Ukrainian Election Reversed

In the new vote, Yushchenko emerges victorious:The opposition leader Viktor A. Yushchenko was headed for victory today in a riveting presidential race that was marked by intrigue, charges of poisoning, fervent street demonstrations and widespread abuses of state power.

With 98.36 percent of the votes from Sunday's election counted, Mr. Yushchenko was leading Prime Minister Viktor F. Yanukovich by 52.29 percent to 43.92 percent, according to election officials.

A final count is expected to be issued later today, the Central Election Commission said.

Under his leadership, Ukraine will move toward the EU, and away from Russia. Also, Ukraine will remain a divided nation to a degree that makes our red state-blue state conflict seem utterly trivial. Some of the Russian speaking, eastern provinces will probably seek autonomy or even secession.

Tags: Foreign Elections (all tags)



Exit Polls show larger margin than vote totals...
The vote totals show it 53 to 44, not 56 to 41...
was their fraud again? or does some-one need to teach these people how to do a proper exit poll?
by Zee2 2004-12-27 10:52AM | 0 recs
I notice the deep concern expressed by the Bush administration for the sanctity of democracy in the Ukraine.  If only they were so concerned about democracy here on our shores....
by global yokel 2004-12-27 10:54AM | 0 recs
don't be so sure, chris
ukraine splitting up?  makes our red-blue divide look like child's play?  

what do we americans really know about ukraine as a whole or it's people?  nothing except that which can be read online, i imagine.

anyone here have friends from ukraine?  anybody here have family there?  anyone on this board ever travelled to ukraine or studied it extensively?

is that crickets i hear?

anyway, the point i'm trying to make is that none of us know shit about what will happen in ukraine.  and statements like "Ukraine will remain a divided nation to a degree that makes our red state-blue state conflict seem utterly trivial"... well, chris, that's prejudging an entire nation of which you (and most of us) are largely ignorant.  

now now, you know i'm not calling you ignorant.  i'm just saying that it's silly for any of us to pretend that we have a clue what we're talking about in regards to this very fascinating situation.

AAMOF, one of my good friends grew up in ukraine - the east province of donetsk to be exact - and he's given me an earfull regarding the situation.  if you're interested in an alternative (pro russian) point of view, or if you're interested in hearing what someone who's actually from ukraine has to say about this, click here.

no, i'm not blogwhoring, i'm just trying to let you know that the story we are hearing right now is largely one-sided.  most media reports that we have access to are pro-western, and while i'm no fan of putin, there is a large part of this story that's being ignored by the blogosphere.  

do you realise that there have been just as many pro-yanukovych protesters on the streets as there have been members of the orange brigade?  funny that they don't get the same media attention.  also, how many of us understand the basis for ukraine's east-west divide?  

anyway, i could go on about this for hours, and i will eventually do a series of posts based on the information that's being relayed to me... but for now chris, just don't assume we know anything about ukraine.

by annatopia 2004-12-27 11:48AM | 0 recs
I have friends from Ukraina
Before they election they thought that both guys were bad because of their history of criminality and corruption. They always explained the candidates and their choices as between Europe and Russia.

The media coverage was pretty much right on the money. Putin messed up royally because he put his lack of democratic instincts on full display. Russia is just another country, even with all those nukes they'll never use. Europe is ascendent... whither America? We will see.

by Paul Goodman 2004-12-27 04:22PM | 0 recs
Re: I have friends from Ukraina
now that's what i'm talking about - getting info from people who actually have a real sense of what's going on.

i do agree that the media coverage has been pretty good, if not completely lopsided.  like i said, how many people are aware that there are just as many pro-russian peeps on the streets?  

by annatopia 2004-12-28 04:39AM | 0 recs
Part of the thing with the media coverage is...
...that the captial, Kiev, is in the pro-Yushchenko part of the country.  Lazy foreign reporters probably didn't actually venture into the countryside.  Therefore, they probably saw mostly pro-Yushchenko protests.

Just a guess.

by Geotpf 2004-12-28 02:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Part of the thing with the media coverage is..
that's probably a good guess.  but i will say for the record that kiev is actually in the mixed part of ukraine.  while the majority of people are pro-yuschenko, a significant minority (maybe 45%) are "russian".
by annatopia 2004-12-29 05:04AM | 0 recs


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