Giuliani Continues Rightward Tack for 2008

As has been reported elsewhere repeatedly, Rudy Giuliani has endorsed extreme Christian Rightist Charlie Winburn for Mayor of Cincinnati.

Republican mayoral candidate Charlie Winburn has been promising to do for Cincinnati what former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani did for his city.

In a visit to Cincinnati on Wednesday, Giuliani said Winburn is the guy to do it.

"I'm really impressed with Mr. Winburn," Giuliani said.

One wonders if it's Winburn's theories of governance such as this that so impress Rudy:

We Christians must clean up politics. It is our job to elect only born-again believers to public office. If office holders aren't Christian and refuse to obey the laws of God, we must work hard, under the law, to unseat them."

While a powerful bloc of the Republican base may think that it's their "job to elect only born-again believers," that's certainly not consistent with Rudy's history in politics. One wonders if Winburn would have supported Giuliani's candidacy for Mayor of New York. First of all, as a Roman Catholic, Rudy doesn't meet Winburn's most important born-again criteria. But some Catholic politicians like Rick Santorum certainly hew to the Christian Right's political line, so one can imagine Winburn overlooking the distinction.

Can endorsing a raft of far right candidates around the country help Giuliani erase his record of social liberalism in the eyes of the Winburn set? On the issues most important to them, probably not. In 1998, Giuliani signed into law one of the nation's first domestic partnership laws. In 1999, on CNN's 'Inside Politics,' Giuliani declared, "I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights." Those would seem to be definite sticking points.

In order to have a shot at winning the GOP nomination, this is exactly the kind of personal hypocrisy he'll need to engage in. Rather than engaging in debate about his differences with his party, Giuliani will suck up to any and every extremist candidate he can, trying to beef up his right wing credentials. Post-Bush, I'm starting to think that the Republican Party just might be willing to give him a pass if they think he can win. But this kind of flip-flopping will likely wreck his chances with moderates if he makes it to the general election.

Tags: 2008, General 2008, Republicans, Rudy Giuliani (all tags)

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Any way?
Is there any way that Republicans would nominate a social liberal like Guiliani? I really cant imagine it happening. I know he has polled very well, but come closer to primary time, GOP voters may not choose a wingnut like Brownback, but at the very least they will want someone with solid socially conservative credentials. The day a pro-choicer wins the Republican nomination for President is the day hell freezes over. While he may be pandering to the right now, having said things like "I am pro-choice and I am pro-gay rights" on the record, his primary opponents will beat him to deal with it.
by AC4508 2005-09-08 04:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Any way?
The last time the GOP nominated a social liberal was Gerald Ford in 1976. He won the nomination because he already had the job.

This was also the last election where the Democrat was more socially conservative than the Republican. (Carter was a moderate Democrat, Ford a surprisingly liberal Republican) This made for a rather odd electoral map.

by wayward 2005-09-09 07:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Any way?
Ford was also arguably the most pro-choice President since Roe v. Wade.

Ford vetoed the Hyde Amendment, which banned Federal funding of nearly all abortions. Congress overrode his veto. Carter supported this ban and the Carter Justice Department defended court challenges to it.

So a pro-choice candidate could win the GOP nomination. However, Ford became President through a very unlikely series of events.

Of course, if Cheney and Bush both resign in disgrace, all bets are off.

by wayward 2005-09-09 07:46PM | 0 recs
The only point I disagree with...
Is the flip flopping... It will only have an effect if we as Dems hammer him for it and fight for the seat.  Gore and Kerry failed to do this and we are in Year 5 of Hell.
by yitbos96bb 2005-09-08 06:05PM | 0 recs
Mr. Guiliani's adulterous affair
Remember when Mr. Guiliani was having an affair while he was mayor of NY?  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/06/21/politics/main512992.shtml
What is it with these GOP guys (Newt Gingrich) and their affairs and then they say they are concerned about Christian values?  Hypocrites!
by Marie Smith 2005-09-08 06:46PM | 0 recs
My take on GOP 08
Big question is, will there be a single  anointed front runner?  If so, this guy wins.   Looks like Allen at this point.  Would be Romney if he were Christian.

Does the GOP have the stomach for an internal fight?  Giuliani wins only if the fundies split, and he peels some away while cleaning up among moderates.   This is also generally true of McCain and Hagel (assuming they aren't anointed - yeah, right)

To avoid this, I can't see the party not congealing around an anointee.   I think Allen makes sense; I think a dark horse, if that horse captures fundie hearts, could roar up out of nowhere and win, as Repubs flock to the winner on 'electability.'    Roy Moore?   Huckabee?  Somebody like that.    This is if Allen falls on his face and Romney freaks people out with his religion.

When you get into state by state it gets complicated.   So will this be the first time in ages the GOP nomination is really contested and extends deep into the primary season?

by Andmoreagain 2005-09-09 09:07AM | 0 recs
Re: My take on GOP 08
"Big question is, will there be a single  anointed front runner?  If so, this guy wins.   Looks like Allen at this point.  Would be Romney if he were Christian."
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Mitt Romney is a Mormon, as in a member of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints."  Sounds pretty Christian to me.

Some members of other denominations might be wary of voting for a Mormon, but at least in the western US, the Mormon church is fairly large and fairly mainstream, and the members tend to be fairly conservative.

by Lex 2005-09-09 12:09PM | 0 recs
Re: My take on GOP 08
Mormons consider themselves Christians.
Mormons do not consider other Christians to be "real" Christians.
Most other Christians do not consider Mormons to be "real" Christians.

Mormon theology is radically different from traditional Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant theology. However, most Mormons are quite socially conservative. A conservative Protestant or Catholic may have more in common with a Mormon than with a liberal member of his own denomination.

by wayward 2005-09-09 07:35PM | 0 recs
Giuliana - Katrina
The fact that Giuliani wasn't appointed to lead the Katrina recovery when Brownie was pushed aside pretty clearly shows he isn't in the good graces of the Bush White House.

If they wanted to jump start his chances for the Presidency there would not have been a better way than putting him front and center as a savior helping to fix the Katrina mess.  Guiliani's name had floated around as a possibility but to actually appoint him would have only happened if power brokers within the party wanted him to be the front-runner. They don't so Bush didn't.

by Curt Matlock 2005-09-10 06:33AM | 0 recs
guiliani run for presidency
  1. pre 9/11 Rudy polled in the mid 40's so he was not a popular mayor
  2. social liberal
  3. openly committed adultery when he was mayor
Having said that I do believe that Republicans have a selective memory. When i mention this to my republican friends, they tell me look at what he did for ny after 9/11. When i press them for specifics they really cant come up with any.
 
by gartie 2005-09-10 08:26AM | 0 recs
He had
a lot of great photo ops, and he owned a company that got contracts for anthrax cleanup. What more could Reeps want in a candidate?
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