washington. As I've said, I like women, but I've never married, so I have no children. As a result, I feel especially protective and close to the children who come to Washington, and that's why I wanted to keep this boy's picture on my desk. I know now it seems inappropriate, but I meant no harm, I did not harm, and I know the voters will understand that."

Or some such bullshit.

What you can't lie your way out of is masturbation questions like, "Where do you unload?"

by stevehigh 2006-10-02 08:26AM | 0 recs
A better name for that so far...

anonymous page's book might be:

Hot Sweaty Nights with Republican Rep.

Or:

Hot. House. HiJinks!

Or:

Garglin' a Fundie!

Or:

Foley Gave Me the Feeling.

by Pericles 2006-10-01 09:08PM | 0 recs
Support the challengers

REPUBLICANS PROTECTED A CHILD PREDATOR

1. Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La, NO Democratic challenger.

2. John Shimkus, R- Illinois's 19th, oversight for the House Page Program.

challenger, Dan Stover
 http://www.stoverforcongress.us/

3. Majority LeaderJohn Boehner (R-Ohio, 8th)

challenger:  Morton Meier
http://www.victimsofjohnboehner.org/

4. Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.)

challenger:  John Leasch
http://www.john06.com/home

5. National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Tom Reynolds (N.Y. 26th)

challenger: Jack Davis
http://www.jackdavis.org/new/

by mrobinsong 2006-10-01 10:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign
Everyone needs to mention John Shimkus (IL-19) whenever they discuss Hastert in conection to the Foley scandal. Shimkus is just as guilty, if not more, than Hastert(IL-14). Shimkus was in charge of the page program. He interviewed Foley in 2005. His solution was to tell Foley to stop doing it. Shimkus has a strong, but ignored by the DNC & DCCC and underfunded, progressive challenger, Danny Stover (www.stoverforcongress.us). Whenever John Laesch (Hastert's challenger)is mentioned, Stover needs to be mentioned as well. Laesch and Stover are giving a joint press conference in Chicago today. Hastert=Shimkus .... Laesch=Stover
repeat over and over again throughout all blogs and there can be 2 Democratic gains in the House that a week ago was just a fantasy of Laesch and Stover die hard supporters.  
by akdude6016 2006-10-02 08:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

Two quick points.

A) How incovenient at this moment for Speaker Hastert that his established tag line bio has been "genial, former small-town high school wrestling coach".

B) If the Dems do take acheive a slim majority in BOTH houses, could you expect any party defections from the remaining Republican members?  Hadn't heard anything about it.  

by cargocult 2006-10-02 08:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

The House leadership knew about Foley's emails for five years! He should have been forced to resign years ago. We have seen the lack of accountability from the GOP since 2000. It would the celebration of the year if Hastert loses in November. He's too self centered to resign.  

by BlueCheese 2006-10-02 09:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Time For Hastert To Resign

It is time to use part of this for a new ad

List the problems Republicans have cause

Loss of Jobs
The War in Iraq
Lack of Port Security
Tax breaks to the Rich
Oil secret deals of Chaney

Etc.

especially ending with

Now the Republican leadership belated removed (Foley's name plate being remove)a sexual preditor

Isn't it time we remove them all from leadership in Congress.
(Flash Hastert and other name plates with adaptation per state)

It is time to vote for a new Democratic Team

(show it in all 50 states with as many Democratic candidates that can make the group photo)

by K Robert Schmitt 2006-10-02 08:20PM | 0 recs
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